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ReidRansom
Oct 25, 2004


Dapper_Swindler posted:

how is he pleased? everyone is calling him a toddler and a shithead. i mean thats gonna change by tonight or tomorrow.

He is an emotional child and cannot distinguish between positive and negative attention.

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Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

citybeatnik posted:

My assumption is that it's either "HAHA THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT ME AGAIN!" or "they're upset that I have so much power".

i think its also because he is so broken the words they are saying about him don't sink in fast.

karthun
Nov 16, 2006

I forgot to post my food for USPOL Thanksgiving but that's okay too!

theblackw0lf posted:

Hmm I hope you're right. Most studies I've seen on M4A regarding how to pay for it usually has some sort of tax increase affecting those of more middle class income.

Where are you getting your numbers that show what say the overall cumulative income of people over 250k are making? Would be good to see so I can play around with it.

I don't have accurate numbers, just pulling numbers out of my rear end. But I did find this, only 19.5% of all income tax receipts are payed by households that have an AGI under 100k. 80.5% of tax receipts are payed by people who make more then 100k. The top 1%, people who make more then 500k, pay 38.3% of all income tax receipts. There was 1.5 trillion in income tax receipts for FY15 so ~575 billion was payed by the top 1% and thats with only a 27% effective tax rate. Drive that effective tax rate up to 70% and you get an additional 900 billion dollars or so a year assuming a linear relationship (big assumption). Target unearned income and you can easily pay for whatever you need. This is quick napkin math so it might not be exact (or even close) Needless to say I don't see M4A as a financial burden on the working class.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/10/06/a-closer-look-at-who-does-and-doesnt-pay-u-s-income-tax/ft_17-10-04_taxes_stats/

TulliusCicero
Jul 29, 2017



I would say the bigger part is the "hey my political opponent may be flying commercial into a warzone," *wink*

I'm sure the military is definitely not loving mad at a classified flight and operation being canceled hours before it happened though. Not at all :rolleyes:

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

The funny thing is the coverage is all negative but Trump likes it because he thinks petty vengeance is cool and good and a thing people like

Yeah, its either being presented as "Trump is petty", "Trump is petty in response to Pelosi being petty", or "Trump owns Pelosi with her own pettiness." In any scenario Trump is being petty but he considers that a virtue. They're talking about him and his power in the way he wants so he's happy.

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf
Mitch McConnell put out a long Op-Ed in defense of our elections being lovely and why the Dems are bad for trying to solve any of the issues

Killer robot
Sep 6, 2010

I was having the most wonderful dream. I think you were in it!
Pillbug

morcant posted:

That was a really great moment. :3: I do remember learning about the fact that AF1 is a callsign and not a specific plane, because my dad worked as an air traffic controller and actually helped direct it...I'm pretty sure it was during Clinton's presidency. I didn't know it was a custom plane with double the engines though! I assume so that it's even safer than having two?

It's not custom. Well, I mean the engines aren't so far as I know. The original post was just saying that AF1 is generally a 747 which has four engines, and not the other two-engine plane (757?) which was pictured in the tweet.

glowing-fish
Feb 18, 2013

Keep grinding,
I hope you level up! :)
Just a reminder that this is Not Normal, but I can't tell you how Not Normal it is:

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/01/marci-whitaker-email-matthew-whitaker-attorney-general.html

Some of this is a little bit ambiguous, like her saying "the investigation is wrapping up", maybe that is just an opinion from public news, but is the wife of the AAG publicly commenting on an investigation her husband is overseeing?

Something tells me that Whittaker and his family are not that bright.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


https://twitter.com/Ugarles/status/1085952380812906498

cochise
Sep 11, 2011


Crow Jane posted:

I mean, you have to admit it can be funny sometimes. Spite houses, for one, are hilarious.

This isn't that, though.

Yesss spite houses are interesting. There's one where I'm from that is kinda infamous around here. The owner wanted to build this gauche monstrosity in a gated community that's exclusive to the filthy rich. The HOA told him to get hosed and he bought some land about half a block down the street from the entrance to the community. He built his ugly rear end mansion and lived in it for maybe 2 years before needing to sell it well under what he spent because the land he built it on was previously swamp and the mansion is sinking. The guy kind of reminds me of Trump where everything is tacky.

Au Revoir Shosanna
Feb 17, 2011

i support this government and/or service
this sure is something
https://twitter.com/NickRiccardi/status/1086013629911031808

BigBallChunkyTime
Nov 25, 2011

Kyle Schwarber: World Series hero, Beefy Lad, better than you.

Illegal Hen

Groovelord Neato posted:

he's pleased everyone's laughing at him?

He's pleased that people are talking about him because he needs attention and Fred Christ never hugged or praised him.

EwokEntourage
Jun 10, 2008

BREYER: Actually, Antonin, you got it backwards. See, a power bottom is actually generating all the dissents by doing most of the work.

SCALIA: Stephen, I've heard that speed has something to do with it.

BREYER: Speed has everything to do with it.

morcant posted:

That was a really great moment. :3: I do remember learning about the fact that AF1 is a callsign and not a specific plane, because my dad worked as an air traffic controller and actually helped direct it...I'm pretty sure it was during Clinton's presidency. I didn't know it was a custom plane with double the engines though! I assume so that it's even safer than having two?

All 747s have two engines on each wing, he was saying the plane in the picture didn't have two engines on each wing, so it couldn't have been AF1

damnit, beaten on plane knowledge

the one in the picture is a 757 and i think its air force 2 (for the VP i think)

EwokEntourage fucked around with this message at 23:59 on Jan 17, 2019

Crow Jane
Oct 18, 2012

nothin' wrong with a lady drinkin' alone in her room

cochise posted:

Yesss spite houses are interesting. There's one where I'm from that is kinda infamous around here. The owner wanted to build this gauche monstrosity in a gated community that's exclusive to the filthy rich. The HOA told him to get hosed and he bought some land about half a block down the street from the entrance to the community. He built his ugly rear end mansion and lived in it for maybe 2 years before needing to sell it well under what he spent because the land he built it on was previously swamp and the mansion is sinking. The guy kind of reminds me of Trump where everything is tacky.

The best thing about spite houses is that they're generally built by horrible rich people to annoy other horrible rich people, so no one who matters gets hurt. Except for those people who bought a house across from the WBC compound and painted it pride colors, they rule.

twice burned ice
Dec 29, 2008

My stove defies the laws of physics!

karthun posted:

I don't have accurate numbers, just pulling numbers out of my rear end. But I did find this, only 19.5% of all income tax receipts are payed by households that have an AGI under 100k. 80.5% of tax receipts are payed by people who make more then 100k. The top 1%, people who make more then 500k, pay 38.3% of all income tax receipts. There was 1.5 trillion in income tax receipts for FY15 so ~575 billion was payed by the top 1% and thats with only a 27% effective tax rate. Drive that effective tax rate up to 70% and you get an additional 900 billion dollars or so a year assuming a linear relationship (big assumption). Target unearned income and you can easily pay for whatever you need. This is quick napkin math so it might not be exact (or even close) Needless to say I don't see M4A as a financial burden on the working class.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/10/06/a-closer-look-at-who-does-and-doesnt-pay-u-s-income-tax/ft_17-10-04_taxes_stats/

Plus, even if M4A requires increased taxes in the middle class, as long as those taxes are less than the cost of insurance and medical care under the current system, it's still a massive improvement


Imagine a system without deductibles, without copays, and without the imminent threat of suffering a catastrophe and having to shell out up to your OOP max.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Killer robot posted:

It's not custom. Well, I mean the engines aren't so far as I know. The original post was just saying that AF1 is generally a 747 which has four engines, and not the other two-engine plane (757?) which was pictured in the tweet.

Yeah, 747s have 4 engines in general, and AF1 uses one of the standard engine options.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


under bernie's m4a plan only the top 4 percent of earners would end up paying more than they do under the current system. i can't remember how the taxes work out for everyone though.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Supermacs have been doing this poo poo for literally decades and it's always hilarious. The ruling might have been on somewhat tenuous grounds, but McD's have consistently used their trademark to gently caress with Supermacs so they deserve this completely.

In case you were wondering, Supermacs burgers suck rear end

Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007

Thought I would post updates on the new house today. A lot of committee assignments!



https://mobile.twitter.com/Ilhan/status/1085910319220903936
https://mobile.twitter.com/RepColinAllred/status/1085913170462498818
https://mobile.twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1085653671239663616
https://mobile.twitter.com/Ilhan/status/1085919853838356480
https://mobile.twitter.com/RepKatiePorter/status/1085921573129854976
https://mobile.twitter.com/AOC/status/1085939614559412224
https://mobile.twitter.com/RepRashida/status/1085945478167052289
https://mobile.twitter.com/RepFinkenauer/status/1085966224566161413
https://mobile.twitter.com/RepHaleyStevens/status/1085974304729284609
https://mobile.twitter.com/RepDMP/status/1085983856447111170
https://mobile.twitter.com/RepDavids/status/1085964787731886085
https://mobile.twitter.com/jcrutchmer/status/1085663467078643716
https://mobile.twitter.com/TransportDems/status/1085978022233194496
https://mobile.twitter.com/RepKirkpatrick/status/1085954561662242816
https://mobile.twitter.com/HouseForeign/status/1085988929814360064
https://mobile.twitter.com/RepJayapal/status/1086014078705909761
https://mobile.twitter.com/RepKatieHill/status/1085666575431188481
https://mobile.twitter.com/SenJeffMerkley/status/1086018760396414978

cochise
Sep 11, 2011


Crow Jane posted:

The best thing about spite houses is that they're generally built by horrible rich people to annoy other horrible rich people, so no one who matters gets hurt. Except for those people who bought a house across from the WBC compound and painted it pride colors, they rule.

I was just looking at the wiki link and laughed a little too hard when I saw that rainbow house.

And yea the guy I mentioned is a rich rear end in a top hat. He had to nerve to name his ugly mansion and there's a giant plaque on the rod iron fence surrounding the place. The entire place looks like a modern version of a plantation of steroids.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


Failed Imagineer posted:

Supermacs have been doing this poo poo for literally decades and it's always hilarious. The ruling might have been on somewhat tenuous grounds, but McD's have consistently used their trademark to gently caress with Supermacs so they deserve this completely.

In case you were wondering, Supermacs burgers suck rear end

it's hilarious mcdonalds got owned but the ruling is incredibly bad.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Groovelord Neato posted:

it's hilarious mcdonalds got owned but the ruling is incredibly bad.

It's actually fine. the "genuine use" part relates to this

quote:

The “big mac” was registered in Europe both as a food and under a category for restaurant names. This meant that McDonald’s could call a restaurant “big mac”. As a result of that, it was able to argue that if the Supermac’s name was successfully trademarked, it could cause confusion for customers.

So basically the EUIPO just ruled that McDonald's does not, in fact, call its restaurants "Big Macs", no poo poo.

Of course, media outlets chose to report it in the dumbest way possible and I guess people just assume that they are better patent attorneys than the EUIPO

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

HappyHippo posted:

It's not like his pick would be any worse than Trump's, they're both going off the same list of assholes.

Sure, but Trump is making his decisions based on "will this person decide on my favor when my stuff reaches the Supreme Court", whereas Pence would be making his based on "will this person help realize my dream of a Christo-Fascist America?"

Blind Duke
Nov 8, 2013

Push El Burrito posted:

That's Air Force Two.

Air Force Two is the callsign for the Vice Presidents plane, so yes

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


Failed Imagineer posted:

It's actually fine. the "genuine use" part relates to this


So basically the EUIPO just ruled that McDonald's does not, in fact, call its restaurants "Big Macs", no poo poo.

Of course, media outlets chose to report it in the dumbest way possible and I guess people just assume that they are better patent attorneys than the EUIPO

the tweet i posted was from a lawyer.

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus

God Derek Kilmer is such a gawky dork but I can't help but love him. I had a chance to meet with him a few times when he was a WA State Rep and he's just an affable goober. Pretty middling Dem typical for our state though, all his mailers are very bland appeals for bipartisan solutions and other political weasel words/phrases that don't really say poo poo.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Groovelord Neato posted:

the tweet i posted was from a lawyer.

Oh no, I have been coaxed into an error.

I was gonna say something like "please point out why that is relevant", but then I realised that it's 11pm here, I have to catch a flight in like 4 hours, and I don't actually care that much about :burger: law

Guze
Oct 10, 2007

Regular Human Bartender

WIGOP got their early voting cuts struck down.

Eat poo poo you fuckers.

https://twitter.com/AriBerman/status/1086034390684237829?s=19

Inspector Gesicht
Oct 26, 2012

500 Zeus a body.


I ate at Supermac's today because no place in that town does fast-food, and I can confirm it still tastes like rear end.

twice burned ice
Dec 29, 2008

My stove defies the laws of physics!
It's cool to see that the #tenyearchallenege is being hijacked as a tool for climate change awareness.

https://twitter.com/MesutOzil1088/status/1085886279450087424

https://twitter.com/wwf_uk/status/1085586246796263425

https://twitter.com/LucasdiGrassi/status/1085518623538585600

Xae
Jan 19, 2005

Discendo Vox posted:

Do you have a source with more information on the logging and national database part of this?

I helped build a system which took in the data and used it to calculate Drug Rep bonuses.

I'm sure there is some official write-up on the official database somewhere but I can't remember enough of it to Google it up.

bilperkins2
Nov 22, 2004

Fashion for Dogz
:france:


https://twitter.com/netanyahu/status/1085885559531294721

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


that enrages me on a visceral level.

six million dead and the jewish state has a nazi running the show.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

Groovelord Neato posted:

the tweet i posted was from a lawyer.

lol who gives a poo poo he's wrong that it has anything to do with McDonalds 'selling' big macs, the court explicitly agreed they do indeed sell big macs but that doesn't mean the place you buy big macs is called a big mac, as they were arguing.

eviltastic
Feb 8, 2004

Fan of Britches

theblackw0lf posted:

Hmm I hope you're right. Most studies I've seen on M4A regarding how to pay for it usually has some sort of tax increase affecting those of more middle class income.

Where are you getting your numbers that show what say the overall cumulative income of people over 250k are making? Would be good to see so I can play around with it.

It can be hard to find the exact info you're looking for, but the Tax Policy Center has really useful numbers for stuff like this. https://www.taxpolicycenter.org/model-estimates/baseline-distribution-income-and-federal-taxes-august-2018/t18-0063-baseline
https://www.taxpolicycenter.org/model-estimates/baseline-distribution-income-and-federal-taxes-august-2018/t18-0065-baseline

It's great because they have estimates on a cash income basis, so you don't have to dance around rich people AGI vs real income issues and so on. They also try to do numbers for current policy as opposed to current law, when it's safe to assume Congress is going to do something it always does (like how the AMT patch used to be).

If you want health care numbers, https://www.cms.gov/Research-Statis...Historical.html

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


https://twitter.com/leslieleeiii/status/1086041688563466242

A big flaming stink
Apr 26, 2010

Groovelord Neato posted:

that enrages me on a visceral level.

six million dead and the jewish state has a nazi running the show.

didn't the founding of Israel involve literal communists?

Rip Testes
Jan 29, 2004

I never forget a face, but in your case I'll be glad to make an exception.

What a turd.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

A big flaming stink posted:

didn't the founding of Israel involve literal communists?

More or less but imperialism is a hell of a drug

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The Super-Id
Nov 9, 2005

"You know it's what you really want."


Grimey Drawer
Who cares about the earth we got walls man! You want a wall? You want a wall? loving walls woo!

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