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Dire Human posted:I've been around long enough that the "omg ded game" poo poo has popped up after every major change, and whatever hero launched after the Blizzard restructuring announcement is going to be nitpicked to loving death as """proof""" that the devs are hacks and HotS is finally finished and everyone should abandon ship etc etc etc Ignoring the fact that Rich never says anything close to what you've been quoting him on, please realize that this dude dedicated years of his life to this game and is probably the last people who wants to see it die. Also realize that its never been about one thing or one event that is triggering all the doomsaying. It's been years of frustrating and questionable decisions that got the game to where it is today.
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So now that game ded we should just get a bundle of 10 Rock n' Roll Racing heroes to turn the early game soaking rotations into laps
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Jan 4, 2019 18:58
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I’ll admit that I was in a bad mood this morning, I retract my statement until I can better articulate why Imperius Discourse is bugging me.
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Jan 4, 2019 19:21
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More like Limperius, am I right?
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Jan 4, 2019 20:50
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Hots isn't dead It's just slowly bleeding to death in an alley
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Jan 4, 2019 21:09
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Deeply intrigued by a hypothetical hero made exclusively with reused assets and animations. Wonder william the hero, perhaps?
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Jan 4, 2019 22:04
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Im_Special posted:Don't know who this Rich guy is, but I agree with all his points. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8diqAEeZ5E&t=3s I started watching but couldn't finish. He doesn't like Imperius' wings? Who cares?
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Jan 4, 2019 23:49
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Toady posted:I started watching but couldn't finish. He doesn't like Imperius' wings? Who cares? If you had finished watching the video, you would've seen that the second half or so goes into detail about the failings of HOTS in general (primarily lack of purchasing power, but also things like the lack of an official API), most of which he and other professional players have been requesting for several years.
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Jan 5, 2019 01:11
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Kith posted:If you had finished watching the video, you would've seen that the second half or so goes into detail about the failings of HOTS in general (primarily lack of purchasing power, but also things like the lack of an official API), most of which he and other professional players have been requesting for several years. I started reading this, but couldn't finish, what do you mean "if you had"?
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Jan 5, 2019 01:20
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Former number one hots pro now forced to pander for reddit upvotes
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Jan 5, 2019 01:48
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Im_Special posted:I started reading this, but couldn't finish, what do you mean "if you had"? I started typing a response to this but couldn't finish, wh
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Jan 5, 2019 02:35
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Toady posted:I started watching but couldn't finish. He doesn't like Imperius' wings? Who cares? it is genuinely odd that imperius' wings change when you go from skin preview to the in game model. some of the other stuff he goes into is that the stab looks really weak, and his slowing initiating move is just a recolor of medivh's one damage dealing ability. also, the sword ult is li ming's basic ability, again, and his other ult looks kinda weak (i don't really agree with this. surprised that he didn't really go into how it's a recycle of johanna's ult too though) of all of these, the only ones i find terribly noteworthy are the stab, because it does look really bad and weird, and that the wings change size between skin preview and ingame. the rest i'd agree aren't good but i genuinely just don't really care about it. the heavy asset reuse doesn't spell good things for the future of the game though, they're clearly starting to cut some corners here
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Jan 5, 2019 17:03
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Yes, the heavy asset reuse is whats spelling doom. Thats the thing that clued me in that ‘maybe HOTS is in a bad place.
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Jan 5, 2019 19:26
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i mean it's one thing among many, yeah? obviously it's not as big an indicator as them killing the esports scene, what's your point
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Jan 5, 2019 19:34
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game ded so what
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Jan 5, 2019 19:54
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ninjewtsu posted:the heavy asset reuse doesn't spell good things for the future of the game though, they're clearly starting to cut some corners here It is and it isn't. For ability models, I popped open the effects in question and they're not built the same. They look similar, that much is true, but they have different shapes and triangle counts, so they went through the effort of making new models (and textures and particles and ect). I don't know why they chose to texture it so it looked almost identical to Arcane Rift plus fire, but then again I don't know why the HOTS team does a lot of things. For the ability effects themselves, there are a ton of abilities and effects that are re-hashes of currently existing things. That's not new and hasn't been since Nova re-used Raynor's Q or Tyrande re-used Uther's Q. The problem (the actual, traceable problem) with HOTS is that it doesn't know how to spend its effort evenly. A really good example of this is Orphea vs Imperius - the former has amazingly smooth animations and a ton of love and care dumped into the gamefeel and art because she's someone's Original Character. The latter got a by-the-numbers treatment because he's just some guy from noted Dead Series, Diablo.
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Jan 5, 2019 20:06
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Eraflure posted:game ded so what im glad of it
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Jan 6, 2019 00:23
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Eraflure posted:game ded so what game ded
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Jan 6, 2019 19:22
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I just realized that Murky is a radicalized child refugee of war.
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Jan 7, 2019 01:09
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Hirethor posted:I just realized that Murky is a radicalized child refugee of war. 
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Jan 7, 2019 07:37
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I have swapped all of my sprays to this one, because it is just THAT good.
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Jan 7, 2019 07:53
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Kith posted:If you had finished watching the video, you would've seen that the second half or so goes into detail about the failings of HOTS in general (primarily lack of purchasing power, but also things like the lack of an official API), most of which he and other professional players have been requesting for several years. Way to bury the lede. Edit: I'm halfway through the video, and he's complaining about the way Imperius lifts his arms.
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Jan 7, 2019 19:55
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Toady posted:Way to bury the lede. Here you go, since maybe you aren't sure how to skip ahead in videos being a new technology and all: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8diqAEeZ5E&t=366s
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Jan 7, 2019 20:32
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Its amazing that popular heroes like Ragnaros, who's been out for 2 years, never got another skin. Oh no you have to put in some extra work modeling his skins. Poor indie game studio blizz cant afford it
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Jan 7, 2019 20:57
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But that would cost 2.5 raid tiers
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Jan 7, 2019 21:02
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Can't colour him anything other than red, red-orange, and red-yellow because he might get mistaken for the other elemental heroes in the game
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Jan 8, 2019 00:06
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Orthodox Rabbit posted:Its amazing that popular heroes like Ragnaros, who's been out for 2 years, never got another skin. i just made a big effortpost bitching about this very thing, plus general "hey blizzard how's about we actually make the game welcoming for newbies"
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Jan 8, 2019 00:09
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They couldn't even be bothered to give him a snowman skin during one of the christmas events or something. Instead we got a valeera skin, a hero that already has plenty of skins and also hasnt been relevant since they nerfed her for the sake of QM balance
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Jan 8, 2019 00:10
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Kith posted:i just made a big effortpost bitching about this very thing, plus general "hey blizzard how's about we actually make the game welcoming for newbies" All pretty good points. Its really just amazing that blizz said "the game isnt making any money!!" while failing to understand that they didnt actually make anything for you to spend money on, and when they did, did their best to prevent you from spending it.
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Jan 8, 2019 00:16
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One, that's a very good post. Two, I would love Snowman Rag. Fiery coal eyes pls blizz. Three, when did the Blizzard Forums move over to Discourse software?
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Jan 8, 2019 00:29
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beejay posted:Here you go, since maybe you aren't sure how to skip ahead in videos being a new technology and all: Thanks for linking me to the part where he complains that he thinks Stitches is ugly and whines about skins. I needed a pro to give me the same level of insight as your average "read my hero design" Battle.net poster. Heroes of the Storm didn't fail because there aren't enough skins, for gently caress's sake.
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Jan 8, 2019 01:52
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Kith posted:i just made a big effortpost bitching about this very thing, plus general "hey blizzard how's about we actually make the game welcoming for newbies" The inability to spend money directly on what I want is a big thing for me. Before gems I bought basically any hero that struck my fancy directly. After gems I think the only time I spent cash on gems was for stimpacks, and I only owned a little over half of the roster.
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Jan 8, 2019 03:45
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Toady posted:Heroes of the Storm didn't fail because there aren't enough skins, for gently caress's sake. You need money to pay people to develop new stuff and fix bugs and do balance math and to organize and run an esports league and a whole bunch of other things that MOBAs require to be "successful". As it turns out, the #1 income source for MOBAs are skins. So yes, it kinda did. Granted, the balance problems and lack of effective reporting and lack of basic QoL features didn't help, but League had all of those same problems for years and it's hardly in a state comparable to HOTS because Riot recognized the importance of maintaining the cashflow.
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Jan 8, 2019 04:44
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I wish Ragnaros was in DOTA.
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Jan 8, 2019 04:53
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While I've vowed to never buy loot boxes directly again, I could maybe consider it if you couldn't get duplicate legendaries. Even Hearthstone does it now, and they have way less and you're only buying from 100~ total items at any given time since they're split up into sets. The worst thing is getting a legendary during an event only for it to be a non-event duplicate.
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Jan 8, 2019 12:48
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Toady posted:Thanks for linking me to the part where he complains that he thinks Stitches is ugly and whines about skins. I needed a pro to give me the same level of insight as your average "read my hero design" Battle.net poster. Heroes of the Storm didn't fail because there aren't enough skins, for gently caress's sake. not enough things to buy def helped kill it
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Jan 8, 2019 13:49
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Bogart posted:I wish Ragnaros was in DOTA. i wish old sion and old yorick were in dota.
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Jan 8, 2019 14:43
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I've said it multiple times during the years playing this but all heroes should be playable for everyone. I put hundreds of dollars into this stupid game before stopping and I wouldn't be mad if they did that tomorrow. It's so short sighted to gate game play aspects away from people.
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Jan 8, 2019 15:05
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Toady posted:Thanks for linking me to the part where he complains that he thinks Stitches is ugly and whines about skins. I needed a pro to give me the same level of insight as your average "read my hero design" Battle.net poster. Heroes of the Storm didn't fail because there aren't enough skins, for gently caress's sake. Toady posted:It feels like the floor fell out from the under the game for me. I've lost nearly all interest. It hasn't recovered the charm I felt from it before Genji/Tracer came to the game, back when towers had ammo, heroes sometimes said quips, and you could buy the skins you wanted. The Good Old Days? Seems like some disconnect
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How come overwatch is printing them money if it does pretty much all the stuff hots does in regards to its monetization?
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