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CRISPYBABY posted:Realtalk tho, what's the best alternative? This thread reads every Trump tweet. Him babbling to an audience tends to be a newsworthy event, even when its nonsensical propaganda. What do you do? Have him on one side of the screen and analysts on the other? You can't even keep up with his lies and nonsense it comes at you so fast. 24 News channels show it live, broadcast shows any important highlights during the 11 OClock news.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Lol imagine thinking that Madonna is a relevant figure in pop culture in the year 2019. The weird thing is that he was like "She's not Senator Barbie Doll, she's Senator Madonna" and for the life of me I can't figure out of Barbie was a positive or negative in his mind.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:They all are. MSNBC and ABC haven't said if they are. STAC Goat posted:The weird thing is that he was like "She's not Senator Barbie Doll, she's Senator Madonna" and for the life of me I can't figure out of Barbie was a positive or negative in his mind. Positive. If you want me to bust through the dog-whistles, its "She's not even a good woman who knows her place in the kitchen, she's a slut!" Remember, it all comes down to judging a womans value by how much sex they are having with people who aren't you. Fulchrum fucked around with this message at 01:10 on Jan 8, 2019 |
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VitalSigns posted:Maybe, I mean sure Trump started at 4% and shot up, but his strategy (intentional or not) was "say a bunch of crazy racist poo poo that it turns out Republican voters have been dying to hear, thereby getting $1 billion worth of free media, also break with the GOP's unpopular positions of killing their old and rural white pieces of their coalition" My opinion is that there is a significant subsection of the Dem electorate who don't want Bernie Sanders, and that subsection is going to vote for someone, and it's not going to be Biden, so SOMEONE currently polling single digits is going to get a decent number of votes*. I don't disagree that Harris isn't exceptional, but neither are any of the others, really. Her lane and paths seems clearest of all other options, but that doesn't mean I think she's got it on lock, or anything. I just think OF the non-Bernie candidates, she has the best shot, but that's as much a comment on the others as it is on her. *the alternative to this is the perpetual clowncar scenario where they're all getting slivers and no one's quitting in which case all hail President Sanders. But I think the Dems are much more likely to drop out/consolidate than the Republicans were. Z. Autobahn fucked around with this message at 01:13 on Jan 8, 2019 |
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CRISPYBABY posted:Realtalk tho, what's the best alternative? This thread reads every Trump tweet. Him babbling to an audience tends to be a newsworthy event, even when its nonsensical propaganda. What do you do? Have him on one side of the screen and analysts on the other? You can't even keep up with his lies and nonsense it comes at you so fast. I'm largely of the unpopular opinion that covering the President is a necessary evil but in this case I think the networks should have refused and left it to the news channels. Unless POTUS could guarantee it was a genuine matter of national importance I don't like that they're giving him a platform for partisan rhetoric. But devil's advocate is that he and the White House will insist its of national importance and then you get down to partisan opinions of whether he's lying or not so I dunno. In the end it doesn't really make a difference. He was gonna get heard and televised anyway and anyone who doesn't want to care won't. STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 01:19 on Jan 8, 2019 |
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Koalas Massacre posted:Also y'all are getting just as gross about AOC but in the other direction. Stan culture is loving toxic. It's so true but I don't see any chance of change - hell this thread stans out about you super hard most of the time. A lot of the D&D crowd pretty much clap their hands and honk a little horn with their nose every time they see a picture of a woman, I remember so much cringey BS about Bristol Palin when they would show her during the debates in 2008. And you stan for Shonda Rhimes.
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Fulchrum posted:MSNBC and ABC haven't said if they are.
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Idahoant posted:It's so true but I don't see any chance of change - hell this thread stans out about you super hard most of the time. hwhat.
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VitalSigns posted:No, but that guy is, anyone who argues that women of color have a responsibility to uphold the double standard that men swearing are tough and strong but women swearing are uncouth harridans is a racist and a sexist by definition, and I'm not about to forget about that when he comes in with his next complaint about women of color in politics. VitalSigns posted:Like you're smarter than this, I know you know that there's a difference between "he vaguely disagrees in some way" and "he makes sexist comments"
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Well let's be fair, the broadcast networks have to show the speech, right? I mean he's going to announce that we're in a state of national emergency because of the incident at the Reichst......oh, wait *checks notes* because of the destitute refugees fleeing violence in the home countries which we hosed up claiming asylum so they don't die. Covering it is in the national interest for the Dear Leader, but also all of us!
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I rarely clap and whoop aloud at a tweet but this nails it https://twitter.com/Randazzoj/status/1082006370751152128?s=09
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I guess in the end my feeling on "should the networks show Trump" is "No, but its not like preempting network tv means all that much in 2019."
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They could make it into a game show since dipshit used to host one. The program continues until he tells his first lie and then is cut off. The contestant closest to the correct time wins. Wayne Brady hands out some classy prizes.
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VH4Ever posted:Well let's be fair, the broadcast networks have to show the speech, right? I mean he's going to announce that we're in a state of national emergency because of the incident at the Reichst......oh, wait *checks notes* because of the destitute refugees fleeing violence in the home countries which we hosed up claiming asylum so they don't die. Covering it is in the national interest for the Dear Leader, but also all of us! I'm not sure if you're being facetious about having to carry the speech specifically, but the networks don't "have to" in a legal sense. They are not compelled to carry the speech. You're absolutely right that, by virtue of being President, basically anything Trump says is newsworthy enough that good journalistic outlets probably should cover it. But there's a question of how they ought to cover it. I saw a suggestion that they might broadcast the speech, but do so on a a ~10 minute delay so they can offer live graphics or other rebuttals to blatant lies. If I were making these decisions, I'd cover it but not do so live - perhaps even doing so on several hours delay so as to be able to give context and analysis. Of course, the networks will cover it live and Trump's disinformation / propaganda blitz on the people of the United States will be allowed to continue with minimal pushback from corporate America. Rocking the boat is bad for profits. Chimp_On_Stilts fucked around with this message at 01:26 on Jan 8, 2019 |
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You show some filler segment and get an intern to watch Trump speak. If he says anything important, change the topic to that. But they're collaborators.
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The odds Trump helps himself with the speech are... low.
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A 10 minute speech? Are we declaring war or something? 10 minutes isn’t enough time to pursued anyone of anything other than maybe we should order an appetizer.
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Groovelord Neato posted:hwhat. lmao he tried it
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jan/07/mike-pence-trump-border-wall-national-emergency More of the same uncertainty stuff. Really curious about the address if the state of emergency thing is indeed not certain to happen.
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sean10mm posted:The odds Trump helps himself with the speech are... low. That's kind of my feeling too. I half expect him to claim credit for the shutdown (again) or add yet another demand on top of things. Still shouldn't preempt normal programming.
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sean10mm posted:The odds Trump helps himself with the speech are... low. "Today was the day Donald Trump finally became President..."
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Shifty Pony posted:Might I suggest foster John's kitten cam? No ads and they have a very good crop of tuxedo and cowcats right now: Amazing  . You guys are saving my sanity!
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Ague Proof posted:You have to cut a few minutes as Trump is always deliberately late. It'll never happen, but I enjoy the idea of the networks telling Trump "okay, you get 9:00 to 9:08. At 9:09:00 we switch back to Big Bang Theory." and letting him get the end of his own dumb speech cut off because he thought it was a power move to show up late.
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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:Except no one argued that, you're just strawmanning racism and sexism into this because you know your argument is weak. See, Priapus Unbound is being generous by saying you're misreading his posts, but I'm happy to go one step further and call you a liar. You don't have to take my word for it, you can click the '?' under his avatar and see him handwaving away crude behavior from male politicians while clutching his pearls about a woman saying a swear here ya go, keep on whiteknighting the dishonest cowardly misogynist, die on that hill man. I promise if you want to "own" me I will post something stupid eventually and you can pounce, defending this guy who bailed on his own lovely arguments is the dumbest stand VitalSigns fucked around with this message at 01:48 on Jan 8, 2019 |
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Isn't anyone else posting ITT bored with Trump? I've been bored with him for nearly a year. So I'm guessing we have a year or two before the rest of America gets bored with it? Who cares what he says? He says tons of poo poo and nothing happens unless Republicans let him. Republicans, from the rank and file voter to the backroom power brokers, are the problem. Stomp out the party forever wherever you find it. When it can never win a national election again I might be entertained by debates and discussions once more.
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Teabag Dome Scandal posted:A 10 minute speech? Are we declaring war or something? 10 minutes isn’t enough time to pursued anyone of anything other than maybe we should order an appetizer. it means he will probably either A: national emergency or B: close the border.
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Themagicalgoat posted:Isn't anyone else posting ITT bored with Trump? I've been bored with him for nearly a year. So I'm guessing we have a year or two before the rest of America gets bored with it? God yes. It sometimes feels like a fad that just refuses to go away, like a fidget spinner became the center of our society. we been talking about Trump the politician since 2015
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Themagicalgoat posted:Isn't anyone else posting ITT bored with Trump? I've been bored with him for nearly a year. So I'm guessing we have a year or two before the rest of America gets bored with it? I hit this point back in the 2016 primaries. The only time I pay attention anymore is to unmute my tv for a second to see if he is shouting over a helicopter engine when he is ranting to reporters. He usually is.
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Z. Autobahn posted:It's not just California that helps Harris, it's the triple whammy of Super Tuesday hits just 4 weeks in (as opposed to 5 in 2008), California, and that this Super Tuesday has most of the Southern states where Harris is likely to perform best. Assuming that Harris does well in Cali + South (which is the entire gamble of her campaign), it's very likely to push her into a strong frontrunner position. Winning lots of delegates early absolutely does matter because primaries have a snowball effect and winning big early is one of the best ways to secure your spot.
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VitalSigns posted:You don't have to take my word for it, you can click the '?' under his avatar and see him handwaving away crude behavior from male politicians while clutching his pearls about a woman saying a swear here ya go, keep on whiteknighting the dishonest cowardly misogynist, die on that hill man.
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Tatsuta Age posted:I rarely clap and whoop aloud at a tweet but this nails it The replies are comedy gold.
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Chimp_On_Stilts posted:I'm not sure if you're being facetious about having to carry the speech specifically, but the networks don't "have to" in a legal sense. They are not compelled to carry the speech. The uh....whole thing was pretty facetious actually....uh, the tip was that I was cheering on carrying the speech using Nazi and North Korean superlatives but...you know what, nevermind. Heil Trump.
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I feel like "I'm bored of Trump" and "I might be entertained again if" speaks to a problem deeper in how one engages with politics.
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Themagicalgoat posted:Isn't anyone else posting ITT bored with Trump? I've been bored with him for nearly a year. So I'm guessing we have a year or two before the rest of America gets bored with it? Of course we're bored with Trump. He is a fundamentally boring person. He's also the head of the executive branch of our government and his death cult wants to gently caress America up forever, so we have to pay attention anyway.
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STAC Goat posted:I feel like "I'm bored of Trump" and "I might be entertained again if" speaks to a problem deeper in how one engages with politics. It is a symptom of how the media has taught us to engage with politics, really. We need twists to stay engaged, with the issue being that every twist is of the metaphorical knife in the ribs of immigrants.
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Themagicalgoat posted:Isn't anyone else posting ITT bored with Trump? I've been bored with him for nearly a year. So I'm guessing we have a year or two before the rest of America gets bored with it? He's also a part of that group. Saying you're bored with him is a real bad, privileged look. There has been plenty of poo poo he's said and/or done that the GOP, and the rest of us, wishes he hadn't. I'm not saying the GOP is blameless, they certainly aren't, they just aren't fully in control of this idiot as you seem to think they are. I'm 100% with you in stamping out the GOP though.
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RandomBlue posted:He's also a part of that group. Saying you're bored with him is a real bad, privileged look. Maybe they shouldn't have let him be their nominee.  Republicans are worse than bystanders, they are enablers.
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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:Unlike you, I actually did read his posts before commenting, and you are straight up lying by accusing him of being sexist and/or racist. I actually don't really agree with his point in its entirety, the difference between you and me is that I am capable of doing that without fraudulently claiming he is a racist, sexist, somethingsomething, and you are not. If you want to lie and slander him rather than actually engaging with his argument please take it to tumblr. Thanks! You obviously didn't. He claimed you can't have a political career if you say a swear. I posted proof of President Obama swearing and he magically flipped to "uh it's okay if you're already President". I posted proof of Obama swearing before he was President and "oops bored now gotta go bye". I didn't call him a sexist because I couldn't defend my position. I shredded his argument and exposed it for the sexist drivel it was. If you want to whine more that I'm too mean to a lovely misogynist idiot, send me a PM, otherwise quit making this thread about me because I made ya mad.
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