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I was thinking today about how the hype cycle for the ST is a lot like it was for the PT. First movie, everybody just wants more Star Wars because it's been so long but we leave vaguely disappointed. Second movie, everyone thinks they've identified the offending elements from the first one and fixed them (Anakin's age and Jar Jar in TPM, excessive pandering and hack director in TFA) but it ends up being even less enjoyable than the first one in spite of a few cool visuals/ideas. The hype for episode III was that it's the best one of the trilogy and some of the magic is finally back. So if some guy starts saying that to you about IX be skeptical
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# ? Jan 16, 2019 00:41 |
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Its Coke posted:The hype for episode III was that it's the best one of the trilogy and some of the magic is finally back. So if some guy starts saying that to you about IX be skeptical Before it was released, you mean? The hype for Episode III, at least as I remember it, was very heavily based around Darth Vader showing up in the suit.
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# ? Jan 16, 2019 00:43 |
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Episode 3 is the best one of the series, actually
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# ? Jan 16, 2019 00:44 |
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Wheat Loaf posted:Before it was released, you mean? The hype for Episode III, at least as I remember it, was very heavily based around Darth Vader showing up in the suit. I'm not differentiating between pre-release and early release but yeah that was also part of it. I just don't think it could apply to ep IX because they already blew their wad with almost every classic character. And who wants to see a version of Lando who's balding and dick doesn't work
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# ? Jan 16, 2019 00:46 |
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I want to see baron harkonnen lando but the cowards will just have him sitting down in all his scenes instead
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# ? Jan 16, 2019 00:48 |
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The only Star Wars character I give a poo poo about seeing again is TR-8R and I'm actually a little afraid Abrams' nerd pandering sense is so good he'll do it
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# ? Jan 16, 2019 00:49 |
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Episode III had the cleverest trick, i.e. its title. It is called "Revenge of the Sith" but there are no real, actual Sith in it because Palpatine is just pretending to be a Sith. He was tricking everyone and the audience was no exception (unless they were intelligent enough to recognise the deception).
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# ? Jan 16, 2019 00:50 |
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God it'd be tight if TR-8R had an artificial heart put in after he was shot there and you could see it on his new stormtrooper suit. Star Wolf style comeback
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# ? Jan 16, 2019 00:56 |
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General Dog posted:The sexual tension between them is absolutely present and unsubtle though. Which makes it a bit unfortunate that their first encounter when he interrogates her in TFA plays a little, uhh, rapey. Like, he tries to mind rape her and then she demeans him for his inability to get a mind boner, and that's what kicks off this really intense relationship where she's convinced she can save him. There's no way that the rape-y subtext wasn't intended. It's not even terribly shocking, since using magic to force (har har) your way into someone's mind is analogous to rape. It's not much more literal than Luke's lightsaber being an erection when he almost kills Ben, though. (The subtext there is that Luke's repressed sexuality manifests itself, as with Leia, as incestuous desire; Luke is a bi vocel). McSpanky posted:Where can I rate your ST vs SW fanfic In our dreams, friend... in our dreams. Wheat Loaf posted:I think the Federation is much less protectionist than the Republic, so it is automatically better. I mean, it isn't protectionist, per se...
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# ? Jan 16, 2019 04:10 |
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Hodgepodge posted:There's no way that the rape-y subtext wasn't intended. It's not even terribly shocking, since using magic to force (har har) your way into someone's mind is analogous to rape. Yeah I don’t think that subtext is a mistake either, but I’m not sure if anyone fully considered how that scene meshed with where the relationship between the two goes in TLJ.
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# ? Jan 16, 2019 06:18 |
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Hodgepodge posted:There's no way that the rape-y subtext wasn't intended. It's not even terribly shocking, since using magic to force (har har) your way into someone's mind is analogous to rape. It's not much more literal than Luke's lightsaber being an erection when he almost kills Ben, though. (The subtext there is that Luke's repressed sexuality manifests itself, as with Leia, as incestuous desire; Luke is a bi vocel). That took a turn
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# ? Jan 16, 2019 06:25 |
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Wheat Loaf posted:I think the Federation is much less protectionist than the Republic, so it is automatically better. This is such a weird gimmick
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# ? Jan 16, 2019 06:56 |
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Wheat Loaf posted:Episode III had the cleverest trick, i.e. its title. It is called "Revenge of the Sith" but there are no real, actual Sith in it because Palpatine is just pretending to be a Sith. He was tricking everyone and the audience was no exception (unless they were intelligent enough to recognise the deception). My immediate reaction is to reject this assertion as you pulling it out of your sarlacc, and this reading is not borne out of the movie. But I'll bite. What makes you think Sheevs is cosplaying as a sith?
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McCloud posted:My immediate reaction is to reject this assertion as you pulling it out of your sarlacc, and this reading is not borne out of the movie. But I'll bite. What have you done?
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# ? Jan 16, 2019 15:40 |
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thrawn527 posted:What have you done? I pulled a Jar Jar and stepped in to the doo doo ofc
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# ? Jan 16, 2019 15:44 |
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This thread is broken and irredeemable.
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# ? Jan 16, 2019 18:15 |
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It's trash and serves no purpose. No one loving cares about Star Wars spoilers.
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# ? Jan 16, 2019 18:32 |
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We should really just post the infrequent "JJ has thrown his friend Greg Grunberg another bone" and "No poo poo, they paper over there only being ten rebels left at the end of TLJ" bits of news in the main thread and probate anybody who complains.
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# ? Jan 16, 2019 19:05 |
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Mameluke posted:We should really just post the infrequent "JJ has thrown his friend Greg Grunberg another bone" and "No poo poo, they paper over there only being ten rebels left at the end of TLJ" bits of news in the main thread and probate anybody who complains. Post fake spoilers too so they don't know what the gently caress is going on
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# ? Jan 16, 2019 19:35 |
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I can't believe Darth Maul's Legs are the ultimate villain of Kenobi: A Star Wars Story
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# ? Jan 16, 2019 19:36 |
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McCloud posted:My immediate reaction is to reject this assertion as you pulling it out of your sarlacc, and this reading is not borne out of the movie. But I'll bite. I explained it at some length in the main thread but you might have missed it. I shall collate them below. quote:It occurred to me earlier that "Darth Plagueis" never existed because Palpatine was bullshitting Anakin the entire time. I am not sure why I have not realised this before; "Darth Plagueis" is a deliberately ridiculous name. Might as well have asked, "Have you ever heard the legend of Darth Verybadguy the Evil?" Maybe it's because it's such an obvious lie that I took it at face value. Likewise, it is more than likely that Palpatine had no master; he discovered that he had the Force and dusted off the trappings of an ancient religion as a kind of burlesque. quote:
quote:That bit where he's like, "Henceforth, you shall be known as Darth... Vader!" In the pause there before he says Vader, he was probably trying to remember all the options he'd brainstormed in the Excel spreadsheet he was working on before Mace Windu interrupted him. quote:
quote:The only Force user who has truly achieved self-actualisation is Palpatine, who is neither Jedi nor Sith (although he is wearing the clothes of the latter).
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# ? Jan 16, 2019 19:49 |
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... Palpatine literally talks about and uses Sith teachings and practices Saying he's not a Sith is like saying Rey's a Jedi
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# ? Jan 16, 2019 20:09 |
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Vinylshadow posted:... Rey is a Jedi. Did you not watch the end of the film?
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# ? Jan 16, 2019 20:28 |
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Rey's even more of a cargo cult jedi than luke and that's saying a lot
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# ? Jan 16, 2019 20:32 |
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Maybe it'll make more sense on screen as opposed to the written page but these script leaks of Kylo lurking in corners of Starkiller II yelling "just try and jack me off" seem a little tonally off
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# ? Jan 16, 2019 20:38 |
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Ingmar terdman posted:Maybe it'll make more sense on screen as opposed to the written page but these script leaks of Kylo lurking in corners of Starkiller II yelling "just try and jack me off" seem a little tonally off This will make more sense on screen when the Jizz Wailers make their clearly telegraphed return.
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# ? Jan 16, 2019 20:42 |
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Vinylshadow posted:Palpatine literally talks about and uses Sith teachings and practices The only time he ever says anything about the "Sith" is when he has an audience so his truthfulness is deeply suspect.
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# ? Jan 16, 2019 20:42 |
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Ingmar terdman posted:Maybe it'll make more sense on screen as opposed to the written page but these script leaks of Kylo lurking in corners of Starkiller II yelling "just try and jack me off" seem a little tonally off wait what
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# ? Jan 16, 2019 20:47 |
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Preston Waters posted:Rey is a Jedi. Did you not watch the end of the film? Not a classical Jedi We'll need to rebrand
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# ? Jan 16, 2019 21:05 |
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Vinylshadow posted:Not a classical Jedi The classical jedis were loving retards though
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# ? Jan 16, 2019 21:10 |
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Preston Waters posted:The classical jedis were loving retards though That says a lot about Rey's future, doesn't it? Or is she gonna read THE SACRED TEXTS and then do everything the complete opposite so as not to fall into the same pt they did?
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# ? Jan 16, 2019 21:20 |
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Rey will do precisely as well as the next lazy script requires, and precisely as badly as the lazy script after that requires
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# ? Jan 16, 2019 21:24 |
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No Mods No Masters posted:Rey will do precisely as well as the next lazy script requires, and precisely as badly as the lazy script after that requires The second half of your sentence is potentially wrong because I'm pretty sure Daisy Ridley's said she's not interested in doing any more Star Wars after IX (at least for a while - I believe she said she might be interested in doing what Ford, Fisher and Hamill did and going back to the role in 30 years' time).
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# ? Jan 16, 2019 21:27 |
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Yeah no, I'm not really sold on that, Wheat. Your evidence is very circumstantial, I'm gonna go ahead and say you're wrong.
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# ? Jan 16, 2019 21:31 |
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Whether or not she's actually in it, I'm sure she will have abdicated/fallen/failed/disappeared as necessary for the jedi to be on the verge of extinction and the off-brand empire to be ascendant in star wars 10
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# ? Jan 16, 2019 21:38 |
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Wheat Loaf posted:The second half of your sentence is potentially wrong because I'm pretty sure Daisy Ridley's said she's not interested in doing any more Star Wars after IX (at least for a while - I believe she said she might be interested in doing what Ford, Fisher and Hamill did and going back to the role in 30 years' time). I know it's a long way down the road but it's difficult for me to imagine any of the current cast mattering at all to whatever star wars movies are being made in thirty years.
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# ? Jan 16, 2019 21:38 |
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McCloud posted:Yeah no, I'm not really sold on that, Wheat. Your evidence is very circumstantial, I'm gonna go ahead and say you're wrong. Well, I'm not really sure now. It's a couple of years old but here's a news article which reported that she would quit after IX: https://variety.com/2017/film/news/daisy-ridley-star-wars-no-more-after-episode-9-1202627235/ But then here's one from a few days later which says the first report was mistaken: https://www.slashfilm.com/daisy-ridley-doesnt-want-to-leave-star-wars/ I think it is most likely that the first one is accurate and she does intend to leave, but decided to make the second statement (probably at the request of Lucasfilm, who as we know are very careful about publicity) to avoid dampening pre-release anticipation for TLJ.
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# ? Jan 16, 2019 21:39 |
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Just give me loving “No, you are my father!” already gently caress
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# ? Jan 16, 2019 22:17 |
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George H.W. oval office posted:Just give me loving “No, you are my father!” already gently caress -Rey to Kylo, after they already hosed. Gotta get that GoT audience hook in
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# ? May 25, 2024 13:58 |
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Anakin Skywalker and the Church of Latter Day Jedi
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