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MSDOS KAPITAL posted:It'll likely lead to balkanization as well so you'll have your pick of authoritarian hellscapes to toil and die under. At least in the Red World universe Bernie finally gets to be president.
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Nail Rat posted:Have a scorching libertarian take on the shutdown: The thing is... if certain aspects that are run by the government become privatized, everyone is going to lose. Your taxes are certainly not going to go down a proportional amount to make up for the government not spending that money, and that privatized service will become more expensive. For example... if TSA becomes privatized, the workers are not going to get a raise to do the same job they always have been doing, that cost gets passed along to the airlines, and some CEO becomes rich off of everybody else paying higher ticket prices.
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OhDearGodNo posted:Maddow talked about this last night. Given what happened, it may not be that big of a mystery.
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lmao that Trump honestly thinks that his wall isn't polling very well because American's don't understand how nice it's gonna look
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my bony fealty posted:posting from the (future) Glorious Socialist People's Republic of California. we made the GOP illegal here in 2022 and gay weed mandatory So, is this weed that is gay, or weed that makes you gay? Asking for a friend...
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You're not excited to travel to the border just to take pictures of a wall?!
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Besesoth posted:To be clear: Jason Leopold was caught plagiarizing 15 years ago (due, apparently, to a substance abuse problem he's now in treatment for) and because of that, you are certain that every word printed under his name is now false? That's your claim, right? I'm being slightly facetious, especially since someone came at me with "source your quotes," which is literally what he got nailed for. I don't think it's necessarily false. But it makes me a lot more nervous about the story, especially since if there is a whiff of impropriety about it, it's going to absolutely torpedo the Russia investigation in the press. Edit: That's also not the only thing he got in trouble for, just the first and most well-known.
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Petr posted:it's going to absolutely torpedo the Russia investigation in the press.  growing ever larger
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Madkal posted:There is a 95% chance Trump paid one of his mistresses to have an abortion. There is a 5% chance he made one of his mistresses pay for the abortion. Anything Trump might sign which restricts abortions won't impact the ability of the wealthy to get the abortions they need. This will only impact peasants, which makes it ok! (This is referred to as the "The Only Moral Abortions Are Rich Abortions" principle.)
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Petr posted:I'm being slightly facetious, especially since someone came at me with "source your quotes," which is literally what he got nailed for. I don't think it's necessarily false. But it makes me a lot more nervous about the story, especially since if there is a whiff of impropriety about it, it's going to absolutely torpedo the Russia investigation in the press. A reporter from anywhere reporting a story that turns out to be not a thing is not going to matter ultimately with regards to the investigation. It will only affect the news cycle for so long and anything that is actually in the report will have just as much legitimacy.
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OhDearGodNo posted:Maddow talked about this last night. She was in danger as soon as she left Thailand. Belarus might as well be Russian satellite state, and its not like ending up in Belarus would have been any safer.
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Petr posted:I'm being slightly facetious, especially since someone came at me with "source your quotes," which is literally what he got nailed for. I don't think it's necessarily false. But it makes me a lot more nervous about the story, especially since if there is a whiff of impropriety about it, it's going to absolutely torpedo the Russia investigation in the press. He's well known for loving up a Valerie Plame story but he's also been one of the better investigative journalists in the last several years and has had a lot of good Trump stuff with Cormier. That article that skylined! linked goes into the whole history.
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FCKGW posted:lmao that Trump honestly thinks that his wall isn't polling very well because American's don't understand how nice it's gonna look He's used to rubes laying out their retirement savings as a deposit for Trump Tower Boca Raton based simply on an artist's rendering of a building that ends up never getting built so, yeah, this makes sense.
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The Super-Id posted:A reporter from anywhere reporting a story that turns out to be not a thing is not going to matter ultimately with regards to the investigation. It will only affect the news cycle for so long and anything that is actually in the report will have just as much legitimacy. Hence "in the press." Which does matter for a situation that will ultimately need a political solution, because our legal system is not set up for this.
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Petr posted:Hence "in the press." The press is partially what we need a solution for honestly.
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Your Taint posted:So what you're saying is the Dow is going to have a really bad day on Monday.
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Petr posted:I'm being slightly facetious, especially since someone came at me with "source your quotes," which is literally what he got nailed for. I don't think it's necessarily false. But it makes me a lot more nervous about the story, especially since if there is a whiff of impropriety about it, it's going to absolutely torpedo the Russia investigation in the press. It's funny that you managed to couch a 'nothing matters' take into a 'people never change' take.
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Saint Celestine posted:She was in danger as soon as she left Thailand. Belarus might as well be Russian satellite state, and its not like ending up in Belarus would have been any safer. For all we know the Thai junta might have just dumped her in Belarus in return for some Russian oligarch money
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RasperFat posted:We should know in an hour or two if any Mueller bombs are dropping this week. This seems to be a common opinion, and was a favorite strawman of detractors in the Russia thread. I think it portrays an overly theatrical version of who Mueller is, and what he is doing. There are at least 15 prosecutors working on the case, for Mueller. There are also probably dozens or scores of investigators from different departments (Justice, Treasury, maybe State) who are doing all the leg work of looking through documents, etc. There is also, besides Mueller, different District Attorneys (SDNY, DC, and for that matter, South Dakota), who are working on investigations that have been related to this investigation. This is a pretty wide ranging thing, and Mueller isn't some type of movie cop who is going to just make a decision at the last minute and change everything.
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So what are the odds someone from the Special Council's office paid her a visit over in Thailand?
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Mercury Ballistic posted:So what are the odds someone from the Special Council's office paid her a visit over in Thailand? Low
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CroatianAlzheimers posted:So, is this weed that is gay, or weed that makes you gay? Asking for a friend... yes
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Mercury Ballistic posted:So what are the odds someone from the Special Council's office paid her a visit over in Thailand? Unlikely. The general consensus from before seems to have been that it was either a desperate lie or a honeypot.
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Ahahaha Dan from Knowledge Fight is going to be delighted about this.
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Mercury Ballistic posted:So what are the odds someone from the Special Council's office paid her a visit over in Thailand? Probably zero, the Russians tend to pay better
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skylined! posted:It's funny that you managed to couch a 'nothing matters' take into a 'people never change' take. Neither of those takes are technically true in the general sense, but the exceptions appear to be edge cases.
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PhazonLink posted:lol at regressive and their love of This seems...like a bad post...
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glowing-fish posted:This seems to be a common opinion, and was a favorite strawman of detractors in the Russia thread. I think it portrays an overly theatrical version of who Mueller is, and what he is doing. I appreciate this and it is good to remember that there’s a lot of professionals working on this case. I just have nightmare flashbacks to Comey using the FBI to attack Clinton and likely be the tipping point to getting Trump in office. Comey was a highly respectable, law and order, by the book cop as well. I think I might be incapable of ever trusting a Republican cop again. Mainly because anybody still sticking with the Republicans has to be authoritarian AF, and authoritarians never care about the law when push comes to shove with their tribe.
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Unzip and Attack posted:I don't disagree, but I think those things are highly unlikely, almost to the point of not being considered plausible. I don't think there are very many people out there who support Trump now that would ever abandon support for him. His administration has been a freak show of constant criminality and vulgarity that Nixon's absolutely was not. Nixon at least obfuscated most of his evil acts while Trump loudly proclaims them on TV or social media. Nobody is reality proof. His supporters probably won't abandon him out of "optics", there is only one thing that would probably make his base break over optics. But the thing is, there hasn't been a lot of real consequences for his base. Its all been a game used for triggering the libs. Its been all about the symbolism. The economy is very strong, there are no foreign policy problems that directly impact them, so it has all basically been a TV show. How they will react when there are real world consequences remains to be seen. Even a mild uptick in unemployment, or a small recession are going to suddenly make a lot of people realize "oh, this isn't just a game". For Bush Jr, it was kind of the same thing: there was a lot of people who were attracted to the swagger or whatever the gently caress. A war was basically good entertainment and a way to solidify identity. And then, sometime around 2005, it changed, and Bush spent his second term under 50%, and the last two years of it below 35%. Not only that, but it basically fractured the Republican base in regards to militarism (although they kind of learned the wrong lessons, as is often the case). It is just that with Trump, the real life consequences haven't really been felt. When they are, people's minds will change. The thing that could "optically" break his base is that if Fox and/or the national security apparatus challenge him. With the right messaging, Flynn could go up and say "I was just a simple solider who wanted to serve my country, when this fast talking New York City huckster manipulated me into doing some bad things..." But I don't know how probable it is that they are going to stand up against Trump.
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RasperFat posted:I appreciate this and it is good to remember that there’s a lot of professionals working on this case. i mean i get it, but i think muller will gently caress trump up if he can. the guy was great, professional investigator in the day apperently and i trust him not to just say "well trump did all the crimes but i will ignore them now".
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Agent Burt Macklin posted:It's his mediterranean blood and their inherent dark circles. Yep that's it, plus the old Daily Mail photoshoppery. Don't have to up the contrast very much on that pic to make him look like he got clocked. Now, the "scheduled shoulder surgery", coulda been anything.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:i mean i get it, but i think muller will gently caress trump up if he can. the guy was great, professional investigator in the day apperently and i trust him not to just say "well trump did all the crimes but i will ignore them now". I think people are worried that trump didn’t do any crimes or was really good at covering crimes and both seem like  things to think about trump in 2019
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