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Personally I am not certain whether a wall is necessary or not. I look forward to cogent arguments from both sides tonight and will form my opinion afterward.
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Retro42 posted:Don’t underestimate the Both-sidesism of the media. If the Dems go loud 10 seconds later the shutdown will start being blamed on everyone instead of just trump. I guess, but at the same time this whole thing is Trump holding a gun to his own head and making demands, forgetting that doing that requires people to care if you live or die
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PhazonLink posted:is 8 mins also how long Donnie can be up there. No way he can get up, let alone for 8 mins.
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CuddleCryptid posted:I guess, but at the same time this whole thing is Trump holding a gun to his own head and making demands, forgetting that doing that requires people to care if you live or die BUILD THIS WALL OR I DIE LIKE A DOG
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Crow Jane posted:I mean, it's just safe to assume that everyone and everything is somebody's fetish I assure you, I am nobody's fetish.
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eyebeem posted:BUILD THIS WALL OR I DIE LIKE A DOG Most of America: 
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Groovelord Neato posted:the only person in politics as dumb as sarah palin is trump and even then he's probably slightly smarter. We do have proof that Donald Trump knows the name of a newspaper, after all.
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Jan 8, 2019 22:27
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Sorry Stormy I already have plans to watch planes.
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white sauce posted:Just a troubled young man, I'm glad the judge went easy on him yea its pretty crap in this case, though the tweet thread said the judge was just following the (white people) sentencing guidelines. But it will probably come with a lot of requirements, such as no associating with any white supremacy / white power people, meetings, possibly GPS monitoring. Really easy to violate release conditions. Dude should still do at least 10 years in prison tho, 2.5 years after sentencing is BS
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feedmyleg posted:That's less than my brother got for selling weed. The tweet also fails to take into account that you can often shave 30 - 50% of a sentence off (depending on your location) for "good time" spent in jail/prison, i.e. generally avoiding problematic behavior for the system. So 2.5 years to go doesn't conform with the reality of the situation at all if he hasn't had issues and is good time-eligible.
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Tayter Swift posted:Sorry Stormy I already have plans to watch planes. Watch both. It's the only true way to get into the danger zone.
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I want to see CNN broadcast the speech live, but every time he fibs they pitch his voice just a little bit higher.
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Jan 8, 2019 22:33
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snorch posted:I want to see CNN broadcast the speech live, but every time he fibs they pitch his voice just a little bit higher. Same, but every time he lies it's the entire Bee Movie
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KillHour posted:I assure you, I am nobody's fetish. You're the one that posted the Chris Christie dancing video, right? Someone might have been into that. eyebeem posted:BUILD THIS WALL OR I DIE LIKE A DOG He'd get better results if it was BUILD THIS WALL OR THIS DOG DIES.
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So let me preface this by saying I agree with AOCs tax ideas. Now tell me how in this fully global economy can you enforce a 70% marginal tax rate on the rich? They can easily offshore their income or even just pack up and leave. Wouldn’t actions like that further weaken the US economy? Unless you take a authoritarian style restriction to the freedom of movement. I don’t see how you can stop it.
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snorch posted:I want to see CNN broadcast the speech live, but every time he fibs they pitch his voice just a little bit higher. Every dog in the country goes batshit 30 seconds in.
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Jan 8, 2019 22:35
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I was gonna binge watch some 30 Rock but glad to know I have some options now.
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Kraftwerk posted:So let me preface this by saying I agree with AOCs tax ideas. "People break laws" isn't a reason not to create laws.
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Jan 8, 2019 22:36
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Kraftwerk posted:So let me preface this by saying I agree with AOCs tax ideas. Its not that easy to offshore your income unless you just stop doing business in the US, which they can't/won't.
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Dear thread, I refuse to watch him live(it’s literally the only thing this is for, his ego) but I won’t turn down a link to it at half speed like the previously linked vid.
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Jan 8, 2019 22:36
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Kraftwerk posted:They can easily offshore their income or even just pack up and leave. Rich people love living in the United States
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white sauce posted:Rich people love living in the United States They also love living in states with higher taxes like California and New York, so it doesn't even apply in cases where moving is relatively easier
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Kraftwerk posted:So let me preface this by saying I agree with AOCs tax ideas. It would require policing the rich more, but that isn't as Orwellian as it sounds. Remember that the IRS already knows how much money people make through the corporations that they are a part of, it isn't a secret hidden value. Even more so for capital gains. The rich just employ tax lawyers whose entire existence is to move money around where it isn't technically in the states anymore. It's more complex than this but I can see them starting to go "it doesn't matter where the money ended up, your company that operates in the US made X dollars, you received Y of that according to your own records, therefore we want Y*0.7." Granted this is based on the idea that they aren't cooking their books like a celebrity chef, but then it's just a straight up crime.
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Kraftwerk posted:So let me preface this by saying I agree with AOCs tax ideas. Where are they gonna go? Let them leave if they want to.
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Whoopi Goldberg needs her taxes raised immediately.
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Kraftwerk posted:So let me preface this by saying I agree with AOCs tax ideas. In addition to what people said, they still have lives in the U.S. They may not have much in common with the common people, but those few things include family, friends and favorite places to be, and moving to another country makes it inconvenient to get to them no matter how wealthy you are just due to physical distance.
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Lemming posted:They also love living in states with higher taxes like California and New York, so it doesn't even apply in cases where moving is relatively easier Where people live and where they claim they live are often very different things. It is not uncommon for the very wealthy to claim residence in a no income tax state and live in a high tax high service state.
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Kraftwerk posted:So let me preface this by saying I agree with AOCs tax ideas. You can't restrict the freedom of human movement but you can absolutely restrict the movement of capital. If they can't bring the money in without it being taxed, they can choose between being rich outside the US, having a middle-class standard of living inside the US, or just paying the drat taxes. Also if all the rich people leave the US someone will just become rich in their stead. The rich aren't as irreplaceable as they like everyone to believe.
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Nancy Pelosi should be the one to speak. She is the Speaker of the House and 3rd in line if Trump is Impeached and leader of the opposition. She is currently leader of the Democratic Party.
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CuddleCryptid posted:It would require policing the rich more, but that isn't as Orwellian as it sounds. Remember that the IRS already knows how much money people make through the corporations that they are a part of, it isn't a secret hidden value. Even more so for capital gains. The rich just employ tax lawyers whose entire existence is to move money around where it isn't technically in the states anymore. This isn't how marginal income taxes OR international tax law works.
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Kraftwerk posted:So let me preface this by saying I agree with AOCs tax ideas. We don't have to worry about that part because they already do it
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Gatts posted:Nancy Pelosi should be the one to speak. She is the Speaker of the House and 3rd in line if Trump is Impeached and leader of the opposition. She is currently leader of the Democratic Party. I actually think this is a good argument for Pelosi giving the response. Schumer should not be in sight.
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Stormy Daniels folding laundry just doesn't have the allure of video games.
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I want to buy Jim Acosta a beer. https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1082726174025904128?s=19
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Kraftwerk posted:So let me preface this by saying I agree with AOCs tax ideas. The worst case scenario is that the rich go all Atlas Shrugged and take their wealth to the depth of the sea. And honestly, if that happened, good riddance. The people dont need the rich as much as the rich need the people.
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Nonsense posted:Whoopi Goldberg needs her taxes raised immediately. hosed up but true
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I'm so glad KarateChopgate didn't cause Acosta to become submissive.
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How to lose all your friends in one easy DVD quote:each box includes a bonus DVD with lessons that aim to teach men how to convince their other male friends to follow their path. Trailer is amazing https://youtu.be/GMMMEnpYcEM Also 
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