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ninjoatse.cx
Apr 9, 2005

Fun Shoe
Is that what that is?!

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Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

TrilliontonNixon posted:

By 2036 apparently. Of course by then the Trump Memorial Lunar Luxury Hotel & Casino will already be built and open for business.

that seems really far away considering what they're currently capable of. i really want to see someone walk on the moon in real time in good quality and china look like the only country who care enough to do it

Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

drat, manned moon mission by 2036 and full socialism by 2050? China's future is looking bright!

The Puppet Master
Apr 9, 2005

Would you fuck me? I'd fuck me. I'd fuck me hard.



BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

these ads are all over. a lot of fools to be parted with their money to see a fascist cult do ballet for two hours and then come out of holding signs that say "evolution is an offense to the gods" and "homosexuality is an abomination"

i also think shanghai is destroyed in a tidal wave

https://twitter.com/BmtEnterprise/status/1076338057261903872

blocked in europeland, what does it say?

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

The Puppet Master posted:

blocked in europeland, what does it say?

theyre falun gong

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

you'd think Lao Tzu would be spinning, but he isn't

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/PDChina/status/1084990837400887296

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

https://twitter.com/HuXijin_GT/status/1085097996738416642

quote:

Editor-in-chief of Chinese and English editions of the Global Times | 《环球时报》总编辑

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

Fallen Hamprince posted:

theyre falun gong

There's nothing wrong with them, per se, but hiding the affiliation is pretty lmao to me. It doesn't speak too much about the anti-evolution stuff that's mentioned in the article and being charitable, it might just be a retelling of whatever creation myth they believe in.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Xelkelvos posted:

There's nothing wrong with them, per se,

:goofy:

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

CHINA!: nor is falun gong inherently bad

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

There's a recent testimonial from a guy on youtube who worked with Shen Yun and was forced to immerse himself in the whole Falun Gong mythos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAQ14AnAsmU

Typo
Aug 19, 2009

Chernigov Military Aviation Lyceum
The Fighting Slowpokes

Xelkelvos posted:

There's nothing wrong with them, per se, but hiding the affiliation is pretty lmao to me. It doesn't speak too much about the anti-evolution stuff that's mentioned in the article and being charitable, it might just be a retelling of whatever creation myth they believe in.

wtf they are literally chinese equivalent of Scientologists who tell their followers with cancer that watching videotapes with their leader in it will heal them

it's just that they keep material like that in chinese and out of view of the western public

Norton the First
Dec 4, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

Typo posted:

wtf they are literally chinese equivalent of Scientologists who tell their followers with cancer that watching videotapes with their leader in it will heal them

it's just that they keep material like that in chinese and out of view of the western public

Look, we shouldn't be so dismissive of the ancient medical wisdom of the Orient.

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer

This owns.

Does the probe have some way of getting back? Will they make ~*SPACE CLOTHES*~ with the cotton?

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Norton the First posted:

Look, we shouldn't be so dismissive of the ancient medical wisdom of the Orient.

Falun Gong was made up in 1992 by Li Hongzhi as a syncretic cult.

Typo
Aug 19, 2009

Chernigov Military Aviation Lyceum
The Fighting Slowpokes

The Puppet Master posted:

blocked in europeland, what does it say?

imagine if Scientology got taxed by the IRS

and then Scientology go to china and stages "American Broadway cultural show" in which NYC is destroyed by Xenu to punish USA government taxing Scientology

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

Typo posted:

wtf they are literally chinese equivalent of Scientologists who tell their followers with cancer that watching videotapes with their leader in it will heal them

it's just that they keep material like that in chinese and out of view of the western public

So replace videos with The Bible and you've got Christian Scientists or w/e. Dumb as poo poo, but not outside the norm. That they're really culty just pushes it to lmao levels.

I'm extremely jaded about extreme religiosity due to living in the US South and being around Evangelicals. Also my mother follows Feng Shui (and so do a lot of other Chinese apparently)

Edit: I know little about Falun Gong and originally had them somewhere in my head a little lower than Hare Krishnas. Odd, but ultimately harmless.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Xelkelvos posted:

So replace videos with The Bible and you've got Christian Scientists or w/e. Dumb as poo poo, but not outside the norm. That they're really culty just pushes it to lmao levels.

I'm extremely jaded about extreme religiosity due to living in the US South and being around Evangelicals. Also my mother follows Feng Shui (and so do a lot of other Chinese apparently)

Christian Scientists are explicitly outside the norm. What the gently caress are you talking about?

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Christian Scientists are explicitly outside the norm. What the gently caress are you talking about?

Me not knowing as much as I think I do about weird culty religious offshoots beyond them being weird and dumb and terrible and very "lol, nothing matters" about it.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Typo posted:

imagine if Scientology got taxed by the IRS

and then Scientology go to china and stages "American Broadway cultural show" in which NYC is destroyed by Xenu to punish USA government taxing Scientology

that sounds loving rad

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
ed: thought forum ate my post, it just took a bit to spit it out

Norton the First
Dec 4, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Falun Gong was made up in 1992 by Li Hongzhi as a syncretic cult.

:thejoke:

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC

Lightning Knight posted:

This owns.

Does the probe have some way of getting back? Will they make ~*SPACE CLOTHES*~ with the cotton?

It does not. A sample return mission is planned for December 2019.

Rhukatah
Feb 26, 2013

by Nyc_Tattoo

Typo posted:

imagine if Scientology got taxed by the IRS

and then Scientology go to china and stages "American Broadway cultural show" in which NYC is destroyed by Xenu to punish USA government taxing Scientology

That would rule actually

Typo
Aug 19, 2009

Chernigov Military Aviation Lyceum
The Fighting Slowpokes

Xelkelvos posted:

So replace videos with The Bible and you've got Christian Scientists or w/e. Dumb as poo poo, but not outside the norm. That they're really culty just pushes it to lmao levels.

I'm extremely jaded about extreme religiosity due to living in the US South and being around Evangelicals. Also my mother follows Feng Shui (and so do a lot of other Chinese apparently)

while all religions are superstitions against the truth of state scientific atheism, some religions are worse than others. Mainstream Christianity for example has relatively little impact on the medical health of the average practitioner, cults like Falongun directly cause death of their members and are extra bad.

Darkest Auer
Dec 30, 2006

They're silly

Ramrod XTreme

Typo posted:

while all religions are superstitions against the truth of state scientific atheism, some religions are worse than others. Mainstream Christianity for example has relatively little impact on the medical health of the average practitioner, cults like Falongun directly cause death of their members and are extra bad.

Broken clock etc.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012
I'm pretty much dismissive and jaded about most religions or weird belief systems so :shrug:

Listening to that video, and yeah, it's probably a cult, but then it's no more a cult than a bunch of Evangelical churches in the South. The only difference is that Falun Gong is centered around a personality that's mushing a bunch of new age stuff and Chinese/Buddhist mythos together into a mess and Evangelical churches are centered around a particular interpretation of the Bible. Alternatively, it's Chinese Mormonism but with ostensibly less polygamy and more new age healing bullshit.

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer

OhFunny posted:

It does not. A sample return mission is planned for December 2019.

Ah. Well that’s cool too.

I hope they make space clothes.

Typo
Aug 19, 2009

Chernigov Military Aviation Lyceum
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the fact that in China such harmful cults and superstitious like Falun Gong are swiftly suppressed for the greater well-being of the people, while in USA similar cults such as Scientology and Tele-evangelism are permitted and continue to swindle working people out of their meager savings, demonstrates once more the failures of so-called "democracy" and the superiority of the dictatorship of the proletariat.

Bip Roberts
Mar 29, 2005
battlefield earth owned

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

Typo posted:

the fact that in China such harmful cults and superstitious like Falun Gong are swiftly suppressed for the greater well-being of the people, while in USA similar cults such as Scientology and Tele-evangelism are permitted and continue to swindle working people out of their meager savings, demonstrates once more the failures of so-called "democracy" and the superiority of the dictatorship of the proletariat.

Tell me about Feng Shui. :allears:

Typo
Aug 19, 2009

Chernigov Military Aviation Lyceum
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Xelkelvos posted:

Tell me about Feng Shui. :allears:

Feng Shui is superstition contrary to the truth of scientific atheism, however, the worst it does is to make superstition believing people want to buy really lovely and overpriced real estate and thus leaving better real-estate at lower prices for orthodox party-line believers to purchase.

It makes money go from stupid people to smarter people as you would say

The Great Autismo!
Mar 3, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

Typo posted:

Feng Shui is superstition contrary to the truth of scientific atheism, however, the worst it does is to make superstition believing people want to buy really lovely and overpriced real estate and thus leaving better real-estate at lower prices for orthodox party-line believers to purchase.

It makes money go from stupid people to smarter people as you would say

lol

Typo
Aug 19, 2009

Chernigov Military Aviation Lyceum
The Fighting Slowpokes
haha read this review of shen yun fa lun gong propaganda:


Typo has issued a correction as of 18:21 on Jan 15, 2019

Typo
Aug 19, 2009

Chernigov Military Aviation Lyceum
The Fighting Slowpokes
The show is marketed as a celebration of Chinese culture, some parts seemed alright. The costumes are bright and colorful. The dancing was fun.

But a large part of the show is propaganda for a cult called Falun Dafa (from what I've read, the group is anti-gay, they believe their religion can heal illnesses, and one leader is on record saying they don't believe mixed-race children will get to heaven... sound familiar?).

Here's just a little taste of the unexpected weirdness. After finishing a dance featuring some long, twirly, Han-dynasty sleeves (pretty cool), the person introducing the next piece talks a bit about persecution in China and you move to a dance with this scene: a man is imprisoned and blinded by the evil prison doctor when he won't renounce his faith in Falun Dafa. The blind man's wife and other clean-cut Falun Dafa friends are still preaching in the park when he returns, tapping away with his cane. When they realize that he has stayed faithful this whole time, he is suddenly visited by a bunch of angels and receives his sight again! Yay! Falun Dafa is good!

So bizarre.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
No, don't waste your money. It's not worth it. I was unfortunate enough to fall for the commercials and endless posters and advertisements, and it was.... a bizarre and strange night.

About 1/3 of the performances consisted of women in colorful dresses with big sleeves swishing around in almost identical dances--visually pretty but nothing spectacular or interesting about them. If you've seen the commercials, then you've seen all there is to know about the dances. It's worth noting that the big colorful screen in the videos is quite pixelated and somewhat dingy in the actual show. Another 1/3 consisted of propaganda dance-performances talking about the suppression of the Falun Gong religion, including "comedic" skits where the Falun Gong practitioners triumph over the caricature Red Guards with the power of their religion, as well as "emotional" performances with beatings and arrests. The rest were a combination of some actually interesting performances using props (fans, drums, ribbons) and then 2 very... very... horrible "opera" performances, which were sung in Chinese with subtitles projected overhead. The lyrics included such gems as "Interracial marriage is against nature," "Atheism is the devil's tool," "Homosexuality will destroy the world." The show ended with a triumph of the formerly oppressed Falun Gong characters over the Red Guards, who saw the error of their ways and joined them, with the Falun Gong practitioners holding up a sign that said FALUN GONG IS THE ONLY TRUE RELIGION at the end.

Not worth $80 or even $20.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpn_fZY01-k&t=3022s

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

The lie Falun Gong tells about the Chinese government targeting Falun Dafa practitioners because their bodies are extra healthy so they can sell their organs on the black market, is something I see repeated in the wild by libertarians. I don't think they even know where it comes from.

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Kurnugia
Sep 2, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

Typo posted:

the fact that in China such harmful cults and superstitious like Falun Gong are swiftly suppressed for the greater well-being of the people, while in USA similar cults such as Scientology and Tele-evangelism are permitted and continue to swindle working people out of their meager savings, demonstrates once more the failures of so-called "democracy" and the superiority of the dictatorship of the proletariat.

the gimmick doesn't work if you keep switching between mocking tankies and posting things that are unironically good about china

e: actually, it does work.

Kurnugia has issued a correction as of 18:55 on Jan 15, 2019

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