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hopterque posted:That whole combat scene through Dalin's eyes is probably the most insane, authentic look at what mass combat would be like in the 40k universe anyone has ever written. Just absolute nonsensical mayhem and madness and sensory overload. I've said it before and I will again that Dalin's POV in Armor Of Contempt is pretty incredibly written. Easily one of Abnett's best books. I had chills after reading Dalin's section and you could so clearly emphasize. I lowkey loved the way that they didn't even come close to the enemy for the longest time.
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Biplane posted:then a book or two later the 3,000 strong ghosts are sent to hold the entire western approach or whatever on the fortress world Jago. It was more of an Hougoumont scenario where they were trying to hold down the flank by controlling the high ground. And they did a good job of it. Only in Death loving rules. In fact, The Lost arc between Traitor General and Only In Death is probably the best Ghosts material out there. Blood Pact is good as well, but until Abnett figures out how to finish stuff up following Warmaster I'm holding out on my judgement of The Victory arc. Arc Hammer fucked around with this message at 21:36 on Jan 11, 2019 |
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Arcsquad12 posted:It was more of an Hougoumont scenario where they were trying to hold down the flank by controlling the high ground. And they did a good job of it. Oh for sure, it's one of my favorites, but it does suffer from the scale issue that plagues all the 40k authors to some extent.
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Reminder lads The Anarch is out tomorrow on the BL website.
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I wish you didn't remind me because I forgot to preorder and I'm broke!
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Preechr posted:My favorite part of Ravenor was the elite inquisitorial team coming up against their most brutal foe, and failing: the sheer grinding horror of clerical work in the Administratum. Speaking of the administratum, is there any books or short-stories where the protagonists actively abuse the system in funny/dumb ways? Like they intentionally fill out the wrong form to be able to requisition a larger spaceship as they know the time it takes for the bureaucracy to notice the problem is longer than the expected service life of the spaceship anyway.
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None that I can recall. Usually it's a little blurb of a menial accidentally putting in a wrong number or so and then shrugging their shoulders in an "Eh, what's the worse that can happen?" manner since they can't or have no time to correct it.
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Zudgemud posted:Speaking of the administratum, is there any books or short-stories where the protagonists actively abuse the system in funny/dumb ways? Like they intentionally fill out the wrong form to be able to requisition a larger spaceship as they know the time it takes for the bureaucracy to notice the problem is longer than the expected service life of the spaceship anyway. I mean Ciaphas Caine's whole schtick is abusing the system to keep him and his people and especially him safe from harm. It doesn't always work, which is when we get a book, but by and large he is pretty great at Beuracracy.
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mllaneza posted:Holy poo poo that's good. Best Astartes in video form to date. Hot drat this is some cool poo poo.
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Arquinsiel posted:Miniatures exist of Titan crew. None of them are hardwired in. IIRC the forgeworld stuff at least had the crew plugged in, but there's not actually as much room in there as the novels like to play with. Also being in the tank isn't too bad because there's a noosphere link so you've basically got a local internet connection.
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Theres a princeps in plague war struggling to master hisWarhounds machine spirit, and he’s thinking about how one day he can immerse himself in an amniotic tank and lose himself inside the Titan. It’s something he’s looking forward to.
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I don't remember in which book I read it, but the explanation that piloting a Titan is essentially an addiction. The longer you do it, the harder it gets to unplug and be yourself. The tank is where you end up once you can't really function as a normal dude walking around anymore. Like, when you've past the point where being plugged into the manifold is more natural than just being yourself. Or, as previously mentioned, if you for some reason or another suddenly find yourself short of a couple of limbs.
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Zudgemud posted:Speaking of the administratum, is there any books or short-stories where the protagonists actively abuse the system in funny/dumb ways? Like they intentionally fill out the wrong form to be able to requisition a larger spaceship as they know the time it takes for the bureaucracy to notice the problem is longer than the expected service life of the spaceship anyway. I think the closest you get to an administratum gently caress up being a central part of the plot happens in Fifteen Hours where someone does some poor data entry that results in a troop transport crash landing in the wrong war zone which results in everyone except the protagonist getting killed .
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ed balls balls man posted:Reminder lads The Anarch is out tomorrow on the BL website. Wait what.
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Arcsquad12 posted:Wait what. It says it's available on the 12th.
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wiegieman posted:It says it's available on the 12th. 
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wiegieman posted:It says it's available on the 12th. Just checked it and it's actually out on the 19th but is available to preorder from the 12th. They could have made that clearer.
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a lovely king posted:Just checked it and it's actually out on the 19th but is available to preorder from the 12th. They could have made that clearer. Just gone to buy it and yeah, they've cleared it up. Knobs.
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Can't wait for it to come out three months later to any store that isn't the BL webstore or a GW store.  Granted that does give me time to read The Warmaster, which I haven't gotten around to yet because I'm on hold with the Ulrika the vampire omnibus. But yeah, still not too pleased with BLs release practices as I want to read the Blacktalon book among others but it's still not out yet elsewhere.
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No sign of the audiobook either I note. They definitely said Mp3 as one of the options for Anarch when it was in the 'Coming Soon' tab.
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For the way tech works the best way to think about it i think is that there is no standard way of doing anything in 40k, there might be common tech like "man machine interface" and some forgeworld in bumble gently caress has to wire you into the ship itself because well thats how they know how to do it. While another forgeworld/sector might have the tech to have a lighter hand in things with just some interface ports on the skull.
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City of Secrets by Nick Horth is a fantastic novella. Highly recommended!
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Arcsquad12 posted:It depends on the book, depends on the situation, like everything Abnett does. He can nail scale in one book and botch it the next. His best look at mass scale combat is probably the initial planetfall in Armor of Contempt when the Navy displaces so much atmosphere that they cause a cascade of thunderstorms dues to the pressure change. Abnett just isn't a 40k bible type of guy. He's a solid writer that happens to do 40k and he writes fun books that are thematically consistent. He won't keep track of how many crew members a ship has in the lore (although he'll be consistent within his story).
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So what are good books to read? I haven't gotten anything new since Watchers on the Throne and I'd like to pick something up since I'm ordering the Anarch right now. I'm especially interested in anything with Guilliman and anything good by writers I already like (Christ Wraight, Abnett and Bowden).
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Out of curiosity, has there been anything announced as to whether Gaunt's Ghosts is ending any time soon, since The Anarch will presumably finish off the latest "season"?
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Metalshark posted:Out of curiosity, has there been anything announced as to whether Gaunt's Ghosts is ending any time soon, since The Anarch will presumably finish off the latest "season"? I think I read an interview with Abnett where he said he had one more arc in mind after this one but no confirmation on whether that'll be the last arc.
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Demiurge4 posted:So what are good books to read? I haven't gotten anything new since Watchers on the Throne and I'd like to pick something up since I'm ordering the Anarch right now. Dark Imperium and Dark Imperium: Plague War, although not written by any of the holy trinity, are both really loving good and feature Guilliman prominently.
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Demiurge4 posted:So what are good books to read? I haven't gotten anything new since Watchers on the Throne and I'd like to pick something up since I'm ordering the Anarch right now. Lords of Silence by Wraight is a really great death guard book.
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I could see Abnett writing another section after finishing Anarch. Have the final battle that ultimately wins the Sabbat Crusade, and then have an arc that deals with the bitter reality of how long mop up operations will take and how he still hasn't found a home for the Tanith.
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I recently picked up The Victory omnibus (part 1), and given how low-key impressed the Space Marines were with Gaunt, Mkoll, and the Ghosts in general , I could see any future Ghost-claimed planet becoming a recruitment planet for one of the chapters . Lol who am I kidding, the Ghosts will never get a planet.
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Biplane posted:Dark Imperium and Dark Imperium: Plague War, although not written by any of the holy trinity, are both really loving good and feature Guilliman prominently. Plague War was okay but man what were you on because the first Dark Imperium book is just absolutely dreadful. It's almost as bad as that one terrible smurf novel we're all forgetting from the early Horus Heresy days.
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The Iron Rose posted:Plague War was okay but man what were you on because the first Dark Imperium book is just absolutely dreadful. It's almost as bad as that one terrible smurf novel we're all forgetting from the early Horus Heresy days. Dark Imperium had the redeeming quality of being the first to give us an in depth insight into Guilliman post resurrection but otherwise yes, it's just a commercial for Primaris Marines models.
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The Iron Rose posted:Plague War was okay but man what were you on because the first Dark Imperium book is just absolutely dreadful. It's almost as bad as that one terrible smurf novel we're all forgetting from the early Horus Heresy days. I loved it
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Senjuro posted:Dark Imperium had the redeeming quality of being the first to give us an in depth insight into Guilliman post resurrection but otherwise yes, it's just a commercial for Primaris Marines models. The opening set in the scouring owned, the side bit of the dude on the hospital world was neat and the bit at the end was decent. The biggest issue with dark imperium is that its like 3 "good" short stories but slammed together as one novel it drags alot with tons of establishing and framing. Armor of fate the short story where Gdubs meets with the eldar about if he can take off his armor without dying since it may or may not contain his soul phoneix lord style rather than it being in his body is a perfect example of how they would have worked as bite sized stories. Same with plague war honestly though that was a little more cohesive.
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Preechr posted:My favorite part of Ravenor was the elite inquisitorial team coming up against their most brutal foe, and failing: the sheer grinding horror of clerical work in the Administratum. My favorite part of Ravenor was his team of geniuses and veteran professionals trying to aprehend a suspect during a public event, at his place of work with full security and a planetary governor in attendance, instead of doing it the day before when he goes to take a dump or something.
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