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teagone posted:Shelling, strafing. Semantics. Just remembered that strafing plane ends up crashing into Smallville when the one big dude squishes the pilot. You asked for examples of the military's resulting collateral damage in the film, well there they are. I mean...yes, there’s a difference. “Shelling” implies a sustained bombardment over time. That doesn’t happen. And blaming the military for the actions of the invading aliens seems pretty disingenuous. The point was the military causing collateral damage, not being the unfortunate victims of it. quote:I like how you deflected the examples with the good ol' "but look at all the collateral damage Superman caused in comparison!" I mean, yeah, Kryptonians are dangerous and clearly destructive. The movie doesn't shy away from telling you that. What were you arguing again? Yeah, causing “quite a small amount, really, all things considered” versus “Jesus Christ, it’s like you’re trying to gently caress everything up” is a pointless distinction. And originally I was poking fun at certain people’s reaction to Black Panther and McCloud just blithely dove onto that grenade. To be fair, I’m the one who brought up the Forbidden Movie, so sorry about that, guys.
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And I very pointedly made fun of you right back, I thought that was obvious.
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McCloud posted:And I very pointedly made fun of you right back, I thought that was obvious. You tried, bless your heart.
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Cythereal posted:I will always remember WW for how hilariously bleak and ironic the ending is. Yay, Ares is dead! Everyone's laughing and hugging! The War to End All Wars is over! I just use CD's go to defense whenever someone criticizes "300". "It has an unreliable narrator!" See, WW is framed as flashback from Diana's POV. So that ending is how she's choosing to remember it, not how it actually happened. So it can't be criticized. This also works for Disney's The Lone Ranger.
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It especially works for The Lone Ranger because nobody saw it
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AlBorlantern Corps posted:It especially works for The Lone Ranger because nobody saw it I saw that in the cinema with my parents and it was my mum's favourite movie of the year because she thinks Johnny Depp is "so quirky" (this is also why my parents and many of their friends, as I was very surprised to learn a couple of years ago, love The Big Bang Theory).
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... is it also why Trump won?
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Fangz posted:... is it also why Trump won? Wrong country, though my parents are admittedly the sort of people who would be very embarrassed by Trump but then vote for him anyway because Clinton was too left-wing for them.
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So brexit?
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There are other lovely countries out there that aren't the US or the UK
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Sgt. Politeness posted:So brexit? No, my parents were both firmly anti-Brexit. Dad, at least, is of the view that we never should have joined but that however bad he thinks the EU is, leaving would be much worse.
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Samuringa posted:There are other lovely countries out there that aren't the US or the UK Hey now, don't talk poo poo about Estonia.
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Here in Ontario we elected the bloated rear end in a top hat rich brother of Toronto's crack smoking mayor because people outside the city wanted to stick it to us because we're full of scary brown people.
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Just saw Into the Spider-Verse, you were right folks, excellent movie. Really impressively done all around, very very cool. "I am a man" I also noticed anime legend Lex Lang in the credits, that guy has been in everything.
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Hot Take I've grown to prefer the Man of Steel theme (Hans Zimmer) over the Superman the Motion Picture theme (John Williams).
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Rhyno posted:Hot Take I like them both, but I still have to give the Williams theme a slight edge. They’re both very well-suited for their respective films. I still think the absolute best theme for the character in general is Shirley Walker’s Superman: TAS theme. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gm5TFS8sjvc
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I loved the Williams theme. But there's this chunk of the fandom that won't accept anything else and keep trying to hamfist the original theme into every new iteration of the character and it's gotten very old.
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Give it time. The Williams theme has been an integral part of the character’s film history for 41 years now, the Zimmer theme is only 6 years old. It’ll be appreciated in time if it continues to be used.
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With Snyder out and Cavill most likely out I'm not holding my breath. Hell Whedon ham-fisted the WIlliams theme into JL. The next iteration of Superman will likely have trunks and return to that theme.
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MoS theme live is real good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLP0Sn8XbG4 And yes, it's easily the best superhero theme since forever (WW's theme comes pretty close for me). [edit] WW's theme live for good measure https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZJBBE4TeYk teagone fucked around with this message at 11:35 on Jan 12, 2019 |
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Rhyno posted:With Snyder out and Cavill most likely out I'm not holding my breath. Hell Whedon ham-fisted the WIlliams theme into JL. The next iteration of Superman will likely have trunks and return to that theme. Regular Trunks or Future Trunks?
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Future hopefully. That sword was badass.
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The John Williams Superman theme is, like, it when it comes to superhero themes. It’s the platonic ideal. Comparing anything to it is unfair to the other song. Of the current superhero movie themes, Silvestri’s Captain America and Avengers, Giacchino’s Doctor Strange and Spider-Man, and Beck’s Ant-Man themes are all stand-outs for me.
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I've always loved Elfman's Spider-Man and Shirley Walker's Batman. In both cases they are dealing with characters that are equal parts tragic and heroic, and that combination of sadness and heroism is beautifully combined in both themes.
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I don't get how the combined talent of Zimmer and Junkie XL produced the least memorable Batman theme ever for BvS.
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For me Shirley Walker’s Superman beats them all.
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X-O posted:For me Shirley Walker’s Superman beats them all. I prefer her Batman theme, especially when it gets properly operatic in Mask of the Phantasm.
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Elfman's 1990 Flash theme is still pretty legit and I squealed a little when the beats of it were used in Elseworlds.
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The best version of the John Williams Superman theme.
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John williams theme is iconic, but I think Zimmers version suits MoS perfectly. Shirley Walkers superman is kinda generic, but her Batman is fantastic, and my favorite version. Of course, WW theme from BvS blows them all out of the water jesus christ. However as Whedon demonstrated, you can’t just slap a theme on a scene and think that’ll work.
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Phylodox posted:I prefer her Batman theme, especially when it gets properly operatic in Mask of the Phantasm. The "operatic" parts are just the director, writers, etc, name sung backwards. Rhyno posted:Hot Take I couldn't even tell you what the Zimmer theme sounds like. Willow, on the other hand ... Plus, everyone knows THIS is the best comic book theme. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81HUn352hZ4 Davros1 fucked around with this message at 17:56 on Jan 12, 2019 |
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There have been some great themes over the years, but the new WW one is the only one I keep on my regular playlist
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Arist posted:my favorite superhero theme is unironically ant-man's It does a fantastic job of synthesizing the movie’s jazzy heist and comic book superhero identities.
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Shirley Walker's Nightwing theme is legitimately the best superhero theme.
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Doctor Spaceman posted:I don't get how the combined talent of Zimmer and Junkie XL produced the least memorable Batman theme ever for BvS. Yeah, this was super disappointing. Was hoping they'd come up with something just as good as the MoS and WW themes.
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I love the WW theme but I don't like it as Wonder Woman's theme. It always came across to me as Doomsday's theme TBH.
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I think Doctor Octopus’ from Spider-Man 2 and the Vulture’s from Spider-Man: Homecoming deserve honourable mentions.
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The best superhero there is Ash's from Army of Darkness
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