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Lightning Knight posted:I don’t agree with making airport security private but I do think airport security should be massively scaled back. It’s security theater, it doesn’t make us safer. Yeah keep the current list of banned items, the cockpit locks, and the TSA but scale screening back to pre 9-11 levels. Screening didn't fail on 9/11 - the hijackers used blades that were legally allowed on board.
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Liquid Communism posted:Please consider tactically registering Dem if your state has closed primaries, for one crucial reason: registered dems get to vote in primaries. This is fair! I'm pretty sure Utah dem party allows open primaries, but I'll double check. Or I'll do like my wife does and register R so she can vote in their closed primaries and actually have a voice in this stupid state.
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CelestialScribe posted:...surely the answer is to create better security, not to say "ah gently caress it" and just let anyone on a plane.
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1084633230467309569 holy gently caress, he is um, saying poo poo tonight. also the warrens seem like a happy couple.
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Easy Diff posted:A locking cabin on the aircraft and air marshals liberally scattered around US flightpaths would be more than enough, and would cost a WHOLE lot less. I'm not sure I agree the risk of someone bringing a bomb on board is as low as you think it is.
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Polyseme posted:They're pointing out that there was very little real security, and the TSA didn't do much to improve that situation. That, and most of the things you might do to "improve" security are designed to placate you, take your money, and harass people you dislike in varying proportions without necessarily making anyone safer. This for real. I'm a white guy so I've never had problems, but I know a guy of middle east ancestry who gets pulled for extra screening every *single* time he goes through. I'm sure people of minority (or poo poo, probably just women in general) here can attest to what amounts to harassment through extra screening. Think of it as sort of an extension of the way terrorism actually achieves its goals already. They don't cause the most harm from the attack itself, but from our response to the attack. We've created a system that is more or less immune to criticism that allows for systemic harassment and has marginal effectiveness. We also spend over 7 billion per year on it. CelestialScribe posted:I'm not sure I agree the risk of someone bringing a bomb on board is as low as you think it is. You realize that someone could bring a bomb into the pre-security area of an airport and kill as many or more people? Or do a truck bomb like OK city. Having a big fancy checkpoint doesn't actually make you safer.
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CelestialScribe posted:...surely the answer is to create better security, not to say "ah gently caress it" and just let anyone on a plane. Most terrorist plots that have been foiled either were foiled pre-emptively by the FBI or by the passengers on the plane itself. 9/11 was successful in part because the passengers didn’t fight back on every plane. That would never happen now.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1084633230467309569 “Full Indian garb”. Looks like a Trump is realizing the loud “build the wall” racism isn’t getting his supporters all hot and bothered so he’s now yelling through two bullhorns in a row on the racism.
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CelestialScribe posted:I'm not sure I agree the risk of someone bringing a bomb on board is as low as you think it is. Has TSA ever caught someone with a bomb?
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Thanks Maggie. That clears up part of that tweet.
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ZypherIM posted:You realize that someone could bring a bomb into the pre-security area of an airport and kill as many or more people? Or do a truck bomb like OK city. Having a big fancy checkpoint doesn't actually make you safer. That doesn't mean someone wouldn't want to try.
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Lightning Knight posted:I don’t agree with making airport security private but I do think airport security should be massively scaled back. It’s security theater, it doesn’t make us safer. For the most part the security that was in place pre 9/11 was perfectly adequate snd has been shored up by the more sensible security improvements such as blast proof cockpit doors, increased vigilance of passengers, and increased air marshals per flight. All the extra scanning bullshit doesn't do squat except give people warm fuzzies.
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For how surprising it is Trump doesn't be as blatant with racism as people expect, it's weird how he goes all in with the Native American stuff.
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A GIANT PARSNIP posted:Has TSA ever caught someone with a bomb? I have no idea. Have they? I'm not talking about TSA, I'm talking about security in general. If every airport in the world decided to get rid of airport security screening right now, if you seriously don't think a terrorist somewhere in the world saw that as an opportunity then I'm not sure what to tell you.
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A GIANT PARSNIP posted:Has TSA ever caught someone with a bomb? Nope! They even have trouble catching my eyeglasses screwdriver lol. Edit: all the bombs in recent memory have been caught by air marshals or vigilant passengers
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Ripoff posted:“Full Indian garb”. i am more amused about Wounded knee and bighorn. also i like that he is such a gross poo poo that he is mad over this. christ what a loving scrooge.
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Iirc, the last guy who managed to get a bomb on a plane was the shoe bomber guy and his plot was foiled when the passengers beat the poo poo out of him. (Again, iirc).
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bobjr posted:For how surprising it is Trump doesn't be as blatant with racism as people expect, it's weird how he goes all in with the Native American stuff. doesnt he have some really angry hatred/grudge against them because of some casino thing.
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Lightning Knight posted:Iirc, the last guy who managed to get a bomb on a plane was the shoe bomber guy and his plot was foiled when the passengers beat the poo poo out of him. (Again, iirc). If it was as easy as some people think it would have happened again by now.
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Lightning Knight posted:Iirc, the last guy who managed to get a bomb on a plane was the shoe bomber guy and his plot was foiled when the passengers beat the poo poo out of him. (Again, iirc). Was the underwearbomber before the shoe bomber? I thought he was after...
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Dapper_Swindler posted:https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1084633230467309569 Laying it on thick tonight
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CelestialScribe posted:I have no idea. Have they? If no one has made it as close as the security checkpoint with a bomb in the last 18 years, then I think you need to re-evaluate your position that a security checkpoint is needed to keep someone from trying to bring a bomb on a plane.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1084633230467309569
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Lightning Knight posted:Iirc, the last guy who managed to get a bomb on a plane was the shoe bomber guy and his plot was foiled when the passengers beat the poo poo out of him. (Again, iirc). I thought the underwear guy was the last one.
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A GIANT PARSNIP posted:If no one has made it as close as the security checkpoint with a bomb in the last 18 years, then I think you need to re-evaluate your position that a security checkpoint is needed to keep someone from trying to bring a bomb on a plane. Lol the last two made it on the loving plane!
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Furnaceface posted:I thought the underwear guy was the last one. I am not familiar with underwear guy so clearly I’m out of the loop here. Also the point about how they could just bomb the airport terminal stands. You can’t make the whole country a security checkpoint and live in fear.
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bobjr posted:For how surprising it is Trump doesn't be as blatant with racism as people expect, it's weird how he goes all in with the Native American stuff. He REALLY loving hates native Americans because they successfully blocked some of his building projects That's his entire reason. The man is a loving petty elemental
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I'm still kind of waiting for the point where Trump starts tweeting weird things one Friday night that confuses and freaks everyone out, The White House won't answer anything all weekend, and by Sunday night we just kind of figure out he's been alone binging Westworld or something.
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Lightning Knight posted:9/11 was successful in part because the passengers didn’t fight back on every plane. That would never happen now. This is an important point. It used to be that hijackings weren't "that bad" -- some jackass(es) would take the plane somewhere else, everyone on board would be terribly inconvenienced, and then it'd be solved on the ground. Now that the stakes have been raised, they'll never ever ever get a passive plane again. Ever.
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A GIANT PARSNIP posted:If no one has made it as close as the security checkpoint with a bomb in the last 18 years, then I think you need to re-evaluate your position that a security checkpoint is needed to keep someone from trying to bring a bomb on a plane. Cool, let's get rid of all security screening tomorrow. No bag screening, no X-rays, all checked baggage goes straight on the plane without being checked.
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STAC Goat posted:I'm still kind of waiting for the point where Trump starts tweeting weird things one Friday night that confuses and freaks everyone out, The White House won't answer anything all weekend, and by Sunday night we just kind of figure out he's been alone binging Westworld or something. He fast forwards the talky parts in Bloodsport, no way he can follow Westworld
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bobjr posted:For how surprising it is Trump doesn't be as blatant with racism as people expect, it's weird how he goes all in with the Native American stuff. I think its just "safe" racism when like we can't even get major sports franchises to stop calling themselves the Redskins, wearing cartoon caricatures, or do scalping war chants. Trump's got an opening so he has fun with it.
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Also there are more positions than "Keep the current system" or "let anyone do whatever the gently caress they want with zero screening" Before 9/11 your bags went through a scanner and you walked through a metal detector. No body scanners, no removal of shoes, no separate laptop bins, and anyone could go through screening and walk up to the gate.
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A GIANT PARSNIP posted:Also there are more positions than "Keep the current system" or "let anyone do whatever the gently caress they want with zero screening" The argument being made in this thread is that even that is too much security.
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Guze posted:He fast forwards the talky parts in Bloodsport, no way he's can follow Westworld I mean, I assume he'd be watching for the boobs and killing.
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Lightning Knight posted:I am not familiar with underwear guy so clearly I’m out of the loop here. It was pretty funny. Dude got burns on his junk trying to ignite the explosive device
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