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KillHour posted:I don't even think this applies. Zero people would be fooled by this. Everyone knows the difference between a Camaro and a Ferrari. Wait, I just realized - is that even a real ZL1? It has the wrong hood.
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Rhyno posted:I love that "converting" cars is still a thing. No new timing belt this month little Mazda, daddy needs some badges and a steering wheel.
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KillHour posted:Wait, I just realized - is that even a real ZL1? It has the wrong hood. There's also a Corvette badge on the front splitter.
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Dadliest Worrier posted:There's also a Corvette badge on the front splitter. Bahahahahahaha Also, it's a 45th anniversary SS. 
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Slim Pickens posted:No new timing belt this month little Mazda, daddy needs some badges and a steering wheel. Don't need to change timing belt if there's no engine *taps head meme*
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i want to rebadge my gf's prius with a lexus hybrid and ES420 emblems but for some reason that would cost more than a few fake ferrari ones
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Thief posted:https://fox40.com/2019/01/11/driver-who-crashed-while-blindfolded-was-participating-in-bird-box-challenge/ Please tell me that everyone involved has permanently lost their licenses, because what the flying gently caress is wrong with them?
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Rhyno posted:I love that "converting" cars is still a thing. Ok, I get rebadging a car as a higher-spec, luxury version, or different market equivalent, but why a Mazda to a Lexus? I can’t say I haven’t thought about putting Korean market badging on my wife’s Kia, because I like the Korean “K” better than the USDM “KIA”, but I’d never even consider badging as an Infiniti or something. Like on the Camaro, who is going to be fooled by this?
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Darchangel posted:Ok, I get rebadging a car as a higher-spec, luxury version, or different market equivalent, but why a Mazda to a Lexus? Beats the gently caress outta me, I just get alerts for P5s when they pop up.
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Not sure if I like it, seems like a bigger 86: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWsUWV7NoxA
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it looks like it is literally a rebadged Z4 which is cool if it was the new M but really weird they're making this the Supra
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The front is pish and the proportions make it look really high to me. Hmm
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Thief posted:it looks like it is literally a rebadged Z4 which is cool if it was the new M but really weird they're making this the Supra When the new Z4 was revealed, I thought it was one of the worst BMWs ever. Your post made it finally click. Burn them all.
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Honestly, supras have never really been lookers. There's also no real historical design language that says "this is what a supra should look like". They had one at Le Mans last year, and it looked decent and sufficiently sporty for its remit.
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I think the 3rd gen is the best but that's also because I'm a fan of the angular designs.
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iospace posted:I think the 3rd gen is the best but that's also because I'm a fan of the angular designs. Agreed I never could warm up to the 4th generation's styling
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iospace posted:I think the 3rd gen is the best but that's also because I'm a fan of the angular designs. Same, it’s like a Japanese Trans Am.
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iospace posted:I think the 3rd gen is the best but that's also because I'm a fan of the angular designs. Goober Peas posted:Agreed See also: Honda Prelude
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The third looks great but the 2nd gen is even better, just that extra bit beefier..
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Mk4 Supra was a bloated fat mess with a stupid spoiler. Mk5 Supra is boring as hell. It’s like a malaise-era followup.
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Colostomy Bag posted:I think the main thing is can it be boosted to 1000 HP? Insert “what do a 300hp and 1,000hp Supra have in common” joke.
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Colostomy Bag posted:I think the main thing is can it be boosted to 1000 HP? There will be a version capable of 700hp. 
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Grakkus posted:The third looks great but the 2nd gen is even better, just that extra bit beefier.. 2nd gen is where it's at. 3rd gen's saving grace is the bonnet and lights are basically the exact same as the 2nd gen, that and wide body as standard. The 2litre version had it's own specific narrow body and it looks weird.
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There is a narrow body 3rd gen too. Tax brackets make for some weird cars.
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dissss posted:There is a narrow body 3rd gen too. Tax brackets make for some weird cars. That's what I meant, I have a curvy hipped 3rd gen, seeing a skinny one in person was freaky.
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Powershift posted:There will be a version capable of 700hp. I'm not sure how stout the B58 is, but the N54 was good for 700hp on stock internals.
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Wrar posted:I'm not sure how stout the B58 is, but the N54 was good for 700hp on stock internals. Thats really pushing what 'good for' means. that level of tune severely cuts down on the life of the entire driveline. 400-450 though seems to have been a good point for perf/reliability, which is very partially supported by BMW going for 430hp on the M4. The engine also heat soaks like a motherfucker, something the M4 fixes by being dry sumped and just being better cooled overall. Supposedly since the B58 is all forged internals, closed deck as well as water-air intercooled it might be just as capable of those lofty heights, but that's yet to be clear. However its probably never going to be as crazy as 1200hp 2JZs without a lot of work. Rigged Death Trap fucked around with this message at 00:17 on Jan 14, 2019 |
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what the hell is toyota not even putting their own engines in their fun cars anymore? it's very strange for a company that is mostly known for reasonably cheap reliability. even stranger for the supra whose surviving fanbase often cares more about the engine than the actual car lol the most interesting thing that's going to happen with this is getting to see all the weird swaps people do.
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Well Toyota supplied Lotus didn't it? Boy did I flub that up.
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Thief posted:what the hell is toyota not even putting their own engines in their fun cars anymore? it's very strange for a company that is mostly known for reasonably cheap reliability. even stranger for the supra whose surviving fanbase often cares more about the engine than the actual car I think manufacturers are coming to terms with the idea that having sports cars is good for the brand, but not enough people buy them to justify the economics, so collaborations and joint platforms are the way to go. GT86/BRZ, MX-5/Fiat 124, Supra/M4... that's all I can think of for now.
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Rigged Death Trap posted:However its probably never going to be as crazy as 1200hp 2JZs without a lot of work. To be fair 2JZs aren't as crazy as 1200hp 2JZs without a lot of work either.
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Thief posted:what the hell is toyota not even putting their own engines in their fun cars anymore? Toyota asked people what the Supra should have and everyone agreed it should be a straight 6 as is tradition. ...and Toyota no longer make a straight 6 so they had to go see who still did and that was BMW hence the Toyota Machine Works SupraZ4V.
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Olympic Mathlete posted:Toyota asked people what the Supra should have and everyone agreed it should be a straight 6 as is tradition. ...and Toyota no longer make a straight 6 so they had to go see who still did and that was BMW hence the Toyota Machine Works SupraZ4V. They could have gone with Mercedes for their new mild hybrid straight 6.
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Finger Prince posted:I think manufacturers are coming to terms with the idea that having sports cars is good for the brand, but not enough people buy them to justify the economics, so collaborations and joint platforms are the way to go. GT86/BRZ, MX-5/Fiat 124, Supra/M4... that's all I can think of for now. I agree 100%; the car rags drool over sports cars and give loads of good press, but I hardly doubt that the investment is ever worth it. The GT86/BRZ is also a cautionary tale for what sports car drivers want versus what actually sells. I barely see them on the roads which is weird as hell considering it was the “it car” for magazines back in the day, not unlike what we’re seeing with the Supra now. After googling a bit for the sales figures, it looks like the FR-Z moved about 18,327 units in the US in 2013 but it has now dropped to 4,133 units in 2018. Though we may be able to blame that on Subaru and Toyota staunchly refusing to give it more power in an effort to keep it from eating WRX sales. So yeah, at least in America, you walk into the dealership excited about a sports car and walk out with a lovely lifted hatchback that grinds the door handles around corners, gets 20mpg on your commute and does pretty much nothing well. 
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Honda's EV Concept was shown at 2017's Geneva show and looked cool if slightly featureless.  Spy shots of the pre-production one have been posted and it looks nothing like it, they've ruined everything that was good about the styling. A, B, C pillars changed, 4 doors instead of two, lumpy bumpers instead of nice smooth ones, complete lack of wide arches...    https://www.carscoops.com/2019/01/n...fR7zi9qDqZS4Fp8
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