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I wish Ozawa would just gently caress off and die already.
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Oct 30, 2018 18:09
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I watched this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hESLPB3FiyY It basically says that Japan isn't suffering from populism and that's due to four big things or something like that.
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Jan 20, 2019 02:21
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There's no room for populism in Japan because basically everything that populists run on has been fully implemented in Japan for its entire post-war history.
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Jan 20, 2019 02:50
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Depends on what you mean by populism. Obviously there far-right groups in Japan, and Abe clearly shares a lot of their views, although he's weirdly pragmatic about it. He proposed some fascist-sounding constitutional amendments a while back, but in the face of public opposition he backed down and watered the proposals way down to essentially just making the JSDF explicitly constitutional, and it's unclear whether he'll succeed even at that. I think EasternBronze is only half-right; while Japan does already have jus sanguinis citizenship and very limited immigration, far-right "populists" around the world generally want rather worse things than that.
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Jan 20, 2019 03:43
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punk rebel ecks posted:I watched this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hESLPB3FiyY lol the literal Koch foundation Also a hearty lol at a libertarian organization lauding Japan
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Jan 20, 2019 04:27
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"Populism" is a euphemism/dogwhistle for fascism. They want fascism.
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Jan 20, 2019 04:27
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What part of modern Japan doesn't fit perfectly into a typical populist platform? Immigration is kept to a minimum, domestic corporate interests dictate major policy, visible minorities do not exist outside of entertainment, am I missing something here?
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Jan 20, 2019 05:39
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It’s run by elites who keep a low public profile, prefer that people don’t vote and don’t involve themselves in politics, and have such contempt for the realm of public reason and debate that the government ministries literally just make up data for public disclosure and destroy as many records as they can before the public can get their hands on them, and nothing is ever done about it? I’d think that that pretty much disqualifies Japan from the label of ‘populist’
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Jan 20, 2019 06:14
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LimburgLimbo posted:lol the literal Koch foundation Ian Bremmer is a regular on the centrist pundit circuit, writes for the likes of CNN and the Washington Post. He’s probably happy to take Koch money but he’s not really a libertarian. He exemplifies a pretty interesting phenomenon IMO, where that class of people have warmed up to Japan a lot over the last couple years, I feel like. 10 or 15 years ago Japan was the butt of jokes among those people, today they’re citing it as an example. The New York Times and Guardian still don’t like Japan very much, but I feel like they’re sort of resigned to the fact that all of the racist gawking and mockery they can put out didn’t have any effect on changing Japan’s behavior more in line with what white expat liberals would like. Meanwhile center-right elites are still securely in the saddle in Japan. The neoliberal-populist Regime Change rhetoric of the Koizumi and Ozawa days is gone, both in the LDP and the opposition. So in the eyes of the average WaPo columnist Japan is looking pretty good, and I think a lot of them are going to pretend that the last 30 years just didn't happen icantfindaname fucked around with this message at 06:48 on Jan 20, 2019 |
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Jan 20, 2019 06:30
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EasternBronze posted:What part of modern Japan doesn't fit perfectly into a typical populist platform? As I said, there's populism and then there's "populism". People like to use populism in the sense of "what the people want" as a way to say "gently caress the browns and gays". The modern concept of the word "populism" is racism, bigotry, xenophobia, unfettered inequality in wealth and rights, and absolute contempt for anyone that doesn't fit a very specific profile. Let me put it this way: Trump is considered "populist".
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Jan 20, 2019 06:41
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Pollyanna posted:As I said, there's populism and then there's "populism". People like to use populism in the sense of "what the people want" as a way to say "gently caress the browns and gays". The modern concept of the word "populism" is racism, bigotry, xenophobia, unfettered inequality in wealth and rights, and absolute contempt for anyone that doesn't fit a very specific profile. I guess we are in agreement here, because these all describe Japan pretty well.
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Jan 20, 2019 06:50
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As long as we mean "populism" and not populism 
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Jan 20, 2019 06:53
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He seems to think that Japan won't experience a Brexit or Trump situation. I also got a kick out of him saying that the American economy is "good" for working people.
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Jan 20, 2019 06:55
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I mean, japan is staggeringly anti-democratic and would seem prime for a populist reformer along the lines of andrew jackson. how such a figure could emerge in a one-party state is another matter
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Jan 20, 2019 07:07
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I would find the prospect very unlikely, for the basic fact that Japan's median age is around 50. The aging majority of the country is not going to vote for anything except bleeding the minority of young, working-age people dry.
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Jan 20, 2019 07:14
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EasternBronze posted:I would find the prospect very unlikely, for the basic fact that Japan's median age is around 50. The aging majority of the country is not going to vote for anything except bleeding the minority of young, working-age people dry. Since the LDP is already pretty conservative politically, it would be pretty hard for them to be defeated by a farther right party, but it's not like they're even that popular (all the other parties are just less popular) so a local politician who gets enough momentum could turn that into a political movement at the national level, although all the attempts to do that recently have failed pretty miserably.
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Jan 20, 2019 18:30
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I wonder what Japanese Trump would be like? Japanese Bolsonaro?
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Jan 20, 2019 19:47
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punk rebel ecks posted:I wonder what Japanese Trump would be like? I remember hearing that Yuriko Koike's party wore hats saying Make Japan Great Again. But not all right wing populists are identical. She might be very different from Trump in her overall goals for all I know.
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Jan 20, 2019 19:57
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punk rebel ecks posted:I wonder what Japanese Trump would be like?
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Jan 21, 2019 01:48
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There is no Japanese Trump at this point. There would need to be someone who can tie right wing ideology together with economic issues in a convincing way and nobody has been able to do that. Ishihara is definitely nothing like Trump and if I had to name someone I would say Makoto Sakurai but he's too blatant about hate speech and his attempt to run for governor of Tokyo didn't go very well.
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Jan 21, 2019 02:14
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The fixation on Japanese Koreans when they're less than 1% of the population is crazy to me. I guess if people wanna be racist they'll find someone to be racist against.
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Jan 21, 2019 02:29
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Badger of Basra posted:The fixation on Japanese Koreans when they're less than 1% of the population is crazy to me. I guess if people wanna be racist they'll find someone to be racist against. Dude there was a persecuted type of french people we only know exist because of the laws and rules blocking them from certain aspects of civil society but they seem to have seemlessly integrated because we have no records of what exactly defined these people and after a certain point nobody was being blocked by the rules.
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Jan 21, 2019 02:35
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mystes posted:There is no Japanese Trump at this point. There would need to be someone who can tie right wing ideology together with economic issues in a convincing way and nobody has been able to do that. Oh yes, I remember that dumpy Nobita-looking twat. I recall he tried to debate Hashimoto about something (probably Koreans), and was told to gently caress off because he's literally too racist to debate against.
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Jan 21, 2019 03:29
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Barudak posted:Dude there was a persecuted type of french people we only know exist because of the laws and rules blocking them from certain aspects of civil society but they seem to have seemlessly integrated because we have no records of what exactly defined these people and after a certain point nobody was being blocked by the rules. The Cagots, yeah. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cagot
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Jan 21, 2019 03:44
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxS-qKIkWpE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHJsoCAREsg Japan the next America? :O punk rebel ecks fucked around with this message at 05:22 on Jan 21, 2019 |
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Jan 21, 2019 05:19
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Ah poo poo I was wondering if there had been a change in how many of the right wing textbooks were being used. Back in 2005 only 0.4% of textbooks were the right wing ones, in 2009 it was 1.7%, 2011 jumped to 4%, and in 2015 was up to about 6%. So use is on the rise unfortunately. The company has for a long time said their goal was 10% if history textbooks. On the other hand though people that say that all Japanese textbooks are these crazy right wing things are definitely wrong, but the right wing control of education in Japan is definitely growing stronger.
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Jan 21, 2019 12:47
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On the bright side there isn't much of a next generation in Japan to indoctrinate anyway.
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Jan 21, 2019 12:55
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Speaking of the right wing: https://twitter.com/pinknews/status/1088685403450806274?s=21 It’s not like I expect the Japanese government to do the right thing, but 
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Pollyanna posted:Speaking of the right wing: This is more offensive than refusing to recognize transpeople to me.
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Jan 25, 2019 17:33
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punk rebel ecks posted:This is more offensive than refusing to recognize transpeople to me.  Pollyanna posted:It’s not like I expect the Japanese government to do the right thing, but technically it's an extremely "right" thing to do...
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Jan 25, 2019 17:38
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quote:Japan has among the toughest and most employee-friendly labour laws of any developed economy, says Pete Millett, director of recruitment firm People Services International. "Even though staff cuts are obviously necessary in the current economy and are definitely taking place here, they remain quite difficult to implement," he says. This and the fact that Japan has the most equal distribution of wealth in the world. And also the highest estate tax in the world. This poo poo is really perplexing, how it coexists with the popular image of salarymen working themselves to death, something most people would assume is a byproduct of a laissez-faire capitalist system
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Feb 13, 2019 08:11
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Graphic posted:This and the fact that Japan has the most equal distribution of wealth in the world. And also the highest estate tax in the world. This poo poo is really perplexing, how it coexists with the popular image of salarymen working themselves to death, something most people would assume is a byproduct of a laissez-faire capitalist system What exactly are you basing this statistic on? Nothing I've ever seen indicates this is even close to true. As far as the estate tax, I would assume that people simply skirt around it by hiding their wealth behind the corporate veil. My former boss inherited his company from his father who founded it, I sincerely doubt he paid 60% of the value of the company in taxes upon the founder's death. As far as employment laws go, yeah as written they are pretty great. Did you know housing discrimination is also against the law in Japan? Who could have thought?
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Feb 13, 2019 08:35
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as i understand it the salaryman thing is in large part because office workers get a major chunk of their pay in the form of bonuses, which means that you want to look as though you're working very hard, spending long hours etc
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Feb 13, 2019 09:15
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EasternBronze posted:What exactly are you basing this statistic on? Nothing I've ever seen indicates this is even close to true. Probably from this.
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Feb 13, 2019 09:19
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quote:The table below is for 2000, and is based on purchasing power parity (PPP) dollars, I'm more inclined to believe these post-great recession statistics. Something tells me however that the current government in Tokyo isn't going to be submitting these salaries into the wealth distribution statistics. Assuming that the officially reported figures are even reliable at all. EasternBronze fucked around with this message at 09:51 on Feb 13, 2019 |
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Feb 13, 2019 09:39
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V. Illych L. posted:as i understand it the salaryman thing is in large part because office workers get a major chunk of their pay in the form of bonuses, which means that you want to look as though you're working very hard, spending long hours etc Bonuses aren’t usually based off of performance, for most of the big companies they’re negotiated annually by the union and management. (My company does this). This will be different in purely white-collar companies but then the standards are disclosed. That discussion also ignores that over the last generation, the number of full-time full employees has decreased and the number on contracts - easier to cut and with less benefits - has grown. And the contract issue has definitely impacted the salaries of those in the Gen X and Millennial cohorts in Japan.
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Feb 13, 2019 11:12
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CEOs aren't generally making as much in Japan as other places, so if you look at CEOs vs white collar workers maybe Japan doesn't look that bad in terms of inequality, but as harperdc is saying, how often salarymen are fired seems almost irrelevant when you consider all the other factors such as the rapidly increasing number of temp/contract workers, (it's like like 40% of total workers now I think). Also certain recent news stories make me wonder how reliable the reported salaries for CEOs are anyway.
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Feb 13, 2019 15:07
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Pollyanna posted:Speaking of the right wing: Can someone explain why that's a requirement? I mean cruelty is the point but they got to justify it somehow.
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drilldo squirt posted:Can someone explain why that's a requirement? I mean cruelty is the point but they got to justify it somehow. mystes fucked around with this message at 22:58 on Feb 13, 2019 |
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