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Ensign Expendable posted:Valentine III and V I’d like to see that added on at some point
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EvilMerlin posted:Yep. That about covers it. My best bud in Pittsburgh was one of those crazy bastards... now he is a film stunt person... go figure. I'm going to have to ask mate, why are you endlessly probated?
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FrangibleCover posted:I'm going to have to ask mate, why are you endlessly probated? Posting in FYAD runs the risk that an idiot king will make you their pet project.
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Anyone who posts in FYAD deserves what they get.
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Big fan of Goering?
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lookin like they rolled in on himmler
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FAUXTON posted:lookin like they rolled in on himmler
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Big Dick Cheney posted:Can someone help me find a quote? I remember an old quote (might be apocryphal) where Hitler or Himmler or someone else sees the US aircraft production numbers, and they laugh at them, because they think the numbers are ridiculous. May or may not include something like "if these are true, we already lost the war" I think the top Nazis were pretty habitual at dismissing the manufacturing numbers the Allies were cranking out, so there are probably a lot of these. Here's one that I used in a old blog post: quote:Kammhuber argued that to fend off the strategic bombing campaign and the allies vastly superior aircraft production, the Night Fighter command alone would need 2160 aircraft in the west. Hitler of course, would have none of it, and ridiculed Kammhuber's estimates of Allied production, despite the fact that all the numbers came from German intelligence. “It's absolute nonsense,” Hitler shouted. “If the figures of 5000 a month were right, you would be right too. In that case, I would have to withdraw from Eastern Front forthwith, and apply all resources to air defense. But they are not right! I will not stand for such nonsense.”
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chitoryu12 posted:I was reading Geddy Lee's Big Beautiful Book of Bass (because if you play an instrument you may as well drool over a collection of hundreds of $20,000+ instruments you'll never own in your life) and it had a picture of a mandobass, one of the earliest "bass guitars". oh no https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMoOhCh_GUM
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I just realized I'd never actually thought about this. What sort of information would the Germans be using to estimate monthly Allied production numbers?
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StandardVC10 posted:I just realized I'd never actually thought about this. What sort of information would the Germans be using to estimate monthly Allied production numbers? They would be using cooked reports from double agents.
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The allies used statistical analysis of serial numbers, a very effective method of solving what became officially known as the German Tank Problem
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Nebakenezzer posted:I think the top Nazis were pretty habitual at dismissing the manufacturing numbers the Allies were cranking out, so there are probably a lot of these. Here's one that I used in a old blog post: Narrator: The figures were right.
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Ensign Expendable posted:
These three please!
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:Narrator: The figures were right. Actually the hilarious thing is that they were still wrong. American production during World War II was ludicrous.
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Tunicate posted:The allies used statistical analysis of serial numbers, a very effective method of solving what became officially known as the German Tank Problem You could possibly call it the German Tank Question?
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Acebuckeye13 posted:Actually the hilarious thing is that they were still wrong. Lucy style clip of the conveyor belt getting turned to triple maximum output and them assembling planes and other poo poo at breakneck speed.
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I think abundant access to natural resources was more valuable to America than industrial expertise honestly - never having t9 worry about steel production or access to rubber really helped America be able to focus on maximising output as opposed to making current production more efficient.
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Nothingtoseehere posted:I think abundant access to natural resources was more valuable to America than industrial expertise honestly - never having t9 worry about steel production or access to rubber really helped America be able to focus on maximising output as opposed to making current production more efficient. I thought that they were quite worried about the access to rubber.
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Hogge Wild posted:I thought that they were quite worried about the access to rubber. The US put a lot of effort into improving the production of synthetic rubber.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNOEYN0h2sk
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wdarkk posted:The US put a lot of effort into improving the production of synthetic rubber. How did it compare to other countries' synthetic rubber? I've understood that Germany was quite good at it, though I'm not certain.
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Nothingtoseehere posted:I think abundant access to natural resources was more valuable to America than industrial expertise honestly - never having t9 worry about steel production or access to rubber really helped America be able to focus on maximising output as opposed to making current production more efficient. we didn't have our own rubber
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HEY GUNS posted:we didn't have our own rubber Well, we made our own rubber.
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Panzeh posted:Well, we made our own rubber. ![]()
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The figure I always use to try and get the insane scale of US production across is that at peak production, the factory at Willow Run completed a B-24 once every 63 minutes. The Pacific Aviation Museum in Hawaii had a cool chart showing the difference in industrial production between the US and Japan, and the US put more shipping down in the 6 months between June and December 1943 than Japan did in the entire war. The USA in WWII was like the allies activating the infinite ammo cheat code in real life
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Panzeh posted:Well, we made our own rubber. The US had tons of oil which you can use to make synthetic rubber. The Germans had neither natural rubber nor much in the way of petroleum, but they did have coal and they ended up resorting to chemical wizardry to convert coal into liquid petroleum and then synthetic rubber.
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubber_soldiers
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i thought borracho meant drunk romance languages strike again
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that's pretty drat wild. "alright here's your bed, your net, and some cigs. good luck and have fun in the jungle!!"
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Don Gato posted:The figure I always use to try and get the insane scale of US production across is that at peak production, the factory at Willow Run completed a B-24 once every 63 minutes. The Pacific Aviation Museum in Hawaii had a cool chart showing the difference in industrial production between the US and Japan, and the US put more shipping down in the 6 months between June and December 1943 than Japan did in the entire war. The USA in WWII was like the allies activating the infinite ammo cheat code in real life The one I use is that Ford Motor Company produced more vehicles than Italy.
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Kangxi posted:The one I use is that Ford Motor Company produced more vehicles than Italy. bespoke handcrafted artisanal all-weather fighters
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HEY GUNS posted:i thought borracho meant drunk Borracho means drunk in Spanish, borracha means rubber in Portuguese. Go figure. HEY GUNS posted:italy still made them by hand The last generation of Italian fighters were actually quite well-regarded. Quoting Eric Brown the famous British test pilot: “One of the finest aircraft I ever flew was the Macchi MC. 205. Oh, beautiful. And here you had the perfect combination of Italian styling and German engineering. I believe it was powered by a Daimler Benz DB 605. It was really a delight to fly, and up to anything on the Allied programme. But again, it came just before the Italians capitulated so it was never used extensively. And we did tests on it and were most impressed. The cockpit was smallish but not as bad as the Bf 109.” Vincent Van Goatse fucked around with this message at 22:14 on Jan 20, 2019 |
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:The cockpit was smallish but not as bad as the Bf 109.” Searing hot-take: the nutritional deprivation suffered by Germany in the final period of WW1 leading to shorter people was a cause for the Luftwaffe's early war success.
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I know chat about battlefield v’s tiger campaign was months ago, but me and my partner just got it and no one mentioned the way better Tirailleur campaign. The player is a black free french soldier in Operation Dragoon. The opening crawl is all ![]() ![]() Your white french officer volunteers your dudes to storm a fortified german position that has stalled the advance, but he doesn’t accompany you. The final cutscene, after your dudes have overrun the germans and, abandoned without orders, pushed all the way to their HQ, has the last few black tirailleurs standing given the ~honour~ of posing in a victory photo with your Brave Leader and a bunch of white french soldiers. The last lingering shot is you and your dudes getting airbrushed out of the photo and the closing crawl talks about the erasure of black french troops by De Gaulle and friends. It’s not the most profound thing in the world but it’s way more than I expect from a mainstream american fps. Also has lots of sexy, sexy adrian helmets. Remind me why people get hard over the stalhelm again?
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Nothingtoseehere posted:I think abundant access to natural resources was more valuable to America than industrial expertise honestly - never having t9 worry about steel production or access to rubber really helped America be able to focus on maximising output as opposed to making current production more efficient. I don't know how to quantify the relative magnitude of the effect of access to natural resources vs industrial expertise -- however you shouldn't dismiss the importance of knowledge and practice. We can make comparisons to other countries which also had abundant resources like Australia or Canada, and ask why they couldn't produce the same level of output? Of course their population was tiny especially in this period, and I suspect a lot of their resources still in the process of being developed. We can also make comparisons to Mexico and Brazil, countries which had modestly large populations, access to abundant resources, and long enough histories to reasonably have had time to develop them. However instead industry in these Latin American countries remained poorly developed. The reasons for these differences are obviously very complex, and the United States was afforded many lucky opportunities that gave it advantages. However its not enough just to have great opportunities, you also need the knowledge and expertise to correctly exploit it.
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Nothingtoseehere posted:I think abundant access to natural resources was more valuable to America than industrial expertise honestly - never having t9 worry about steel production or access to rubber really helped America be able to focus on maximising output as opposed to making current production more efficient. The problem with this statement is that "making processes more efficient" generally leads to "maximizing output". Minimizing waste is the key to increasing industrial output in general. Ample access to resources certainly helped keeping the factories fed, and it meant that US designers didn't have to accept inferior substitutes for more scarce materials, but I really, really doubt that there were many cases where US industry was faced with a "Use 10% less X per unit or Produce 10% more units in the same time" choice.
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:The last generation of Italian fighters were actually quite well-regarded.
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