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SilvergunSuperman posted:press1 Again: it's not about the individual level. It's a way of notating the concept of "in a full game run, this method does not add an A-button press, but you do have to press the A button once if you're only running this single level." The guy says in his own video that, if you're running just that level alone, you have to press the A button, because you have to both press it down and release it. You're pressing the button. He makes the distinction because, if you're running the full game, you have already pressed the A button from a previous level and have just been holding onto it so you can release it in this level. That's one press, no matter how long you hold the button down. A "half press" in this case means: "This way of playing this level will not add an A-button press to your full game run because you can leave the button held down from a previous A-button press." It's just a way of notating that concept. If you run that level on its own, it counts as a full press, because you have to press the button and release it; if you run the full game, you don't have to re-press the button. That's all it means. In other words:
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Its an extremely simple concept and anyone who argues about it is either completely unwilling to read your explaination, looking to get into an internet fight, or a pendant of the highest order
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Jan 16, 2019 20:49
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You can't have half a press you moron. If you take half away it's called a hotplate.
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Jan 16, 2019 20:49
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Meme Emulator posted:Its an extremely simple concept and anyone who argues about it is either completely unwilling to read your explaination, looking to get into an internet fight, or a pendant of the highest order To be fair, that original video introduces the concept poorly, because he spends so much time breaking down a button press into its three components. It looks like he's trying to redefine a "button press" to score points on a technicality. What he's actually doing is setting up a visual aid for the real explanation, but lots of people in this thread didn't watch past that part apparently.
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Jan 16, 2019 20:59
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Harrow posted:To be fair, that original video introduces the concept poorly, because he spends so much time breaking down a button press into its three components. It looks like he's trying to redefine a "button press" to score points on a technicality. What he's actually doing is setting up a visual aid for the real explanation, but lots of people in this thread didn't watch past that part apparently. Isn't it almost a twelve-minute video? Less is more.
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Jan 16, 2019 21:02
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The White Dragon posted:Isn't it an eleven-minute video? Less is more. Yeah, but the explanation of what the half-A button press means is the first three minutes or so. After that it's just about how you finish the level that way. I think, unless we're talking about different videos. It's still poorly presented, though.
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Jan 16, 2019 21:03
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People understand the distinction between holding the button and pressing and releasing it, but calling it a half press is still wrong.
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Jan 16, 2019 21:06
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SilvergunSuperman posted:press1 it's just a bit of shorthand to denote not releasing the button during a level transition, he's not saying that he actually half-pressed a button
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Jan 16, 2019 21:10
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As I understood it he was trying to do some weird rules lawyering to win a truly stupid challenge. Otherwise you'd say hold the button like a normal person.
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Jan 16, 2019 21:12
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SilvergunSuperman posted:As I understood it he was trying to do some weird rules lawyering to win a truly stupid challenge. Nah, if he was doing that he'd call it a straight zero press level, because the only literal press happened prior to entering the level so one could easily argue it's zero for the purpose of the level. What he did is both more intellectually and academically honest and objectively correct.
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Jan 16, 2019 21:16
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SilvergunSuperman posted:As I understood it he was trying to do some weird rules lawyering to win a truly stupid challenge. It's not about rules lawyering. It's about discussing a method of running a level that does not add a button press to a full-game run, but would require a button press if you only ran that level. Like, here are two scenarios. In the first scenario, I'm running through the full game.
In the second scenario, I'm only playing level 2. I'm not playing level 1 first.
I used the same method to play through level 2 in both scenarios. In a full game, level 2 does not add another button press to my run (so my total number of button presses after levels 1 and 2 is still 1 press), but if I'm only running level 2, I do have to press the button. So this is a method of running level 2 that is +0 button presses in a full game and +1 button press if it's just that level. Calling that a "half-press" is as good a term as any. In the video, he even says that if you're running the level on its own, you have to press the button once--he isn't trying to claim he only pressed it 0.5 times. He's just showing how he did that level in a way that didn't add another button press to a full-game run, even if it did require holding down the button from a previous time he pressed it.
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Jan 16, 2019 21:18
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Harrow posted:Again: it's not about the individual level. It's a way of notating the concept of "in a full game run, this method does not add an A-button press, but you do have to press the A button once if you're only running this single level."  Also this is taking away from the fact that he kited some game AI to make an enemy glitch into flight, then accelerated Mario fast enough to slingshot across four quadrants of collusion detection outside the bounds of the memory registry, then back again to bounce off the enemy and get a star, in order to avoid pressing A one more time.
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Jan 16, 2019 21:26
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Sodomy Hussein posted:VR has great potential but is still very underdeveloped and I would not currently buy in at any level. It's still mostly rhythm and hidden object games. The best VR game right now is Elite Dangerous.
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Jan 16, 2019 21:34
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poisonpill posted:
Hey, if you want to run Mario 64 with the absolute minimum number of A-button presses, you gotta do some weird poo poo. I understand speedrunning a lot more than I understand this kind of run and I'd still never even briefly consider doing either.
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Jan 16, 2019 21:38
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Icochet posted:Can I use this as the opening sentence of my novel? In my younger and more vulnerable years my father gave me some advice that I've been turning over in my mind ever since. It's actually pretty important to distinguish between the A button being PRESSED and the A button being HELD.
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Jan 16, 2019 21:52
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Meme Emulator posted:Its an extremely simple concept and anyone who argues about it is either completely unwilling to read your explaination, looking to get into an internet fight, or a pendant of the highest order ACTually the word is "pedant"
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Jan 16, 2019 21:53
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Meme Emulator posted:This is a pretty bare bones philosphical question considering releasing the A button does nothing, except being a prerequisite for inputting another press. My man, familiarize yourself with negative-edging.
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Jan 16, 2019 22:04
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poisonpill posted:
Doesn't charging up speed also take a day of time if run at normal game speed. Making the whole ordeal no go on an n64.
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Jan 16, 2019 22:04
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Pokemon is and has always been a bad game for babies.
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Jan 16, 2019 22:09
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lots of games are bad for babies tbh
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Jan 16, 2019 23:10
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Waltzing Along posted:Pokemon is and has always been a bad game for babies. actually gen 1 was a good game for babies
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Jan 16, 2019 23:28
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i remember, as a baby, playing gen 1 and being like, "This game is the best, its so good, gotta catch em all, karate chop em machop you beefy little beast" if you didn't start on gen 1 on release you don't really actually understand pokemon
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Jan 16, 2019 23:37
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Icochet posted:Can I use this as the opening sentence of my novel? Ask the autistic dude. I just copied all the sperg text from his video descriptions. Except for the dumbass nuggetmeals thing. That was mine 
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Jan 16, 2019 23:38
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it owns that they made 150 pokemon and were like "u gotta catch em all!!!!!" then 2 years later they come back like loan sharks. "now its 300." 2 years after that "now its 450." whats it up to now. 9000?????
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Jan 16, 2019 23:41
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i looked at the new pokemon in silver and gold and went "I ain't catching these dumbass new pokemon, they all look like poo poo" and nowdays 15 years later it seems like they're all basically lil mean anime men
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Jan 16, 2019 23:49
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Anything past gold/silver are just bullshit pokemon. I've seen some of the ones from later gens and it's pretty clear they ran out of ideas hard.
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Jan 16, 2019 23:52
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the gen 3 games are the best
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Waltzing Along posted:30 FPS is fine.
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Jan 17, 2019 01:07
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Pokemon games should be set about 1000 years apart and thanks to invasive species due to pokemon trainers letting their critters run free, the original batch went almost extinct and were replaced by new hybrids that rule the countryside. Your job is to hunt them down and make THEM extinct so that the originals can be reintroduced to the wild. It turns out Ash Ketchem and all his friends were the REAL monsters, after all.
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Jan 17, 2019 05:49
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That was never in question, they're all young slavemasters.
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Jan 17, 2019 05:56
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Ain't nothing wrong with 30 fps depending on the genre. Some genres like action games, racers and shooters most definitely benefit from a higher frame rate though. A solid 30 fps is still fine and dandy. What gets me more is constant stutter and drops like in bloodborne. That poo poo threw me off and led to a ton of deaths.
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Caesar Saladin posted:if you didn't start on gen 1 on release you don't really actually understand pokemon Agreed. If you weren't a kid in 1999, you could never hope to understand.
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Jan 17, 2019 07:34
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wheres the digimon vs pokemon crossover game
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ChazTurbo posted:Ain't nothing wrong with 30 fps depending on the genre. Some genres like action games, racers and shooters most definitely benefit from a higher frame rate though. A solid 30 fps is still fine and dandy. What gets me more is constant stutter and drops like in bloodborne. That poo poo threw me off and led to a ton of deaths. I always thought 30 was the benchmark for good enough, but then again I'll still watch a vhs.
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Absolutely nothing about Pokemon has ever been remotely appealing to me since its inception. I don't get it at all. Maybe I'm just a couple of years to old to have any nostalgia for it, since I was like 16 when it first released. In my mind it's always just been some random anime poo poo that Nintendo added to their roster that doesn't ft in at all.
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Jan 17, 2019 07:58
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It was definitely aimed at the middleschool crowd, not getting Pokemon at 16 is a natural, healthy thing.
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Jan 17, 2019 08:05
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jimmyjams posted:wheres the digimon vs pokemon crossover game I think digimon turning into colossal monsters every battle would a bit unfair. Pikachu used tail ship. Agumon turned into a t. Rex.
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Jan 17, 2019 08:22
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I was in middle school when pokemon red and blue came out and it was cool because it was a large, well-designed JRPG with some new ideas that made it a good deal more addicting than the classic JRPG. And it had loving multiplayer, it was the only game that I ever saw anyone bother pulling out one of those little link cables. Also the protagonist was like 12 years old but is given the same level of respect as an adult, that's pretty cool when you're a 12 year-old dealing with adults who are constantly being assholes
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Jan 17, 2019 08:25
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Dragonball Z was the Pokemon of my generation, only good and cool
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I was also in middle school when gen 1 came out and was lucky enough that one of my classmates had the opposite color cartridge, we traded all the required mons to each other to complete our pokedexes and were the coolest kids in that lunch break. Then gen 2 came out at around the same time I discovered girls were not in fact filled with cooties and that actually maybe I would like to touch one of them. The search continues
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