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TF CURES GENERATOR posted:Would she be worse than Trump? No? On the same line, who are the front runners that aren't disappointing?
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As Nero Danced posted:On the same line, who are the front runners that aren't disappointing? Sanders, sherrod brown, imo.
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my kinda ape posted:I don't see the point of asking this. It's like asking if they breathe air. I guess my point is suck it up and vote 
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bernie is too old i don't know anything about sherrod brown other than 'he's a senator from ohio' and if my largely informed rear end doesn't know that much about him beyond that, he's got some work to do
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Crakkerjakk posted:Sanders He is way too old for the big seat, he'd die. e: It's only the last few months people have started to put themselves forwards, they've got most of 2019 to put their names up, the front runner may be someone that's not tried to go for it yet.
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Jan 12, 2019 23:07
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TF CURES GENERATOR posted:I guess my point is suck it up and vote I mean yeah if both choices are going to gently caress over the poor, working class and minorities why not pick the one that at least makes the middle class comfy. That's just how it do be now
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Jan 12, 2019 23:10
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TF CURES GENERATOR posted:I guess my point is suck it up and vote Whoa whoa whoa real Americans only bud. If you don't drive a truck and bleed red white and blue you're just noise!
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Jan 12, 2019 23:13
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As Nero Danced posted:On the same line, who are the front runners that aren't disappointing? warren is about the most progressive front runner we have
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Jan 12, 2019 23:16
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Crakkerjakk posted:Sanders, sherrod brown, imo. Sanders is not a front runner, he is a fossil, and if bernouts vote for harambe or some stupid bullshit in protest and give us 4 more years of Hair Furor, they should be lined up against a wall and shot.
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Jan 12, 2019 23:23
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orange juche posted:Sanders is not a front runner, he is a fossil, and if bernouts vote for harambe or some stupid bullshit in protest and give us 4 more years of Hair Furor, they should be lined up against a wall and shot. that didn't really happen but yeah dude is god drat old. If there are literally no politicians anywhere close to being as progressive as bernie while being at least 20 years younger then good lord we're hosed
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If any of these potential candidates can't survive the in-fighting and stake out a credible case for why they should lead the Party then they're definitely not going to be able to stand up what Trump and the GOP dish out. There should be no free passes, especially since (with a half-exception for prior-rans like Bernie) none of the 2020 candidates have stood up a campaign organization and published their policies and positions for review and debate. There are still fundamental issues like healthcare, climate change, immigration, etc that the Dems need to come to grips with and should be just as important as simply voting Trump out.
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orange juche posted:Sanders is not a front runner, he is a fossil, and if bernouts vote for harambe or some stupid bullshit in protest and give us 4 more years of Hair Furor, they should be lined up against a wall and shot. Except if you live in a poo poo hole like Illinois. No way was I voting for Hilldawg or Hair Furor. Besides IL went Hillary immediately, so I comedy optioned Harambe
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Terrifying Effigies posted:If any of these potential candidates can't survive the in-fighting and stake out a credible case for why they should lead the Party then they're definitely not going to be able to stand up what Trump and the GOP dish out. There should be no free passes, especially since (with a half-exception for prior-rans like Bernie) none of the 2020 candidates have stood up a campaign organization and published their policies and positions for review and debate. There are still fundamental issues like healthcare, climate change, immigration, etc that the Dems need to come to grips with and should be just as important as simply voting Trump out. Dealing with 4 years more years of hair furor is not the best time for an ideological purity argument. Trump's admin is actively hostile to any progressive ideas, and he's a bigly moron who will absolutely destroy this country if he is given 4 more years. However the Democratic primaries shake out, Democrats cannot afford to stay home because they got their feefees hurt that their pet candidate did not make it. They need to get out, register to vote, and then actually do so. Trump and the GOP do not determine the election, voters do. If the party unifies behind the Democratic candidate instead of doing some wiffle waffle bullshit and not voting, then Trump and co can shriek their loving brains out on Fox News they will still lose. orange juche fucked around with this message at 23:41 on Jan 12, 2019 |
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Warren is the best candidate ideologically but she kinda shot herself in the foot in electability so who knows. The reality is that there's no candidate with the will and political clout to institute the Marshall Plan level of commitment to staving off the worsening of climate change so that our grandchildren don't grow up in a world where the oceans are empty, the coral reefs are a historical footnote and they don't understand what bug splats on a windshield are. I mean yeah you can't afford to not just vote straight ticket D. But there needs to be a whole bumper crop of good candidates growing and soon. AOC is bae and all but you can't pin all your hopes onto one person fixing everything. At least then maybe we'll take better care of each other by the time Earth's oceans become an empty limbo of life.
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Syrian Lannister posted:Except if you live in a poo poo hole like Illinois. No way was I voting for Hilldawg or Hair Furor. Besides IL went Hillary immediately, so I comedy optioned Harambe You should be lined up against a wall as a mercy killing because Illinois sucks.
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orange juche posted:Dealing with 4 years more years of hair furor is not the best time for an ideological purity argument. Trump's admin is actively hostile to any progressive ideas, and he's a bigly moron who will absolutely destroy this country if he is given 4 more years. However the Democratic primaries shake out, Democrats cannot afford to stay home because they got their feefees hurt that their pet candidate did not make it. They need to get out, register to vote, and then actually do so. If they're going to have a real chance at beating Trump then they're going to have to unite and motivate the party to go vote in Nov, and that's going to have to be a combination of both policy and charisma. Can't forget that record numbers of Republicans came out in the mid-terms, and Trump will likely be able to stir up his base to get to the polls in 2020 as well. Whoever ends up getting it is going to have to compromise and horse trade, but that's politics. Right now we've barely got a couple exploratory committees announced, all the current wailing and gnashing of teeth is white noise in the circle of hell that is political twitter/blogs/editorial pages. I'm not going to sweat any of it until the general primary-voting public starts to pay attention which is still months off in the future.
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orange juche posted:Dealing with 4 years more years of hair furor is not the best time for an ideological purity argument. Trump's admin is actively hostile to any progressive ideas, and he's a bigly moron who will absolutely destroy this country if he is given 4 more years. However the Democratic primaries shake out, Democrats cannot afford to stay home because they got their feefees hurt that their pet candidate did not make it. They need to get out, register to vote, and then actually do so. Boy this whole "wait" thing totally worked when white moderates were telling it to Dr. King ...or maybe it's being yelled at progressives because people innately understand that "blue no matter who" actually means "blue only if it's the corporate candidate and gently caress any actual progressives" (of which Bernie is still hella better than anyone else so far) I'm in IL so gently caress me if it actually matters but I'm not voting for anyone that doesn't at the least support rent control, universal healthcare, and student loan amnesty/free college. That is my compromise position, because my non-compromise position is murdering the rich and giving landlords the bullet while we implement full communism.
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Professor Bling posted:Boy this whole "wait" thing totally worked when white moderates were telling it to Dr. King Keep waiting for that revolution, bud.
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Handsome Ralph posted:I mean, he's not wrong. I don't disagree that she did things as a state's attorney that are disqualifying and that she should be raked over the coals for (Mnuchin's mortgage thing, declining to prosecute some crimes because the accused were wealthy, etc), but merely going "She's a cop, so..." and calling it a day is stupid as gently caress Chapo bullshit. The majority of people you need to come out and vote are gonna tune that poo poo out, you need to tell them specifics otherwise people will roll their eyes at you. Hey man, that's good and all but I was just being smarmy to Iron Rose for existing ITT. I'll leave the talking points to literally anyone else better informed than me.
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orange juche posted:Sanders is not a front runner, he is a fossil, and if bernouts vote for harambe or some stupid bullshit in protest and give us 4 more years of Hair Furor, they should be lined up against a wall and shot. im still mad i missed out on the bernie sanders electon orgy 2016.
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Professor Bling posted:I'm in IL so gently caress me if it actually matters but I'm not voting for anyone that doesn't at the least support rent control, universal healthcare, and student loan amnesty/free college. I'd never be angry at you for feeling like that, and I'm not going to be a dick and try and change your mind. Largely because that's how I feel in the UK - gently caress it, go with what you feel. I don't think it'll make a whole hell of a lot of difference to the total outcome, but who cares, you can sleep at night.
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Stultus Maximus posted:Keep waiting for that revolution, bud. Universal Healthcare, a revolutionary concept
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BLUE NO MATTER WHO the winning strategy that gave the Republican party a thousand seats in almost a decade
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Eej posted:Universal Healthcare, a revolutionary concept quote:That is my compromise position, because my non-compromise position is murdering the rich and giving landlords the bullet while we implement full communism.
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orange juche posted:Dealing with 4 years more years of hair furor is not the best time for an ideological purity argument. Trump's admin is actively hostile to any progressive ideas, and he's a bigly moron who will absolutely destroy this country if he is given 4 more years. However the Democratic primaries shake out, Democrats cannot afford to stay home because they got their feefees hurt that their pet candidate did not make it. They need to get out, register to vote, and then actually do so. Hillary 2020
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For every few of you who feel that way there is probably 20,000 who feel the same.
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Crakkerjakk posted:Sanders, sherrod brown, imo. Yeah but Sherrod Brown is crippled by being from the state that has elected the most presidents......wait.
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Eej posted:https://twitter.com/sbl1976/status/1084017808026095617 I also stare at the sun, am I healthy?!?
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Goddamn I wish I could just invent some bullshit likeTHE HUMANCHARGER to fleece these people
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Wish I could open a pharmacy next to these people and make bank selling pH strips so they can test their acid urine
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Proud Christian Mom posted:BLUE NO MATTER WHO Are people just not getting the concept of primaries as the battleground for this poo poo, not presidential elections?
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My god it's almost like I literally admitted to being rational and open to political compromise over my actual desires I guess I just didn't capitulate enough
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Professor Bling posted:My god it's almost like I literally admitted to being rational and open to political compromise over my actual desires Your actual desires are dumb fantasies so you aren't actually compromising anything, just dipping your toes in reality for a bit.
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Professor Bling posted:My god it's almost like I literally admitted to being rational and open to political compromise over my actual desires I don’t think anyone took “rational and open” from your posts
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Word has it among my Gold Star group that the latest bill to repeal the SBP-DIC offset in the House for the 116th Congress is going to drop in the next few days. Time to start getting ready for the next fight, I guess.
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I'm saying it's the godamn Manchurian candidate
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Wasabi the J posted:Duckworth pls run Well, roll
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