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I remember hearing years ago that LSD is incredibly difficult to make and that very few people can make it. I read a story about how a major US maker got busted and that pretty much killed the US supply for quite some time. I think this was in the 90s.
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Waltzing Along posted:I remember hearing years ago that LSD is incredibly difficult to make and that very few people can make it. I read a story about how a major US maker got busted and that pretty much killed the US supply for quite some time. I think this was in the 90s. Its been bath salts from street dealers ever since, thanks DEA. To tie it all back together one of Silk Road's claims to fame was that the acid sellers were occasionally selling real acid. EorayMel posted:That's some genuine alchemy poo poo right there.
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Raspberry Jam It In Me posted:Why is heroin so hard to synthesise, compared to fentanyl? (Same for cocaine, compared to amphetamines) A century+ of making all the precursors as tightly controlled as the drugs themselves. In the unlikely event that fentalogues don't completely push agricultural heroin out of the market I expect the next big thing for both heroin and cocaine to be recombinant GM algae that produce the active compounds without all the big footprint big visibility farms. shame on an IGA fucked around with this message at 18:35 on Jan 13, 2019 |
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Waltzing Along posted:I remember hearing years ago that LSD is incredibly difficult to make and that very few people can make it. I read a story about how a major US maker got busted and that pretty much killed the US supply for quite some time. I think this was in the 90s. This is true but LSD is active in the micrograms like fentanyl, so if you do manage to put together a small field of heirloom rye, infect it with ergot and bring it to harvest without your farmer neighbors noticing the obvious infestation, you might have enough ergot to supply the whole planet for a few months.
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Isn’t 1P-LSD much easier to make/get (given that it’s uncontrolled in Canada), and a pretty good substitute?
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Subjunctive posted:Isn’t 1P-LSD much easier to make/get (given that it’s uncontrolled in Canada), and a pretty good substitute? Yeah, that's the other side to the LSD thing. Research chem psychedelics of excellent quality have been available for 15+ years now, so being a stickler for getting proper LSD is really only for people who want an authentic Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test experience.
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Jan 13, 2019 19:38
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I really enjoy that the Fentanyl salesman brings up the federal crime of stealing mail lol.
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Raspberry Jam It In Me posted:Why is heroin so hard to synthesise, compared to fentanyl? (Same for cocaine, compared to amphetamines) Why bother? Heroin and cocaine can be used directly from the botanical. You can straight-up chew coca leaves, make poppy tea, etc. Halfway through the conversation about setting up what you need to synthesize it someone speaks up and says, "you know people with stone-age technology just grow this, right?"
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Jan 14, 2019 19:52
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Not a pyramid scheme
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Jan 14, 2019 20:09
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theyve took the gene from coca plants and put it in bacteria before seems the best route longterm all about sustainable environmentalism with my cocaine
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gary oldmans diary posted:theyve took the gene from coca plants and put it in bacteria before What happens to all the men and women who worked the coca fields and the processing facilities to feed their families? Are they all going to become bacteria ranchers? I don’t think so. Privileged-rear end white people, always concerned about the “environment” with no thought for the people whose jobs they are destroying.
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gary oldmans diary posted:theyve took the gene from coca plants and put it in bacteria before yeah because growing plants isn't sustainable (???)
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Veni Vidi Ameche! posted:What happens to all the men and women who worked the coca fields and the processing facilities to feed their families? Are they all going to become bacteria ranchers? I don’t think so. Privileged-rear end white people, always concerned about the “environment” with no thought for the people whose jobs they are destroying. they can become coal miners
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UCS Hellmaker posted:Might be because there is already legal manufacturing processes to make fent and amphetamines because they have medical uses, which are easier to steal and do on the black market. Cocaine and heroin have been illegal across most of the world for most of a century (?) and that made it harder to make a more streamlined process to manufacturer in large scale compared to the processes that are just stolen from medical stuff.
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revwinnebago posted:Why bother? It's not the same, though. Heroin/cocaine are both more addictive and abusable than their natural counterparts. It mostly comes down to enabling faster routes of administration- the fastest RoA for pre-columbian cocaine would have been chewing the leaves or making tea, and you'd have to do this all day to maintain a caffeine-esque buzz. There was no history or culture of coca addiction before cocaine. Snorting, smoking and injecting are all faster routes of administration, which makes it much more fun and more addictive. Morphine is to opium as cocaine is to coca, and heroin is even better because after it does its thing it metabolizes into morphine and does it again. The escalation from heroin to fentanyl is really just the next step in a process that's been ongoing for thousands of years, since the first humans upgraded from poppy tea to smokable latex. Khorne posted:Heroin is or was used as a pain killer at some hospitals. It's not very different from morphine or fentanyl in terms of outcomes if I remember correctly. Heroin is actually the odd one out, in that it's schedule 1 and has no accepted medical use in the US. This is in contrast to methamphetamine, which can still be prescribed for ADHD under the name desoxyn (at a tiny, tiny dose) and cocaine, which is used as topical anesthesia for eye surgery. poverty goat fucked around with this message at 15:19 on Jan 15, 2019 |
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The fact that no plants produce amphetamine naturally is proof that we live in a cold and uncaring universe.
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Norton the First posted:The fact that no plants produce amphetamine naturally is proof that we live in a cold and uncaring universe. Would like to smoke GMO tobacco where the nicotine has been replaced with amphetamine with you.
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Norton the First posted:The fact that no plants produce amphetamine naturally is proof that we live in a cold and uncaring universe. Ephedra (plant) I mean, it's not meth, but it's a precursor to it. And makes you all jittery so that's something.
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With regard to Fentanyl, it is not that the drug is incredibly lethal if dosed properly- as several have said here it is regularly used in clinical situations. The trouble becomes the mail-order sources of the drugs; they are often Russian or Chinese plants with little regard to purity or concise measurement. In some instances buyers are being sent (or inadvertently ordering) Carfentanil which is typically used in veterinary applications and is dramatically more so potent. In my anecdotal experience of living in an area in the heat of a heroin epidemic it seems the majority of deaths blamed on Fentanyl later wind up attributed to Carfentanil.quote:In August 2016, there were 52 deaths in Cleveland, Ohio, some of which involved carfentanil. Akron experienced 24 carfentanil overdoses in one day; in the month of July 2016, there were 230 carfentanil overdoses in Akron, 14 of which were deadly. Kentucky, Indiana, and West Virginia also reported spikes in carfentanil-related overdoses during that time. By April 2017, carfentanil deaths had been reported in Colorado, South Carolina, North Carolina, Florida, Illinois, Missouri, New Hampshire, Maryland, and New York. By the end of 2016, law enforcement reportedly identified carfentanil in 451 cases.
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Didn't the spetznaz kill a bunch of hostages with Fentanyl gas a couple of years ago
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feelix posted:Didn't the spetznaz kill a bunch of hostages with Fentanyl gas a couple of years ago Carfentanil but yes
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TVsVeryOwn posted:Would like to smoke GMO tobacco where the nicotine has been replaced with amphetamine with you. We can dream.
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By popular demand posted:stop this reality I want to get off. so do they 
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Gay Weed Dad posted:With regard to Fentanyl, it is not that the drug is incredibly lethal if dosed properly- as several have said here it is regularly used in clinical situations. The trouble becomes the mail-order sources of the drugs; they are often Russian or Chinese plants with little regard to purity or concise measurement. In some instances buyers are being sent (or inadvertently ordering) Carfentanil which is typically used in veterinary applications and is dramatically more so potent. In my anecdotal experience of living in an area in the heat of a heroin epidemic it seems the majority of deaths blamed on Fentanyl later wind up attributed to Carfentanil. In Vancouver, about a hundred people die every month from fentanyl. It has basically replaced heroine as a street drug. Probably some of that is carfentanil, but from what I've been told (by people who work in the local CDC) it's mainly fentanyl. It's bad enough that naloxone kits have become ubiquitous at raves and festivals. It's not uncommon for other party drugs to get cross-contaminated, and it takes just a speck of fentanyl, and even less of carfentantil, to cause an overdose in someone not habituated to opiates.
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Lead out in cuffs posted:It's bad enough that naloxone kits have become ubiquitous at raves and festivals. Is the reasoning that the presence of naloxone is causing people to be less cautious?
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Heath posted:Is the reasoning that the presence of naloxone is causing people to be less cautious? I think he means the fentanyl situation is bad enough that naloxone is becoming common.
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QuarkJets posted:yeah because growing plants isn't sustainable (???)
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If I see another post about drugs on this page, I'm gonna make bcoin jump to 10k by midnight. Warning issued.
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moolchaba posted:If I see another post about drugs on this page, I'm gonna make bcoin jump to 10k by midnight. But bitcoin was already gong to go to 10k by midnight
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moolchaba posted:If I see another post about drugs on this page, I'm gonna make bcoin jump to 10k by midnight. If it hits 10k by midnight I'll make sure it hits 20k, we're going to the moon, to get drugs with bitcoins
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moolchaba posted:If I see another post about drugs on this page, I'm gonna make bcoin jump to 10k by midnight. i paid 50btc for magic mushrooms in japan but when i opened the bag it was just eryngiis
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The White Dragon posted:i paid 50btc for magic mushrooms in japan but when i opened the bag it was just eryngiis Funguscoin
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That goon never came back and told us if he actually got his money did he?
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Mimesweeper posted:I think he means the fentanyl situation is bad enough that naloxone is becoming common. Yes, this. It is generally not good when people die at the party you are organizing/volunteering for. Lots of people carry the kits, have them hanging up in visible places, and are trained to administer them.
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TheBizzness posted:That goon never came back and told us if he actually got his money did he? No because he was only able to get in the form of fentanyl which promptly killed him.
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Thought you guys might like this, playing games on a mining only GPU (that doesn't have a video output port). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TY4s35uULg4
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:Thought you guys might like this, playing games on a mining only GPU (that doesn't have a video output port).
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:Thought you guys might like this, playing games on a mining only GPU (that doesn't have a video output port). let's use an exploit to install unsigned drivers from anons on the internet
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