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89 posted:Not sure how it wasn't mentioned in here. Bears fans have decided the narrative is that it's his fault so he kicked it too low now lol
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The Bears paid the piper for the unholy abomination that was the Fog Bowl.
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Jan 7, 2019 18:18
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https://twitter.com/SportsQuotient/status/1082123420056330240 No señor! No señor! No señor! No señor!
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Jan 7, 2019 18:34
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Bears came in averaging 17 points against, which is excellent. They held the Eagles to 16, with a +2 takeaway differential, which the latter indicates victory like 97% of the time in the playoffs. Granted, the Eagles should've had like 2 picks but we'll go with what happened. Parkey was responsible for 9 of their 15 points. This was the kicker that had missed 10 coming in and probably should've been cut, but alas they kept him and trusted him enough to keep kicking it. 9 points. It's easy as poo poo to blame Parkey and I get it completely. Philly was about to probably give Elliott the Alex Henery treatment for not booting that ball through the endzone. Point is if they want to blame anything, its their offense for doing nothing. Cody Parkey will be gone, but the larger problem is going to remain.
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Jan 7, 2019 18:42
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Philly's best defensive performances all year were held Atlanta to 12 (when Philly was healthy) Held Giants to 13 Held Washington to 13 and 0 (when Washington was starting josh Johnson or whoever ) The bears offense absolutely stunk it up and seemingly went back to "oh poo poo Mitch is turnover prone" and got ultra safe until the 4th when it was desperation time
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Say Nick Foles beats the Saints, or hell, wins another SB. What happens next? Everyone in this org loves BDN and while I think locker room stuff doesn't mean much, letting Foles walk would probably actually create a mutiny. But I don't think you can pay him 20 mil either to be a backup and the trade market is pretty weak for either Foles or Wentz
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Say Nick Foles beats the Saints, or hell, wins another SB. What happens next? Everyone in this org loves BDN and while I think locker room stuff doesn't mean much, letting Foles walk would probably actually create a mutiny. Foles or Wentz would both immediately be the best available QB's on the market by a large margin.
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:Foles or Wentz would both immediately be the best available QB's on the market by a large margin. Teams rather gave 20 million to Sam Bradford than trade for Foles last year. Considering he can buy his way into FA if he wants to, how many teams would give up anything good this go round. Now that I think about it, the entire FA QB crop last year have basically all sucked. lol Wentz, man, he might be one bad hit from being Romo'd. Back injuries are loving scary Nissin Cup Nudist fucked around with this message at 21:13 on Jan 7, 2019 |
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Jan 7, 2019 21:11
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Say Nick Foles beats the Saints, or hell, wins another SB. What happens next? Everyone in this org loves BDN and while I think locker room stuff doesn't mean much, letting Foles walk would probably actually create a mutiny. Foles retires. I really think he might do it, dude almost quit before he became our backup and he apparently hates playing anywhere but Philly.
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Teams rather gave 20 million to Sam Bradford than trade for Foles last year. Considering he can buy his way into FA if he wants to, how many teams would give up anything good this go round. Now that I think about it, the entire FA QB crop last year have basically all sucked. lol With Wentz coming back from an ACL I don't think trading Foles was really ever on the table for the Eagles last offseason. This year is different with that salary bump, and it's a weak QB class in the draft, and Ryan Tannehill is the best of the free agents. Paying 20 million to Foles or betting on Wentz's health might be gambles more teams are willing to take. axeil posted:Foles retires. I really think he might do it, dude almost quit before he became our backup and he apparently hates playing anywhere but Philly. I think this is probably wishful thinking. I know you wanna see your Super Bowl hero stay with the team and retire, but the guy is only 29 and now in the midst of another playoff run. He will be in demand and he will be able to make a lot more money. Impossibly Perfect Sphere fucked around with this message at 21:20 on Jan 7, 2019 |
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Foles was pretty emotional after that last Eagles home game. Dude doesn't plan on playing in Philly after this year, and he's not wild about it—but turning down that payday would be bonkers.
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Can’t Foles do pretty well just doing the motivational tour circuit? I mean not like he can make playing, but enough to ensure continued financial security with less significant impact on health and if he wants to have more kids and not being on the road/training?
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:But I don't think you can pay him 20 mil either to be a backup and the trade market is pretty weak for either Foles or Wentz There's no trade market for Foles because he can opt-out by paying $2 million. Why would he play for any trade destination for $20 million when he can pay $2 mil and sign a multi-year deal that will most likely have around $40 million guaranteed? There's no trade market for Wentz because nobody would be willing to pay what he would cost. I believe Kempski put it best in his recent Q&A when he said he wouldn't pick up the phone for anything less than five 1st round picks.
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MazelTovCocktail posted:Can’t Foles do pretty well just doing the motivational tour circuit? I mean not like he can make playing, but enough to ensure continued financial security with less significant impact on health and if he wants to have more kids and not being on the road/training? Foles' dad prob has more money than Foles does thanks to selling his restaurant chain. He's good on money. NotWearingPants posted:There's no trade market for Foles because he can opt-out by paying $2 million. Why would he play for any trade destination for $20 million when he can pay $2 mil and sign a multi-year deal that will most likely have around $40 million guaranteed? Gruden calls and says hell trade 2018 Raiders, 2018 Bears, 2019 and 2020 Raiders picks. Do you do that? I think that was Bo Wulf's hypothetical.
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Foles' dad prob has more money than Foles does thanks to selling his restaurant chain. He's good on money. loving absolutely
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holy poo poo, apparently yesterday was the first time Jason Peters was on the field for a playoff win
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Foles' dad prob has more money than Foles does thanks to selling his restaurant chain. He's good on money. I assume you mean 2019 Raiders, 2019 Bears, 2020 and 2021 Raiders. No. The Bears pick is now #24 and Carson Wentz makes any team a contender so the future picks would probably not be top 15. 5 picks. Minimum. As a starting point.
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lol Carson Wentz wouldn't making the Raiders a contender next year. Andrew Luck wouldn't make the Raiders a contender next year. Patrick Mahomes probably wouldn't make them a contender in 2019 Gimmie them picks, Gruden
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The only factor that might allow the Eagles to keep Foles one more year is that Wentz is still on his rookie deal so there could be cap space. I have a feeling Peters might not be back next year too.
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Lurie should just pay Nick Foles illegally, like Bob Kraft does for T*m Br*dy, except instead of getting paid for some nutrition grift, it's a motivational speech grift.
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a new study bible! posted:Lurie should just pay Nick Foles illegally, like Bob Kraft does for T*m Br*dy, except instead of getting paid for some nutrition grift, it's a motivational speech grift. I don't know why more teams don't do this.
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89 posted:I don't know why more teams don't do this. they do, but there's no NCAA even pretending to keep an eye on it
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CyberPingu posted:The only factor that might allow the Eagles to keep Foles one more year is that Wentz is still on his rookie deal so there could be cap space. I have a feeling Peters might not be back next year too. Which is crazy because Peters is still playing at such a high level, what he did to Mack last weekend is insane. But I cant help but wonder what his life is going to be like 5 - 10 years out of football with the types of injuries hes had.
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:I think this is probably wishful thinking. I know you wanna see your Super Bowl hero stay with the team and retire, but the guy is only 29 and now in the midst of another playoff run. He will be in demand and he will be able to make a lot more money. This. He could play in the league for another decade, I don't know why people think he's anywhere close to retiring. Yeah he was thinking about it a few years ago, but he was in a completely different place then.
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rujasu posted:This. He could play in the league for another decade, I don't know why people think he's anywhere close to retiring. Yeah he was thinking about it a few years ago, but he was in a completely different place then. I don't remember Peters ever considering retirement a few years ago. Every offseason for the last 4-5 years, fans have been calling it his last season because of his age and high salary. But as a few of us have consistently pointed out, there has been no replacement available as good as an aging Peters, and his salary is in line with what left tackles make, so why would the team get rid of a guy when they have no adequate replacement? I think that's different now and this is Peters' last season. The Eagles will almost certainly give Wentz his extension this offseason so they will probably want Peters off the books. While he's not good, Vaitai has become an adequate temporary fill-in until Mailata is ready or they find someone else. Between filling in for Peters and Johnson, Vaitai has played 30% of the snaps this season. Vaitai also plays better when he starts rather than being rotated in for spot duty when Peters or Johnson goes out for a series or two. As with Foles, people may suggest that Peters could renegotiate with the team and play for a fraction of what he is worth out of the goodness of his heart. He is a great friends with Lurie and they may be planning an organizational role for him after retirement. But this is such an outlier possibility that I don't think it's even worth considering.
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https://twitter.com/RealSkipBayless/status/1082676167797141504 Putting aside the obvious risk of siding with a moron like Skip Bayless, I can see the logic in keeping Foles over Wentz: Foles can't be traded for any significant value because of his current buyout option, while trading Wentz could return a king's ransom of picks and/or players. So the decision could be looked at as Foles plus a lot of valuable assets vs. Wentz. But I wouldn't do it and I don't think Lurie will either. Regardless of how this season turns out, Nick Foles will forever be a legend in this city. The only way to destroy that legend would be to keep him over Wentz and have Wentz outshine him with his new team. Foles would go from a legend to a mistake. Conversely, if Foles goes to a new team and performs well it does not hurt his legacy with the Eagles. The whole city will be rooting for him to succeed unless he's playing the Eagles. The safe move is to stick with the younger player who the organization considers to be a franchise quarterback, and I think the Eagles will make the safe move.
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If the Eagles win another superbowl with Foles, all bets are off. As of now, no way do we keep Foles unless he wants to be a highly paid backup.
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I firmly believe the Eagles will get absolutely destroyed on Sunday, but if by some miracle they end up in the NFCCG against the Cowboys, Nick Foles cements his place as the Eagles starter going forward just by making it to the Super Bowl.
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Toaster Beef posted:I firmly believe the Eagles will get absolutely destroyed on Sunday, but if by some miracle they end up in the NFCCG against the Cowboys, Nick Foles cements his place as the Eagles starter going forward just by making it to the Super Bowl. Yeah, but can a QB who has never thrown for 3000 yards in a season get you to the playoffs?
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Toaster Beef posted:I firmly believe the Eagles will get absolutely destroyed on Sunday, but if by some miracle they end up in the NFCCG against the Cowboys, Nick Foles cements his place as the Eagles starter going forward just by making it to the Super Bowl. That's cute, but if there is an NFCCG, you deffo shouldnt treat it as a given, especially against a team that's beaten y'all twice now.
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The Bananana posted:That's cute, but if there is an NFCCG, you deffo shouldnt treat it as a given, especially against a team that's beaten y'all twice now. You beat Wentz twice, Foles in the playoffs is a different matter
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The Bananana posted:That's cute, but if there is an NFCCG, you deffo shouldnt treat it as a given, especially against a team that's beaten y'all twice now. Look at this guy who thinks he can predict a game of NFCE clownball.
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If the Eagles win another Super Bowl with Foles, and another team (say, Miami or some other team in the QB hunt) calls and offers you a mediocre player + 2 firsts, like these deals usually tend to, would you be mad? How do you not bet on a multiple super bowl winner? Potential and all that yes, but if Foles wins *another* Super Bowl you can’t write it off to fluke. He’s your champion.
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Amy Pole Her posted:If the Eagles win another Super Bowl with Foles, and another team (say, Miami or some other team in the QB hunt) calls and offers you a mediocre player + 2 firsts, like these deals usually tend to, would you be mad? Good loving god you take that and laugh all the way to the bank.
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I felt like it was obvious to me but i didn’t want to come off condescending. Is there any eagles fan who doesn’t run with that?
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Amy Pole Her posted:I felt like it was obvious to me but i didn’t want to come off condescending. Is there any eagles fan who doesn’t run with that? Me! Ask yourself, who would fetch more in a trade? Why would you get rid of the better player? It’s a fun thought exercise, but unless someone offers something like 4 1st round picks, I don’t think the Eagles consider it.
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Amy Pole Her posted:How do you not bet on a multiple super bowl winner? Eli Manning. Amy Pole Her posted:I felt like it was obvious to me but i didn’t want to come off condescending. Is there any eagles fan who doesn’t run with that? Perhaps your question is a little confusing. You are talking about trading Wentz for a couple of firsts and a player, right? I ask for clarification because it might seem like you are talking about trading Foles. No Eagles fan here except for Indigi is going to take that deal for Wentz.
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Amy Pole Her posted:If the Eagles win another Super Bowl with Foles, and another team (say, Miami or some other team in the QB hunt) calls and offers you a mediocre player + 2 firsts, like these deals usually tend to, would you be mad? For Foles? absolutely. For Wentz? I laugh. Minimum for Wentz should be a guaranteed top 10 pick plus at least 2 more 1st round picks. Like I don't even think a team's entire draft for a year is a fair enough price. Franchise QBs don't grow on trees and Wentz is 6 years younger than Foles.
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