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JFairfax
Oct 23, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
Theresa May’s chances of delivering Brexit on 29 March are fading fast after senior ministers privately admitted more time is needed even if her deal wins the backing of parliament.

Senior Tories have accepted that the sheer amount of legislation parliament must pass to prepare for Brexit regardless of whether Ms May’s plans are approved, makes a withdrawal on the agreed date almost impossible.

One cabinet minister told The Independent that in the unlikely event the prime minister’s deal is actually approved on Tuesday, then a couple more weeks would still be needed – if as expected it is not, then a longer delay of Brexit looks inevitable if a no-deal scenario is to be avoided.
...
But the inevitability of a delay to Brexit was highlighted by one cabinet minister who told The Independent that a short extension of Article 50 would probably be required to implement a deal that is approved.

The frontbencher said: “It will be difficult to pass the legislation by the end of March, even if the deal goes through.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...l-a8723281.html

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Clyde Radcliffe
Oct 19, 2014

Grape posted:

Getting into British chuds is like discovering a new genre. I'm so used to rotund hayseeds, cursed barbie dolls, and greasy snake oil salesmen. But the British versions are fascinating, all these people from central casting for "aristocrat who is also a pedophile vampire".

They're fundamentally the same. The Rees-Moggs of this world are still greasy snake oil salesmen promising a beautiful new dawn for Britain if we only reject the EU and embrace American-style free market capitalism. They just do it with a plummy posh English accent that makes them sound more intelligent than they are.

British CHUDs are pretty much the same as Ameri-CHUDs:
  • Financially secure boomers who live in the quaint all-white village of Little Buttlickton and have never encountered a brown person IRL but are terrified by the idea that letting migrants into the country might mean savages overrunning their village.
  • Working-class people in cities who have to live alongside migrants, but feel that the migrants are taking all the jerbs because the poor bastards are willing to work the shittiest jobs for minimum wage, but the idea that they might be in the same situation as migrants and maybe better working conditions would help everyone is completely beyond them.

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

God help you if ever you're caught on these shores

A man's ambition must indeed be small
To write his name upon a shithouse wall
reminder that rees-mogg is nearly unique in that tories hate him more and more every time they watch him speak, as well as the awkward fact that he appears in breach of international finance law which somehow a loving goon was part of uncovering

too posh and criminal to be a tory how u even

SMILLENNIALSMILLEN
Jun 26, 2009



dude took his nanny door knocking with him. hes like 50 years old

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

50k more child marriages than the total number of marriages in aotearoa newzealand over the same period lol

really queer Christmas
Apr 22, 2014


you know I had to brexit to them

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

https://twitter.com/AaronBastani/status/1083788348437733376

to defeat the ukiper, you must first become the ukiper. this is the way of the bastani

Gum
Mar 9, 2008

oho, a rapist
time to try this puppy out
https://twitter.com/mikegalsworthy/status/1083886169216176128?s=19

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016


someone tell the border force cutters not to use live ammunition, britain's gonna need those dinghys

Gum
Mar 9, 2008

oho, a rapist
time to try this puppy out
Seaborne Freight has no ships and no trading history

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

Gum posted:

Seaborne Freight has no ships and no trading history

Yes, but they're cronies so none of that matters.

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


No deal brexit is gonna be a real boom industry for companies made 10 minutes ago by a cabinet ministers best friend

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

https://twitter.com/skwawkbox/status/1083878321744691205

theresa may's cuts to education are already having devastating effects on the numeracy scores of britain's hacks

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

Gum posted:

Seaborne Freight has no ships and no trading history

And is going to operate out of a harbour that hasn't been dredged yet.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
This seaborne thing is the gift that keeps on giving


quote:

'Impossible' for Seaborne's Brexit port to be ready for March


The mayor of Ostend has told the BBC the Belgian port will not be ready for a new ferry line in time for Brexit.

Bart Tommelein was asked about the UK government's award of a £13.8m contract to Seaborne Freight for a service between Ramsgate and Ostend.

He said it was "impossible" that Ostend would be ready and that he was going to Ramsgate next week to discuss the situation with "all the stakeholders".

His remarks came as Transport Secretary Chris Grayling again defended the deal.

Mr Grayling, appearing in the Commons to answer an urgent question tabled by Labour, said no money would be spent unless the service operated correctly.

Mr Grayling said there were "no reasons to believe any of those involved in this business are not fit to do business with government".

The controversy erupted after the BBC discovered that Seaborne had never run a ferry service before and did not have any ships. Later, it was discovered to have used terms and conditions on its website apparently intended for a takeaway food firm.

Local Conservative councillor Beverly Martin has already said Ramsgate harbour cannot be ready in time for the UK's scheduled departure from the EU on 29 March.

Video has also emerged of Thanet District Council's deputy chief executive, Tim Willis, saying it is "rather late" for the government to be spending for Brexit contingency, "just a few short months away".

Guarantees needed
The Ostend mayor said he had doubts about Seaborne Freight and wanted bank guarantees to ensure that the city would not be left with the bill if the project ran into difficulty.

Asked if Ostend would be ready to run regular services by 29 March, he told the BBC: "No, that's impossible. We are interested in a ferry line... because we have a harbour and a harbour needs traffic. But there are some inconveniences, also some investments to do in our harbour [and] in the harbour of Ramsgate.

"We need some guarantees [from] the ferry line themselves because I'm worried about a few things... I want guarantees about the profitability of this ferry line and the solvency of this company."

Among his concerns were migrants using the port and the costs that Ostend could face for getting ready for the new ferry line. "If the ferry line is getting millions of pounds [from] the government, I think they have to do some investments in the harbour," he said.

Ramsgate has not had a regular ferry service since 2013. The contract to Seaborne was one of three awarded to ease potentially severe congestion at Dover in the case of a no-deal Brexit.

Mr Grayling told MPs that Seaborne would not get any money from the government if the service did not run and the contact award was "done properly in a way that conforms with government rules".

When asked if the company had told the government which vessel would be used, he replied that the government had been told "in great detail" about the plans.

Shadow Transport Secretary Andy McDonald said Seaborne Freight had "no money, no ships, no track record, no employees, no ports, one telephone line and no working website or sailing schedule".

'Unlawful'
One of the firm's directors, Ben Sharp, is already under investigation by a government department, he said.

"This is a shoddy and tawdry affair, and the secretary of state is making a complete mess of it," Mr McDonald said.

He added that it "violates every current best practice guidance issued by Whitehall". It was very likely to be "unlawful".

Mr Grayling said that £103m of contracts had been awarded to French company Brittany Ferries and Danish shipping firm DFDS, with the smaller contract awarded to Seaborne, a new British company.

The government found "nothing that would prevent them [Seaborne] from contracting with government" after vetting of Seaborne Freight by lawyers Slaughter & May, accountants Deloitte and consultants Mott MacDonald.


https://www.bbc.com/news/business-46799136

Ika
Dec 30, 2004
Pure insanity

So the UK awarded a contract to a company without ships, to run a ferry service between two ports neither of which is capable of hosting ships, in order to show the EU that it is serious about no deal?

I remember an interview with the creators of "Yes, Prime Minister" a few years ago stating that the current political reality is much worse than anything that would have been believable satire back when they were making the series, and this just confirms it.

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid
Im a big fan of the theory that they had to stop making the thick of it because they were throwing too many scripts in the bin after the government actually did them

Obliterati
Nov 13, 2012

Pain is inevitable.
Suffering is optional.
Thunderdome is forever.

Ika posted:

So the UK awarded a contract to a company without ships, to run a ferry service between two ports neither of which is capable of hosting ships, in order to show the EU that it is serious about no deal?

I remember an interview with the creators of "Yes, Prime Minister" a few years ago stating that the current political reality is much worse than anything that would have been believable satire back when they were making the series, and this just confirms it.

The company includes relatives of Tory MPs so tbh this is the routine low-level corruption that has always characterized the UK

SelenicMartian
Sep 14, 2013

Sometimes it's not the bomb that's retarded.

It's a shame Mark Taverner is dead. His Absolute Power radio series would have been just perfect for this. Tory leadership consulting two guys one of whom is a shameless grifter and the other is permanently drunk.

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Cerv posted:

no actually the Amazon "HQ2" auction was cool and good and it's necessary for the UK to legalise that for the road to socialism

To be fair the whole of Luxembourg's buisnessmodel is doing those tax scams, so I wouldn't say the EU did a particularly good job in banning them.

Martout
Aug 8, 2007

None so deprived

how did people in the room keep from lunging for that rear end in a top hat idiots loving throat

Dance Officer
May 4, 2017

It would be awesome if we could dance!
I'm currently giving seaborne a 50-50 chance of being an actual legit company

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

Martout posted:

how did people in the room keep from lunging for that rear end in a top hat idiots loving throat

Decorum.

hallebarrysoetoro
Jun 14, 2003

Elevator Screamer posted:

They're fundamentally the same. The Rees-Moggs of this world are still greasy snake oil salesmen promising a beautiful new dawn for Britain if we only reject the EU and embrace American-style free market capitalism. They just do it with a plummy posh English accent that makes them sound more intelligent than they are.

British CHUDs are pretty much the same as Ameri-CHUDs:
  • Financially secure boomers who live in the quaint all-white village of Little Buttlickton and have never encountered a brown person IRL but are terrified by the idea that letting migrants into the country might mean savages overrunning their village.
  • Working-class people in cities who have to live alongside migrants, but feel that the migrants are taking all the jerbs because the poor bastards are willing to work the shittiest jobs for minimum wage, but the idea that they might be in the same situation as migrants and maybe better working conditions would help everyone is completely beyond them.

you're forgetting the 3rd group, the economically irrelevant who think brexit will make their rural town important to capitalism again

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author

Dance Officer posted:

I'm currently giving seaborne a 50-50 chance of being an actual legit company

Did you watch the video?

Real UK Grime
Jun 16, 2009
Yeah 50-50 is generous, by which I mean fuckin wrongo

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


Obliterati posted:

The company includes relatives of Tory MPs so tbh this is the routine low-level corruption that has always characterized the UK

What would high level corruption be?

Gum
Mar 9, 2008

oho, a rapist
time to try this puppy out

Dance Officer posted:

I'm currently giving seaborne a 50-50 chance of being an actual legit company

More controversy erupted today over the “shipping company with no ships” awarded a £14 million Brexitcontract when it was claimed it had cut and pasted a food delivery website’s legal terms.

Seaborne Freight’s website contains a page of “terms and conditions” that refer to the delivery of meals and the responsibility of customers to give drivers the correct address.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Gum posted:

More controversy erupted today over the “shipping company with no ships” awarded a £14 million Brexitcontract when it was claimed it had cut and pasted a food delivery website’s legal terms.

Seaborne Freight’s website contains a page of “terms and conditions” that refer to the delivery of meals and the responsibility of customers to give drivers the correct address.

There will be adequate food

Zoran
Aug 19, 2008

I lost to you once, monster. I shall not lose again! Die now, that our future can live!

Elman posted:

I read them ages ago but I don't remember it being noticeable in the original books. As far as I know he only lost his poo poo post 9/11.

Then he started going back and rewriting and suddenly his characters were pontificating about traditional family values and his awful politics and at this point if he ever releases the last book it'll be about how it's perfectly ok to genocide the new aliens because it turns out they're Muslims or something like that.

pretty sure in his last one he reveals that the aliens who got genocided the first time around actually deserved it after all

Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003

Hentai Jihadist posted:

No deal brexit is gonna be a real boom industry for companies made 10 minutes ago by a cabinet ministers best friend

So it's going to be Russia circa 1992

Spime Wrangler
Feb 23, 2003

Because we can.

Zoran posted:

pretty sure in his last one he reveals that the aliens who got genocided the first time around actually deserved it after all

or how Enders game was about a kid being accidental hitler and feeling bad about it after the fact but that’s ok it was necessary

and then Enders shadow was about how actually another smarter kid was also there to be backup intentional hitler and he would have done it the same way so don’t worry about it

ScrubLeague
Feb 11, 2007

Nap Ghost

Ghost Leviathan posted:

There will be adequate food

There just won't be like, broccoli

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost
You'll be picking bugs out of your 3-day old pottage, just like your ancestors.

RealityWarCriminal
Aug 10, 2016

:o:

Spangly A posted:

reminder that rees-mogg is nearly unique in that tories hate him more and more every time they watch him speak, as well as the awkward fact that he appears in breach of international finance law which somehow a loving goon was part of uncovering

too posh and criminal to be a tory how u even

Where can I find more about this?

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Spangly A posted:

reminder that rees-mogg is nearly unique in that tories hate him more and more every time they watch him speak, as well as the awkward fact that he appears in breach of international finance law which somehow a loving goon was part of uncovering

too posh and criminal to be a tory how u even

Sounds like the Hillary Clinton of tories.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Ramrod Hotshot posted:

So it's going to be Russia circa 1992

yes why do you think they're for it in the first place

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

God help you if ever you're caught on these shores

A man's ambition must indeed be small
To write his name upon a shithouse wall

Reality Winter posted:

Where can I find more about this?

Here

Correcting myself for the thread; it's actually legal to make shitloads of money from sanctioned banks, absolutely no idea why I thought it wouldn't be lmao

It came up in UKMT, someone was working in a team doing oppo research on him/the ERG shortly after the early 2018 round of CA/Vote Leave scandals, will try to find it tomorrow. JRM was getting massive surges in media attention, presumably from the same shady funds that were boosting him on FB. Then this came out close to the Skripal thing and he wisely hosed off for six months as "owns shares in sanctioned siberian banks" was not a good look for anyone involved.

He's tried to come back with it all dying down but polls keep showing tory voters like him less the more they've seen him speak, which is hilarious

Ghost Leviathan posted:

Sounds like the Hillary Clinton of tories.

there isn't a single person alive in America who compares to JRM, he's too classist and old fashioned for england ffs

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid

Zeroisanumber posted:

You'll be picking bugs out of your 3-day old pottage, just like your ancestors.

why would I remove my only source of protein?

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Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


Ramrod Hotshot posted:

So it's going to be Russia circa 1992

well iv been wikitrailing this and uh oh

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