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big black turnout posted:The fact that these "socialist" liberals' theory of change revolves entirely around a Great Man Theory/presidential elections is really pretty jarring I kinda gotta hand it to Momentum, their internal organizing is top notch. They really got people thinking that anyone a little skeptical of their plan to turn DSA into an electoral machine for progressive Dems is a counter-revolutionary who wants to ban M4A. Not even the Republican Party could inoculate by projection that well.
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Tercio posted:"socialists" discounting "labor" is pretty jarring too Cool, officer. That's stupid too. You're right. I promise nobody's coming for your cop union yet. GunnerJ posted:I kinda gotta hand it to Momentum, their internal organizing is top notch. They really got people thinking that anyone a little skeptical of their plan to turn DSA into an electoral machine for progressive Dems is a counter-revolutionary who wants to ban M4A. Not even the Republican Party could inoculate by projection that well. Yeah, the choices being presented as "DSA becomes a subsidiary Our Revolution" or "DSA becomes Antifa except for Bernie Sanders campaigners instead of fascists" is a masterstroke
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does it ever get tedious, arguing who is the real liberal?
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Lightning Knight posted:does it ever get tedious, arguing who is the real liberal? Less tedious than watching this code compile tbh
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big black turnout posted:Cool, officer. That's stupid too. You're right. I promise nobody's coming for your cop union yet. lol big black turnout posted:Yeah, the choices being presented as "DSA becomes a subsidiary Our Revolution" or "DSA becomes Antifa except for Bernie Sanders campaigners instead of fascists" is a masterstroke anybody who is currently in the DSA and openly wonders why bernie is so popular in their movement is as smooth brained as they come Tercio has issued a correction as of 00:22 on Jan 15, 2019 |
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big black turnout posted:Less tedious than watching this code compile tbh fair enough. There’s a major teacher’s strike that DSA people are going to. Any of y’all participating or are we too online for that nonsense?
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Lightning Knight posted:fair enough. We're going out to support our teachers union at a school board meeting. They aren't radical enough to strike illegally though. At least not yet
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Tercio posted:One of the co-authors of the columbia falls statement was a #withher lib whose parents are dc careerists; her close friend, fellow dc chapter member, and signatory of the statement is the son of a Managing Director and the Head of Investor Relations at The Carlyle Group. His father donated thousands to the Clinton campaign. As did his son, this now up-and-coming member of Metro DC DSA. arpwel didn’t write the statement afaik
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Barry Convex posted:arpwel didn’t write the statement afaik signed it and openly endorsed it; he and marge are thick as thieves
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Lightning Knight posted:fair enough. Too not-in-California but I am buying them tacos.
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Lightning Knight posted:does it ever get tedious, arguing who is the real liberal? look at this loving liberal
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big black turnout posted:We're going out to support our teachers union at a school board meeting. They aren't radical enough to strike illegally though. At least not yet Nice. GunnerJ posted:Too not-in-California but I am buying them tacos. Is there a link where I could donate? Goon Danton posted:look at this loving liberal oh no, I am owned.
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*whips out police badge* DSA internal affairs squad! All of you cops are under arrest for being too online!
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aHEM *holds up wrecker liberal permit* out of your jurisdiction
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Lightning Knight posted:Is there a link where I could donate? Tacos for Teachers: https://wearemitu.com/food/la-teachers-strike-tacos/ Official strike fund: https://www.acceaction.org/utlastrikesolidarity
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Tercio posted:signed it and openly endorsed it; he and marge are thick as thieves this was a pathetic attempt to lasso in a Designated Thread Enemy to add weight to your accusations. you're a complete joke.
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R. Guyovich posted:this was a pathetic attempt to lasso in a Designated Thread Enemy to add weight to your accusations. you're a complete joke. question was about members of DC DSA, of which arpey is a member sorry, i'm right
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GunnerJ posted:Tacos for Teachers: https://wearemitu.com/food/la-teachers-strike-tacos/ Nice. I’ll ask my fiancé how much we can afford to donate right now.
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Lightning Knight posted:does it ever get tedious, arguing who is the real liberal? The more the left devours itself the easier it is for capitalism to maintain it's power. Therefore the status quo has an interest in stirring up infighting wherever possible. Thus it stands to reason that if you trace the argument back to the source he who smelt it was in all likelihood the very same who dealt it.
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christmas boots posted:The more the left devours itself the easier it is for capitalism to maintain it's power. Therefore the status quo has an interest in stirring up infighting wherever possible. Thus it stands to reason that if you trace the argument back to the source he who smelt it was in all likelihood the very same who dealt it. This has been my entire loving point about the Columbia Falls Statement. But the responses to that here have been a mixture of "Labor? Is that some kind of meme?" and the guy who literally refused to pay workers saying "Sorry it's good actually" so it's impossible to tell who's right or wrong here.
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:its a dumb and unnecessary statement but im not sure it warrants this big of a meltdown tbh Yeah, maybe. I guess we'll see how much play it gets at national.
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Tercio posted:This has been my entire loving point about the Columbia Falls Statement. But the responses to that here have been a mixture of "Labor? Is that some kind of meme?" and the guy who literally refused to pay workers saying "Sorry it's good actually" so it's impossible to tell who's right or wrong here. Just so we're clear, I made a fart joke.
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christmas boots posted:Just so we're clear, I made a fart joke. ah sorry jokes are usually funny, my bad
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Tercio posted:signed it and openly endorsed it; he and marge are thick as thieves Holy poo poo dude calm down please
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Tercio posted:ah sorry jokes are usually funny, my bad nice recovery
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GunnerJ posted:lmao at thinking this bland as gently caress nothing statement is some kind of psyop. there like a 30% chance these dudes are just horny for someone involved and got shot down imo
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Tercio posted:ah sorry jokes are usually funny, my bad i think you need to relax, man
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:https://twitter.com/athenogenes/status/1084977873327394817 Nobody wants Bernie 2020 to be the only focus of the organization though.
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Tercio posted:To think I (or anyone else for that matter) am suggesting that M4A and Bernie become the only focus of the DSA is asinine. quote:The primary opportunities are for us to build broad consensus around the centrality of a Bernie 2020 campaign across the organization and pass resolutions concentrating resources around this work. We will also have the opportunity to increase the amount of constructive political debate that occurs at the convention while working to win over as much of the organization as possible to our political perspective, grow the representation of people from our caucus and others from allied tendencies on the NPC as well as pass resolutions addressing some of the hyper-decentralizing tendencies in the organization. The primary challenge will be avoiding a major factional fight that could lead to a split in DSA and/or severely alienate our membership base. The other critical challenges will be limiting the damage done by resolutions that will seek to decrease the responsibilities of national DSA, decentralize power within DSA locals, and shift organizational resources toward pre-figurative and serve the people projects.  e:f,b GunnerJ has issued a correction as of 02:18 on Jan 15, 2019 |
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Tercio posted:One of the co-authors of the columbia falls statement was a #withher lib whose parents are dc careerists; her close friend, fellow dc chapter member, and signatory of the statement is the son of a Managing Director and the Head of Investor Relations at The Carlyle Group. His father donated thousands to the Clinton campaign. As did his son, this now up-and-coming member of Metro DC DSA. lol, calling one of the hardest working people in Texas a liberal because you got owned
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big black turnout posted:Nobody wants Bernie 2020 to be the only focus of the organization though. right, just M4A (Bernie 2020), electoralism (Bernie 2020) and labor (Bernie 2020)
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:https://twitter.com/athenogenes/status/1084977873327394817 Alright this is pretty hosed up. If you want to do campaign work then just say so, don't loving deceive people who are focused on doing other work. What the gently caress is wrong with Momentum? Every time their name comes up it's tied to some underhanded scummy poo poo like this.
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