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Burn Down Canberra posted:It’s almost a decade since the Argus review. In that time period we have produced pretty much no test batsmen The problem is they still held onto the same management since that time and most of the same selectors. God only knows how Hohns keeps a job. Hopefully with idiots like David Peever and Sutherland either left or leaving, things may improve. However sidelining of the Sheffield Shield competition for BBL and the garbage domestic pitches I can't see our batsman improving in a hurry.
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Jan 17, 2019 09:48
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I agree that it didn’t clean out enough deadwood but also all the changes were bad on top of it. Pat Howard was a massive failure as performance manager. The focus on young batsmen has ruined a lot of careers. It’s ridiculous that Edwards played for nsw before he scored a century at any level. The selectors and people like Greg Chappell point to freak talents in the past like Ponting but he scored centuries at every level and forced his way into the Tasmanian side young on merit It’s almost like they think that unearthing and fast tracking a young talent that is successful will provide the evidence that guys like pat Howard were needed The hilarity of Patterson scoring a huge hundred in the tour game while all the fancied choices fail shows how dumb the selectors are
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Jan 17, 2019 10:27
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Watch them pick Patterson for the ashes and then never pick him again after he fails in a series where everyone will be poo poo
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Jan 17, 2019 10:44
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I'm quite pleased for Patterson. His main issue is he scores a lot of 50s that he can't convert to hundreds, so him tonning up while other more fancied guys have failed is nice
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Jan 17, 2019 11:09
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The thunder have been screwed by a power outage. What a competition
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Jan 17, 2019 12:05
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Burn Down Canberra posted:The thunder have been screwed by a power outage. What a competition Thats the problem when you play in third world states. Pretty embarrassing for the Gabba - heads have got to roll as the backup plan has failed hard.
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Jan 17, 2019 12:12
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I think another issue with the Argus review is that is has the National team selectors loving around with state sides. (I don't know if that was an Argus reccomendation or not, but I think it was.) Back in the olden days you had the best XI in your state playing in the Shield. If you couldn't break into that team, you could maybe move to a different state to try and make their team, but that was it. All you could do was do your best at Grade level and hope to be picked. Then the National selectors would pick their team based on Shield performances or personal biases or whatever, but they had no input into who Tasmania should play as a specialist batsman, and where he should bat, (hello Matt Wade). But now the National team gets to dictate who state sides pick, and where they play. i.e. They can say "Hey [state], we need a young middle order batsman, so you should pick X player and bat him at 6 or 7 so we can have a look at him. No, we don't care that he's not in your best team, we need to look at him to see if he's ready for national level call up." Or replace batsman with bowler, and 'bat him at 6-7' with 'give him lots of overs' and you know what I mean.
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Jan 17, 2019 12:13
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MiniSune posted:Thats the problem when you play in third world states. Looks like killing the power was the backup plan after losing two wickets so fast.
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Jan 17, 2019 12:16
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BrigadierSensible posted:I think another issue with the Argus review is that is has the National team selectors loving around with state sides. (I don't know if that was an Argus reccomendation or not, but I think it was.) A not insignificant part of this problem is how utterly insignificant Shield cricket has become. If there was genuine interest and media pressure on the coaches then you can guarantee that a coach would see that request and bin it lest they lose a chunk of games, miss out on the finals and get the sack.
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Jan 17, 2019 12:43
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Players did take shield seriously back in the day to the degree that they wanted to win but first class cricket hasnt really ever caught the publics imagination. A lot has changed in the way a player prepares for the test summer. It used to be grade cricket, first class cricket and test cricket. Test players rarely play grade cricket any more due to the international calender and the first class season is a shambles. If we are spit balling ideas then i would start the shield season a month early. This isnt ideal because AFL is still playing and will be using all the cricket grounds but im sure each state has something like north Sydney oval that can be used for first class cricket. Can the lovely list a tournament that is obviously a huge failure based on our horrendous form in odi cricket. Australia has decent weather for cricket year round and shield cricket barely draws a cent anyway so who cares if people are watching winter sports
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Jan 17, 2019 13:30
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As you're all banging on about domestic cricket, Shane Warne and Rahul Dravid both played in the last domestic first class game to be played in Portsmouth, with Dravid scoring the absolute last first class century this city will ever see for Kent against Somerset
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Jan 18, 2019 03:13
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Finch is looking like he's forgotten how to bat
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Jan 18, 2019 03:56
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put both hands in posted:Finch is looking like he's forgotten how to bat SMH headline from yesterday "Lyon axed as Finch vows to get aggressive" Proceeds to leave every delivery in the first over and nick the last.
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Jan 18, 2019 04:00
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put both hands in posted:Finch is looking like he's forgotten how to bat With his poor efforts in the test side, being hoisted into an opening position he should not be in, I think he's pretty broken at the moment. God only knows how he's dealing with being the one day captain with his issues with batting at the moment.
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Jan 18, 2019 06:01
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lol great shot Maxi
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Jan 18, 2019 06:14
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Wow. That is, uh, not a great total. Call me crazy but I think India can probably chase that in a t20.
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Jan 18, 2019 07:31
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lol if Kohli makes another hundred
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Jan 18, 2019 09:50
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BallerBallerDillz posted:Wow. That is, uh, not a great total. Call me crazy but I think India can probably chase that in a t20. Yep, so few runs that it even made Dhoni move himself up the order in order to give himself enough time to hit a slow glory-seeking 50.
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Jan 18, 2019 09:51
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I'm not sure what's the funnier outcome though, India managing to somehow lose from here or Australia continuing to not be able to win an ODI series despite being the last world cup winners
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Jan 18, 2019 10:28
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Dhoni chases are so needlessly aggravating
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Jan 18, 2019 11:28
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Siddle is garbage, the batsman look like they can just do whatever they want against him
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Jan 18, 2019 11:43
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Siddle shouldn't be anywhere near an Australian side again
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Jan 18, 2019 11:45
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People singing odes to Dhoni's genius when his infuriatingly slow scoring is the only reason this wasn't wrapped up with four overs to spare is just beyond irritating
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Jan 18, 2019 11:49
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That's what I was going to ask. I didn't watch the game, and just saw the scores. Was there a reason that India took so long to chase such a small score? Was it good tight bowling, was the pitch doing something? Or was it Dhoni scoring at a snails pace, then winning in the last over to make himself look a hero?
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Jan 18, 2019 11:53
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BrigadierSensible posted:That's what I was going to ask. I didn't watch the game, and just saw the scores. Look into your heart
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Jan 18, 2019 11:54
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BrigadierSensible posted:That's what I was going to ask. I didn't watch the game, and just saw the scores. India were just loving with us.
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Jan 18, 2019 11:55
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There's something to be said for sensible batting when chasing a modest target, but that should not have gone to the last over
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Jan 18, 2019 12:08
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I am a massive fan of Siddle, it's a shame to hear of his downfall.
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Jan 18, 2019 12:43
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Over on another forum i was discussing how poorly we have gone at producing batsmen since the argus review. I thought this thread might like to see. I started it at August 2011 which was around when the argus review was published http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...ts;type=batting Some interesting data there the only guys to debut post argus review averaging over 40 is an ancient adam voges and david warner who played his first test directly afterwards. Mitch Marsh has 200 more runs from significantly more innings to a well past it Ricky Ponting. Just a shambles
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Jan 18, 2019 12:50
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THE FINISHER edit: he was looking like absolute garbage as well until that last over put both hands in fucked around with this message at 14:59 on Jan 18, 2019 |
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Jan 18, 2019 14:56
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Haze out with a back injury. Richardson called up and he is competing with Siddle for the last fast bowler spot. I hope they pick Richardson
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Jan 19, 2019 01:47
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Why on earth is Siddle back in contention?
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Jan 19, 2019 01:54
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Burn Down Canberra posted:Over on another forum i was discussing how poorly we have gone at producing batsmen since the argus review. I thought this thread might like to see. I started it at August 2011 which was around when the argus review was published If people want a laugh check out who's dead last on this list. Best 9 in test history. The near future of Oz cricket is going to be real bad, what terrible reading. Without Smith and Warner, how bad would it have been?
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Jan 19, 2019 02:53
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Mister Chief posted:Why on earth is Siddle back in contention? I don't think Siddle knows himself
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Jan 19, 2019 03:09
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You Am I posted:I don't think Siddle knows himself He's 34 with a thoroughly unremarkable career and no significant form surge to justify anything. Bizarre. edit: in saying that, without the sandpaper effect Hazelwood is pretty average himself. Smorgasbord fucked around with this message at 05:30 on Jan 19, 2019 |
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Jan 19, 2019 05:27
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Siddle's bowling economy rate was great in the tests, he wouldn't leak runs like either Starc or Johnson would. But Siddle was a done unit after the last Ashes series.
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Jan 19, 2019 06:30
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Siddle was really good on pitches that suited him to be fair. He is just a bit past his best.
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Jan 19, 2019 07:17
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That WBBL game was better than every BBL game this season put together.
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Jan 19, 2019 07:37
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Meanwhile in the NZ T20 comp, play has been delayed for about 25 minutes in Napier because of the loving sun. This is the venue for the India game on Wednesday, good job Napier you just got games back after the flooded outfield with no rain all day debacle, now this...
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Jan 19, 2019 07:57
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Patterson got another century when everyone else was bad again, I would be fine if they just last minute changed the squad and put him in it tbh
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