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If you really care about the unjust bans, go post in QCS. I've seen unfair bans reversed there.
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paternity suitor posted:So when discussing Trump's polling yesterday, it came up that the main thing to monitor is not necessarily his overall approval, but his GOP approval, because that's the number the ghouls in congress are looking at so they don't get primaried by crossing him. Ohhhh that's the good poo poo right there don't stop
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So how does this shutdown end, realistically? I don't know much about politics but one of the most frustrating thing about the last couple years is finding out that public opinion doesn't actually count for a drat thing, and I'm appalled that he still has 83% of Republicans still approving of what he's doing anyway. Like I don't understand what mechanisms are even in place to prevent him from just stamping his foot indefinitely.
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Your Taint posted:If they got banned for rules that weren't even in place when they made the offending posts, that's some bullshit. Phenotype posted:So how does this shutdown end, realistically? I don't know much about politics but one of the most frustrating thing about the last couple years is finding out that public opinion doesn't actually count for a drat thing, and I'm appalled that he still has 83% of Republicans still approving of what he's doing anyway. Like I don't understand what mechanisms are even in place to prevent him from just stamping his foot indefinitely. Next week, McConnell is basically deposed and someone else drinks the poisoned chalice, brings the CR to a vote, and Trump either vetoes or backs down - but in this version, there's already enough defecting Republican senators to override the veto! This week or next week, possibly even February 1st if the Republicans have some serious balls/are utterly craven. Tibalt fucked around with this message at 14:17 on Jan 17, 2019 |
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Phenotype posted:So how does this shutdown end, realistically? I don't know much about politics but one of the most frustrating thing about the last couple years is finding out that public opinion doesn't actually count for a drat thing, and I'm appalled that he still has 83% of Republicans still approving of what he's doing anyway. Like I don't understand what mechanisms are even in place to prevent him from just stamping his foot indefinitely. There aren't any. Barring his own party turning on him, that is
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paternity suitor posted:So when discussing Trump's polling yesterday, it came up that the main thing to monitor is not necessarily his overall approval, but his GOP approval, because that's the number the ghouls in congress are looking at so they don't get primaried by crossing him. Yeah this is the kind of movement that can make a difference. Also, Rudy's latest in an odd sort of way made me feel better. Like, I'm always thinking "I've become numb to all this crazyness and that's a terrible thing" but then I see that clip of Rudy, am freshly astonished, and I realize I'm not completely dead inside yet. Thanks Rudy.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Ohhhh that's the good poo poo right there https://twitter.com/mikedelmoro/status/1085879042216095744?s=21
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Jan 17, 2019 14:19
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What about GOP approval in general? If that isn’t going down, then trump can happen all over again.
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Jan 17, 2019 14:21
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When you are losing ANY white evangelicals, that is not a good sign.
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What’s even more fun about this is that if trump is forced to cave due to polling pressure and allows a clean CR to go through, he’s going to lose some chuds while maybe gaining back only some of the low-info ‘economy’ republican voters he’s losing right now. He can’t win and it’s wonderful.
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When it mentioned bags of cash I thought it was an exaggeration not real https://mobile.twitter.com/PhilipRucker/status/1085879108221861888
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Phenotype posted:So how does this shutdown end, realistically? I don't know much about politics but one of the most frustrating thing about the last couple years is finding out that public opinion doesn't actually count for a drat thing, and I'm appalled that he still has 83% of Republicans still approving of what he's doing anyway. Like I don't understand what mechanisms are even in place to prevent him from just stamping his foot indefinitely. It does matter. It just needs to matter in a way that affects the people in power, which is public sentiment crossing a threshold that makes them fear losing their jobs. Two things are currently happening: 1) Trump's approval ratings are plummeting, and 2) the economy is being hurt As 1 continues, it becomes more politically palatable for the GOP to turn on him As 2 continues, the moneyed interests begin to turn on him (they are already mostly there because of his idiotic trade war) loving McConnell could open the government today. He's afraid of turning on Trump. Trump's power is his popularity among GOP voters, and GOP congresspeople being afraid to cross him. The crossover point where it becomes politically expedient to cross him is different depending on what area they represent, so that's why you see vulnerable GOP folks already doing it. As the numbers get worse more will turn, and eventually Mitch will order the override and re-open.
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:When you are losing ANY white evangelicals, that is not a good sign.
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Cable Guy posted:Yeah, that seems a little draconian and frankly wrong. I am not a D&D mod and I have no idea what's going on so don't drag my black rear end into this 😂😂
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Pollyanna posted:What about GOP approval in general? If that isn’t going down, then trump can happen all over again. They never learn anyways, so that is a silly question
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Pollyanna posted:What about GOP approval in general? If that isn’t going down, then trump can happen all over again. IIRC we've seen a drop in the number of people identifying as R, but an increase in independents, which is probably just shy conservatives refusing to admit they're GOP. They'll almost certainly go back once this is all over with. I can't recall seeing anything that suggests the GOP brand has been permanently damaged. Among white people anyway. But then again, demographic trends may render how white people feel about the GOP irrelevant pretty soon.
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paternity suitor posted:https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/all-bets-are-shutdown-s-impact-super-bowl-n959591 The one true way to destroy his ratings with white men.
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Cable Guy posted:Yeah, that seems a little draconian and frankly wrong. I'm just the librarian, I have no power outside my shelves
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:I'm just the librarian, I have no power outside my shelves Wow check out the politician over here.
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Jan 17, 2019 14:38
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Boris Galerkin posted:I don’t even understand the original tweet. Why would someone be crying in that situation anyway. He's making fun of this nascent genre of tweet: https://twitter.com/RashidaTlaib/status/1084910933141585921 https://twitter.com/RepSchneider/status/1085293583853383685 https://twitter.com/KatrinaPierson/status/1085350617571311616
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It'll really plummet if chuds don't get their tax returns.
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RU-DY! RU-DY! RU-DY! https://twitter.com/rgoodlaw/status/1024043915484254209?s=19
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Guze posted:RU-DY! RU-DY! RU-DY! It's always funny to see them hedge.
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Pinterest Mom posted:He's making fun of this nascent genre of tweet: One of these things is not like the others; one of these things just doesn't belong...
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This is how utterly uncanny the right is at messaging. The GOP is the reason why the shutdown is ongoing and Mitch is keeping the CR from getting a vote in the Senate, but they've got everyone convinced it's Democrats that are holding us all back.
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Star Man posted:This is how utterly uncanny the right is at messaging. The GOP is the reason why the shutdown is ongoing and Mitch is keeping the CR from getting a vote in the Senate, but they've got everyone convinced it's Democrats that are holding us all back. Polls would indicate that no, they do not. E: That lady, Katrina Pierson, is the crazy "bullet farmer" GOP operative who went on TV once wearing a necklace made out of bullets. She's hardly representative of public opinion.
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captainblastum posted:Yeah that was some serious loving garbage right there and the mods ought to be ashamed of themselves for it. You’re welcome for taking out the trash
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Star Man posted:This is how utterly uncanny the right is at messaging. The GOP is the reason why the shutdown is ongoing and Mitch is keeping the CR from getting a vote in the Senate, but they've got everyone convinced it's Democrats that are holding us all back. lol yes trump media people saying "dems bad" is proof that they are true savants at messaging
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The "in unison" part is how you know it's definitely a lie.
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Star Man posted:This is how utterly uncanny the right is at messaging. The GOP is the reason why the shutdown is ongoing and Mitch is keeping the CR from getting a vote in the Senate, but they've got everyone convinced it's Democrats that are holding us all back. Do you only get your news from Brietbart?
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Star Man posted:This is how utterly uncanny the right is at messaging. The GOP is the reason why the shutdown is ongoing and Mitch is keeping the CR from getting a vote in the Senate, but they've got everyone convinced it's Democrats that are holding us all back. Lol that tweet is very STDH
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Your Taint posted:It'll really plummet if chuds don't get their tax returns. Don’t worry, Trump’s already got that covered with indentured servitude. ”The Washington Post” posted:WASHINGTON — The Internal Revenue Service is recalling about 46,000 of its employees furloughed by the government shutdown — nearly 60 percent of its workforce — to handle tax returns and pay out refunds. The employees won’t be paid during the shutdown.
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Pollyanna posted:What about GOP approval in general? If that isn’t going down, then trump can happen all over again. GOP approval is down a net of 10 points, from 90-7 to 83-10.
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Yeah even if they aren’t just lying you’ll always find the one person supporting the GOP even if they lost so much Job would feel pity for them. It just depends on how much they get signal boosted as “this is everyone”
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Loucks posted:LT2012 was occasionally entertaining imo, but more importantly it’s 100% bullshit to perma posters by enforcing rules that weren’t in effect when/where they posted. There is no need to be “fair to the mods” when they make indefensible decisions. they weren’t punished for breaking cspam rules they were punished for being terrible posters
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Fritz Coldcockin posted:Polls would indicate that no, they do not. Look, I live in central Wyoming. I know like five people that know this is all Mitch and Trump's manufactured crisis while I am stuck living among chuds.
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Star Man posted:Look, I live in central Wyoming. I know like five people I've never met anyone who knew all the people in their home state 
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Mods please unperma Leon Trotsky 2012 and then make it so he can only post in the BWM thread from now on, for his own good. We need him. 
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Rudy needs a loving mute button so you can actually explain to him how he's loving up as a lawyer. Mueller doesn't have evidence of collusion? gently caress, *I* have evidence of collusion. The entire Internet has first hand access to all the evidence necessary. This is kangaroo court.
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Triskelli posted:“Where on the Hill is Senator Mitch McConnell” does match the right number of syllables. Also the chief is dead :< Government Shutdown is a hell of a presidential debuff Your Taint posted:It'll really plummet if chuds don't get their tax returns.
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