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The behavior you're seeing now is the normal, generally more desirable behavior. Having your windows move around every time you switched your monitors on/off would be loving obnoxious. You can use winkey + P to force everything onto a single monitor.
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Hmm, fair enough I guess. I use a 60 inch 1080p TV as a second monitor (more like a room TV) to play games on, as the main monitor is 4K and my aging founders 1070 just can't do anything with it. It was super convenient to just turn off the primary monitor (which I wouldn't use during gaming anyways) and have everything automatically switch over, then start the game, done and done. It also seemed like games behave better when it only detects one monitor vs. having to set for a specific monitor out of a multi-monitor setup, but that may be a solved problem and I'm just not with the times.
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I bought a Dell S27DGF and the thread was rigth, that must be one of the best TN panels there is. It is miles better than IPS monitor I use at work, but the work monitor is a cheap poo poo so that is not a big surprise. Viewing angles are very good, colors as well. The jump to 144Hz was surprisingly noticable, everything is buttery smooth. I was worried that I wouldn's be able to drive it with my poor old RX480 but as I play mostly older games it's not a problem for me. Witcher 3 looks good, Doom was the smoothest gaming experience I had in my life. Overall all the thumbs up, would buy again.
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Walked posted:Anyone have the LG 32GK850G? I have the FreeSync 2 version (32GK850F), which I assume is the same panel, alongside a 32" 4k (32UD59-B) and I generally prefer the GK for programming and general use. That isn't to say I don't love the 4k's real-estate and the text is certainly 'crisper' purely from a resolution point of view, but the GK is very comfortable to use where I sit about 3-4' away, the text is perfectly fine and 144hz is nice for desktop use. And it's obviously better for gaming - I have the 4k as a secondary monitor for work-related financial things at no UI/text scaling (Bloomberg terminal works super well at 4k). I'm no expert and this is really just subjective I guess, but I'm happy with it.
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Taima posted:Hmm, fair enough I guess. I use a 60 inch 1080p TV as a second monitor (more like a room TV) to play games on, as the main monitor is 4K and my aging founders 1070 just can't do anything with it. If you're only using one just set it to clone and it won't matter.
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Can you just disable your primary display in the NVidia control panel, rather than turning it off physically? *I haven't tried this and only have one monitor, so it might be totally off base. E: Win-P is the same thing, but faster! Stickman fucked around with this message at 23:55 on Jan 5, 2019 |
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okay so i have the predator xb1 27" monitor. i've noticed whenever i wake up from sleep mode. the very middle of the screen (~about 2-3 pixels) worth gets shifted entirely to the left of the monitor. so the exact middle is actually "cut out" has anyone seen this kinda issue before? restarting my computer fixes the issue so it's not exactly defective (unless it's firmware).
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It's a known issue with earlier firmware for all of the 27" 1440/144 gsync monitors using that panel (Acer, ASUS, and AOC, I think). From the number of reports that cropped up in this thread last time it was discussed, it might even be an issue with newer firmware, too. Fortunately, you don't have to restart your whole computer - just turning the monitor off and back on will fix it. Mine comes and goes, but usually only happens once every couple of days or so, not every time it wakes from sleep. Acer had a free firmware update program a few years ago, but that requires sending your monitor to Acer to flash and I'm not sure if it's still going. Mailing the monitor is probably more hassle than just cycling the monitor power every once in a while!
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thanks that worked. im glad it doesn't require a restart
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Actually you don't even need to turn it off and on. Just switch resolutions. If I wake it up and it happens (its fairly uncommon), I just right-click, display settings, change resolution to something random, and then revert instead of keep. Takes like 5 seconds and fixes it.
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Switching inputs works, too, but hitting the power button twice seemed the simplest for lazy bastards like me!
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Stickman posted:It's a known issue with earlier firmware for all of the 27" 1440/144 gsync monitors using that panel (Acer, ASUS, and AOC, I think). From the number of reports that cropped up in this thread last time it was discussed, it might even be an issue with newer firmware, too. my dell does this too Stickman posted:Switching inputs works, too, but hitting the power button twice seemed the simplest for lazy bastards like me! yes, this is considerably faster than doing any sort of resolution change or anything unless for some reason youre sitting so far back from a 27 inch monitor you cant reach it. definitely just power it on/off
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Farecoal posted:I'm still using a S200HL from 2012 for my desktop. I'd like to upgrade to 2015 by getting a 1080p display. I'm currently using a 750 Ti, if that matters. I'm not sure what a sane price is, but I don't need any fancy features VelociBacon posted:I think this one is a bit nicer. It's 75hz not 60hz, it's cheaper, it's black and thin bezel'd. And if you have a newer AMD card or ever get one you can Freesync with it. IMO the sligggghtly smaler 21.5" from the 23" screen you listed just means it'll look nicer due to increased pixel density. This looks pretty nice for my needs too! Will there be a problem running games at 60 fps on a 75hz screen though?
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No but you'll want to run them at 75fps since the monitor can do it.
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Moatman posted:New Samsung stuff at CES https://news.samsung.com/global/samsungs-new-2019-monitors-are-designed-for-modern-workspaces-and-next-generation-gaming They are not comparing it to a third party arm, they are comparing it to a standard stand. This could be a useful option, I bet most people aren't even aware you can use separate arms. It's also nice you won't need to pay and store a stand you don't intend to use, and pay notable amount for the new arm. A monitor arm probably costs peanuts if it comes with the monitor.
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The first BFGD is launching in February for the low low price of Five Thousand American Dollars
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repiv posted:The first BFGD is launching in February for the low low price of Five Thousand American Dollars DisplayPort 1.4 HDMI 2.0 Same bandwidth issues as the 4K/144hz monitors, just dumb.
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To be fair I don't think you'd be able to tell the difference between 4:2:2 and 4:4:4 at TV viewing distances, but on the other hand lol at accepting any compromise at that price point.
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Some people are saying it only has 8-bit with FRC to make matters even worse.
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repiv posted:To be fair I don't think you'd be able to tell the difference between 4:2:2 and 4:4:4 at TV viewing distances, but on the other hand lol at accepting any compromise at that price point. Exactly, I’m not paying $2000 for a monitor or $5000 for a TV just to get chroma subsampling. LG announcing 4K/120 OLED panels using HDMI 2.1 VRR doesn’t help either, I’m sure they will be less than $5000.
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What options do you have if you want a 50+ inch monitor that meets PC demands? 4:4:4, low input lag, etc.
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Welp... https://www.anandtech.com/show/13791/nvidia-ces-2019-keynote-live-blog-starts-at-8pm-pt0400-utc read in reverse quote:12:20AM EST - There's going to be a big difference in outcomes if manufacturers have to pay to get their adaptive sync/freesync monitors approved for NV's ecosystem basically some freesync monitors will get gsync support
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Strong Sauce posted:Welp... Wow, interesting. I'm eyeballing a GPU + Monitor upgrade this year so this will be of great interest.
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Hopefully it gets hacked to hell so it works with any freesync monitor. Did they say which gen cards are gonna support it? I'm on a 960 and my Dell 2001FP is getting a bit old and cranky. I'd rather not pay for a premium leather jacket.
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Announcement post in more readable form Approved monitors:  ffffffFFFFFFF now I need to buy an XV273K
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Looking at the approved monitor list it is like they were testing alphabetically and got to B and said eh gently caress it  Just was reading the rtx 2060 info, looks like a solid option from my gtx 970!
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karoshi posted:Hopefully it gets hacked to hell so it works with any freesync monitor. I’m hearing that you’ll be able to manually turn it on for non-approved monitors too, so you should be OK.
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Hello I am looking for some monitor advice please. I'm planning on getting a new PC soon which I posted in the PC part thread for advice so things may change, but for the moment this is the build I'm going for: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/g9cq8Y I'm wanting to get a new monitor for this build but I am even more clueless when it comes to those than PC components. I've had my eye on this monitor for a while which looks good to me: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00B19T7QC/ A friend suggested that instead I should get a 1400 monitor though, and looked on Amazon but I'm just very overwhelmed by everything so I'm open to suggestions. My budget would be maybe double what the monitor I linked is if any of you heavily suggest a different monitor to that.
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RoboJoe posted:Hello I am looking for some monitor advice please. I'm planning on getting a new PC soon which I posted in the PC part thread for advice so things may change, but for the moment this is the build I'm going for: That video card is kinda overdimensioned for a 1080p monitor, and the one you linked is a TN panel which is going to have pretty terrible viewing angles and colors. Ideally, to make the most out of your video card, you want an IPS panel, 1440p, 144Hz and variable refresh rate, which until a few hours ago meant G-sync. The go-to option would be the Acer XB271HU, which is that, and usually retails at around £550-600. However, these recent developments have shook things up a bit and it might be worth waiting until January 15th to see some reviews of this new Nvidia FreeSync support thing - it might be possible to find a cheaper alternative that's about as good as the XB271HU.
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Nvidia VRR support is great news. What's the visual difference between Freesync 2 with LFC and G-Sync anyway, assuming classic non-HDR 1440p and both have the same refresh rate range? I read about variable overdrive but do panels even use it? Maybe also lower input lag? I own a (budget) G-Sync panel and it is nice but after the recent news there's no way I'd buy another one when Freesync/G-sync Certified panels are far cheaper, offer more inputs and have no vendor lock-in. I'd also like to know if G-Sync Ultimate is the same actively cooled FPGA hack as in current 4K/144Hz monitors or a new, premium solution with an ASIC. eames fucked around with this message at 12:33 on Jan 7, 2019 |
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AFAIK there's no visual difference, but Freesync range is usually more limited than G-sync, but how limited depends on the monitor - Freesync tends to have a higher minimum framerate. Looking at the TFTCentral reviews of the LG 34GK950F and 34GK950G (same monitor in Freesync and G-sync variants) the Freesync one has about ~10ms input lag while the G-sync one has none. One and a half frames, ish, at 144Hz. Not too big of a deal IMO but if you're hardcore twitch gamer you might care about every millisecond you can get. In return though the Freesync variant does 144Hz and supports 10-bit color while the G-sync one only does 120Hz and 8-bit color. The Freesync panel also has a few other advantages in that case, but I'm not sure how much of that would also apply to other monitors. Will be interesting to see the review of the Acer XB271K and compare to the XV273K, since the XV273K is on the list of supported Freesync monitors.
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karoshi posted:Hopefully it gets hacked to hell so it works with any freesync monitor. Did they say which gen cards are gonna support it? I'm on a 960 and my Dell 2001FP is getting a bit old and cranky. I'd rather not pay for a premium leather jacket. Unapproved monitors or untested ones will have a switch available to turn it on manually. No hacking necessary. "For gamers who have monitors that we have not yet tested, or that have failed validation, we’ll give you an option to manually enable VRR, too."
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So what would a go to 27" high refresh ips panel be if freesync is supported on nvidia?
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The Slack Lagoon posted:So what would a go to 27" high refresh ips panel be if freesync is supported on nvidia?
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Any thoughts between ASUS and Alienware for an Ultrawide? Was looking at getting the Alienware AW3418DW -- but Asus has it's rival in the ROG Swift PG348Q. My understanding was that Alienware has better QC than Asus does (at least if Amazon reviews are to be considered)? I run a 1070 Ti; I know that Nvidia just announced their Freesync support, and I have about a month before I'm ready to buy a new monitor anyhow, so would it be worth eyeing like the ASUS ROG Strix XG35VQ? (This might be hard to answer until we see how well the drivers handle it)
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eames posted:I'd also like to know if G-Sync Ultimate is the same actively cooled FPGA hack as in current 4K/144Hz monitors or a new, premium solution with an ASIC. They showed the two FPGA hack monitors + the HP BFGD as examples of GSYNC Ultimate. So take that FWIW
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The Slack Lagoon posted:So what would a go to 27" high refresh ips panel be if freesync is supported on nvidia? There's pretty much only two options widely available on the market right now - the Acer XF270HUA (bmiidprzx) (jfc Acer what is the deal with these names) and the Asus MG279Q. Both of them were launched ~3 years ago and they're not that much cheaper than the standing recommendation (XB271HU). Probably not worth buying at the moment. Acer is launching two new models right around now though, both 144Hz with wide color gamut support - the VG271U and XV272UP. It's very unclear what the differences are, and there are no reviews for either yet as far as I know though. The XV272UP is starting to show up at retailers here at ~500€, while the old standard XB271HU is hard to find under 700€, but I dunno about American prices and I haven't seen the VG271U yet. Wait and see, I guess is what I'm saying. There's probably going to be a lot of new reviews coming out soon. Fake edit: in markets where the Dell AW3418DW has never fallen in price and is still at its original - and rather spicy - retail price of 1500€, the LG 34GK950F is starting to look like a really interesting alternative starting around 1100€.
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eames posted:Nvidia VRR support is great news. The 2 biggest advantages Gsync has over Freesync are: 1: Variable Overdrive 2: Typically support VRR all the way down to 1Hz, where as Freesync monitors usually don't go lower than 30Hz. Not that this matters because lower than 30 looks so awful that even VRR won't help. I am also not sure if Nvidia will support HDR on a Freesync monitor. Edit: Sorry I got distracted when I was posting this and forgot what I was going to say: As far as I know, most if not all Gsync panels use the variable overdrive. Lowen SoDium fucked around with this message at 18:56 on Jan 7, 2019 |
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Holy poo poo it's an orthodox Christmas miracle! Does anyone have or had experience with Philips 436M6VBPAB? It's kind of huge but on the other hand 4K and HDR and VRR now. Though it's an MVA panel apparently.
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TheFluff posted:That video card is kinda overdimensioned for a 1080p monitor, and the one you linked is a TN panel which is going to have pretty terrible viewing angles and colors. Ideally, to make the most out of your video card, you want an IPS panel, 1440p, 144Hz and variable refresh rate, which until a few hours ago meant G-sync. The go-to option would be the Acer XB271HU, which is that, and usually retails at around £550-600. However, these recent developments have shook things up a bit and it might be worth waiting until January 15th to see some reviews of this new Nvidia FreeSync support thing - it might be possible to find a cheaper alternative that's about as good as the XB271HU. Thank you, it seems the Acer you mentioned is out of my pricerange though, it's closer to £700. Are all 1440 monitors at this price? With regards to the one I linked, I don't understand the viewing angle thing though, it should be in front of me as I'm using it for a PC, is this a problem? Will it not work with the graphics card I selected because it is a TN panel? (Which I don't know if is for definite yet, I'm hoping for a reply in the PC part thread.)
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