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American McGay posted:Not to go too far down the lovely topic rabbit hole but why does the term Metroidvania even exist? I mean it makes sense for SotN since it took the Castlevania series and made it like Metroid, but all these newer games are just in the style of Metroid. There's nothing Castlevania about them. The term was created by some 25 year old whose first system was the PS1. They should be called Metroidlikes, or Roidlikes for short. when I see an item at the beginning of the game that i cant get till 90% through the game i have roidrage
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ONE YEAR LATER posted:It's funny you say this because I watched the first episode of his Metroidvania retrospect on a whim today (it was posted over 4 years ago, where does the time go?) and he says that he didn't coin the term and the first time he saw it used was the forums on Scott Sharkey’s website. His YT channel is excellent all around, all the Works series are great
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Jan 20, 2019 00:43
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American McGay posted:Not to go too far down the lovely topic rabbit hole but why does the term Metroidvania even exist? I mean it makes sense for SotN since it took the Castlevania series and made it like Metroid, but all these newer games are just in the style of Metroid. There's nothing Castlevania about them. The term was created by some 25 year old whose first system was the PS1. They should be called Metroidlikes, or Roidlikes for short. bloody-minded inertia. I try to say exploration-platformer or just be more specific in general because the term has been overloaded into uselessness, as words tend to do
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Jan 20, 2019 00:47
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On the other hand, I will greedily snatch anything labeled souls-like and shove it right into the depths of my rear end in a top hat without hesitation
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Jan 20, 2019 00:50
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KingSlime posted:On the other hand, I will greedily snatch anything labeled souls-like and shove it right into the depths of my rear end in a top hat without hesitation Text me
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Jan 20, 2019 00:53
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KingSlime posted:On the other hand, I will greedily snatch anything labeled souls-like and shove it right into the depths of my rear end in a top hat without hesitation I did until The Surge or whatever
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Jan 20, 2019 01:00
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Pablo Nergigante posted:I bought Hollow Knight on sale a few weeks ago and played for a while but I have like no motivation to go back to it. I played 3 actual Castlevanias in the meantime and enjoyed them a lot more I hate the old "it gets good" argument but it genuinely gets great. The start is very slow but I guess it grounds you in the mechanics. The mechanics are very old school so it is a little boring and the environments are dull. It's really purposeful though and hammers home the world above being lovely remnants of a frankly fantastic civilisation below that's extremely fun to discover. You also get the pieces of the story puzzle in a dark souls show and don't tell way that I really loved. Once the Knight gets all their tricks the battles are loving crazy good and there's some great boss design.
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Jan 20, 2019 01:17
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I got 20 hours into the game and the only places left to explore are the kingdom's edge and that sactuary or whatever, and the game never got good Really should have stopped at 2 hours but what can i say, i love metroidvanias and had foolish hope
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Jan 20, 2019 01:22
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JBP posted:I hate the old "it gets good" argument but it genuinely gets great. The start is very slow but I guess it grounds you in the mechanics. The mechanics are very old school so it is a little boring and the environments are dull. It's really purposeful though and hammers home the world above being lovely remnants of a frankly fantastic civilisation below that's extremely fun to discover. You also get the pieces of the story puzzle in a dark souls show and don't tell way that I really loved. Also the gamefeel is so tight that you really don't need any of the abilities to have fun with the combat
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Jan 20, 2019 01:24
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Not getting the dash until a few hours in is kind of a bummer. The game feels much slower without any of the movement upgrades. That combined with the sporadic checkpoints, losing Geo upon death, and genuinely sprawling areas/challenging combat from the onset can make it feel like the game is going to be a bigger slog than it actually is That said, HK is an all time top 5 game for me. It's so good
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Jan 20, 2019 01:26
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KingSlime posted:Not getting the dash until a few hours in is kind of a bummer. The game feels much slower without any of the movement upgrades. One great thing about playing on switch is suspending the game, which takes out the annoying start at bench you had to put up with on PC. I get people not liking those systems but I reckon they work. I also can't remember ever losing my geo, it's never that hard to retrieve* * If you're very impatient or rushing this might not be true.
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Jan 20, 2019 01:29
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Inzombiac posted:I did until The Surge or whatever Yeah same. I really wanted to like The Surge because hey it's a sci-fi horror Souls game but the difficulty is way out of whack and everything looks the same. It had some cool ideas though, like I loved seeing a piece of armor on a guy and going "I want that armor" so I cut the piece of it off them for my own use.
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Jan 20, 2019 01:36
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I wish I liked Hollow Knight; everyone talks about how amazing it is. I tried to watch an LP of it and it literally put me asleep after about 5 or 6 episodes. The lack of combat variety (all you have is Sword, Projectile and Butt Slam) is probably what did it.
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Jan 20, 2019 01:46
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Simon The Digger posted:I wish I liked Hollow Knight; everyone talks about how amazing it is. I tried to watch an LP of it and it literally put me asleep after about 5 or 6 episodes. The lack of combat variety (all you have is Sword, Projectile and Butt Slam) is probably what did it. I don't get this. It's like the opponents don't exist? There are so many bosses that are all different. I don't really use the slam or projectile for anything other than getting into a new area or clearing an annoying regular mob due to laziness. E: like the best way to play is with stuff like sharp shadow and dash master to become an everywhere at once, hyper mobile ninja maniac.
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Jan 20, 2019 01:49
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No Metroidvania has yet to come close to Super Metroid.
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I've played through most of Hollow Knight and i don't even remember any of the bosses. Really, the only enemies i distinctly remember are the armored spiders (gently caress off forever pls), the big club bugs cause it's the first one to ever kill me, and uuuh... Oh i guess the laser crystal dude, i remember that one. Probably becuase i fought him twice.
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Jan 20, 2019 01:52
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NienNunb posted:No Metroidvania has yet to come close to Super Metroid. SOTN, Super Metroid and Zero Mission are the Holy Trinity, the DS games and Aria are the apostles. Hollow Knight is Judas 
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Jan 20, 2019 01:57
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Wouldn't Judas technically be other m?
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Pablo Nergigante posted:SOTN, Super Metroid and Zero Mission are the Holy Trinity, the DS games and Aria are the apostles. Hollow Knight is Judas Switch Aria for SOTN or SM, and we have a deal
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Jan 20, 2019 01:59
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Pablo Nergigante posted:SOTN, Super Metroid and Zero Mission are the Holy Trinity, the DS games and Aria are the apostles. Hollow Knight is Judas Judas is technically the hero because he enabled Jesus to end all sin 
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Jan 20, 2019 02:00
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I'd complain about how the indie game flavor-of-the-moment is Metroidvania, but there was a time when I was loudly wondering why every indie game was a roguelike, so I guess things move in cycles. Speaking of which, I haven't played The Messenger in a while.
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bushisms.txt posted:Wouldn't Judas technically be other m? Other M is Barrabas. Fusion is Pontius Pilate.
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Jan 20, 2019 02:04
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BrotherFish posted:Just got a switch. I travel a bunch for work. Curious if anyone has any recommendations for a reliable usb-c adapter so I can use the switch on hotel TVs without needing to bring the dock. Detective No. 27 posted:Due to USB C fuckery, third party docks have a good chance of permanently bricking your Switch. Don't use them unless you want to destroy your system. https://www.businessinsider.com/nintendo-switch-insignia-dock-kit-review-2018-1 https://www.reddit.com/r/NintendoSwitch/comments/7i00cs/best_buy_insignia_switch_dock_teardown_and/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3y6I694dbg That said, it is not that much smaller than the regular dock at about half the size, but it is also half the price, including a power adapter and HDMI cable. It's not a teeny tiny travel size dock, but it may be small enough for your needs. Assepoester fucked around with this message at 02:11 on Jan 20, 2019 |
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HenryEx posted:Switch Aria for SOTN or SM, and we have a deal No deal you sick pervert
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drat now I guess I have to get it since ya’ll killed that guy.
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Hollow Knight is the best game that I did not enjoy whatsoever.
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Jan 20, 2019 02:15
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I like videogames
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Schlitzkrieg Bop posted:Hollow Knight is the best game that I did not enjoy whatsoever. This sums up my feelings. The art style, the combat, just the whole deal was not my thing. But I fully admit that it’s a personal preference issue.
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Jan 20, 2019 02:20
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Your Computer posted:I like videogames 
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Your Computer posted:I like videogames
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Pablo Nergigante posted:Other M is Barrabas. Fusion is Pontius Pilate. I respect fusion for at least expanding the mythos in a good way and playing well. The Samus Returns remake on the 3DS was close to being good but hosed it up with some baffling design choices.
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Schlitzkrieg Bop posted:Hollow Knight is the best game that I did not enjoy whatsoever. This would also be my review of Hollow Knight. I didn’t enjoy one aspect of it but I’d still recommend it to most people that want a metroidvania. Super Metroid is still the best. SOTN would be close for me but navigating the inverted castle kinda sucks.
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Jan 20, 2019 02:27
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:I respect fusion for at least expanding the mythos in a good way and playing well. Fusion was a pretty good game but it paved the way for Other M
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Jan 20, 2019 02:28
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I just found out the the guys who did the Samus Returns remake also did the Lords of Shadow trilogy and suddenly those baffling design decisions make sense
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Jan 20, 2019 02:31
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I'll be happy as hell if they release Super Metroid on the switch.
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Jan 20, 2019 02:33
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Your Computer posted:I like videogames This isn't something you should just go around admitting.
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:I just found out the the guys who did the Samus Returns remake also did the Lords of Shadow trilogy and suddenly those baffling design decisions make sense Samus Returns was good though unlike those games.
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SeANMcBAY posted:Samus Returns was good though unlike those games. The counter system was goofy and the giant robot fight at the end was loving dogshit. Scrap those two things and it's almost perfect.
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