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BardoTheConsumer
Apr 6, 2017


I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!


Antifa Turkeesian posted:

I’ve never been happier to see a bunch of children doxxed. I hope they have a hard time until they’re 30.

This, but for the rest of their lives.

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Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.
How many of those kids are now gonna be offered full ride scholarships to Liberty U? Or do thy only take Evangelicals?

Blind Rasputin
Nov 25, 2002

Farewell, good Hunter. May you find your worth in the waking world.

https://twitter.com/dprk_news/status/1086737445406818304?s=21

Jack2142
Jul 17, 2014

Shitposting in Seattle

BardoTheConsumer posted:

This, but for the rest of their lives.

You never know maybe they will be the same.

Jealous Cow
Apr 4, 2002

by Fluffdaddy
Marcy thinks there is a scandal to be found in Rosenstein calling Mueller to ask about making a press release.

https://twitter.com/emptywheel/status/1086814326713995264?s=21

Otteration
Jan 4, 2014

I CAN'T SAY PRESIDENT DONALD JOHN TRUMP'S NAME BECAUSE HE'S LIKE THAT GUY FROM HARRY POTTER AND I'M AFRAID I'LL SUMMON HIM. DONALD JOHN TRUMP. YOUR FAVORITE PRESIDENT.
OUR 47TH PRESIDENT AFTER THE ONE WHO SHOWERS WITH HIS DAUGHTER DIES
Grimey Drawer

BardoTheConsumer posted:

This, but for the rest of their lives.

I am thinking that maybe we can make a decent argument that their parents /school/local society can absorb at least partial blame. Works for car insurers any way.

Hardly not unrelated but sorely needed tax:

logger
Jun 28, 2008

...and in what manner the Ancyent Marinere came back to his own Country.
Soiled Meat

eke out posted:

yesterday used anonymous DOJ sources to say that the SCO's statement was meant to tell everyone categorically that buzzfeed's reporting was wrong, period.

today the same reporters quote anonymous DOJ sources that walk that back significantly and are left only disputing whether Cohen was personally told to lie by Trump (and is there evidence of that), as opposed to being told by Trump's representatives

It did seem strange that Buzzfeed said they gave the SCO an opportunity to respond before the piece came out and got no answer, but if it truly was the DOJ demanding a response then it makes sense it took so long for one to come out. Saying something contains inaccuracies is a far cry from wholesale denying the story, and it seems like they are basically corroborating the story except for some minor factual errors. That is quite minimal of a denial for a forced response which does not look good for the Trump team.

JasonV
Dec 8, 2003
https://twitter.com/ChrisMurphyCT/status/1086758895819935745

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.

And the hole would only be fixed for 3 years until the cheap lumber gave way and collapsed the wall again.

CuddlyZombie
Nov 6, 2005

I wuv your brains.


that's really good

JasonV
Dec 8, 2003
https://twitter.com/brianschatz/status/1086761579117330432

Otteration
Jan 4, 2014

I CAN'T SAY PRESIDENT DONALD JOHN TRUMP'S NAME BECAUSE HE'S LIKE THAT GUY FROM HARRY POTTER AND I'M AFRAID I'LL SUMMON HIM. DONALD JOHN TRUMP. YOUR FAVORITE PRESIDENT.
OUR 47TH PRESIDENT AFTER THE ONE WHO SHOWERS WITH HIS DAUGHTER DIES
Grimey Drawer

I'm going to build a giant guilded penis in your back yard!

No.

But it will only cost you $5 billion!

No.

But I will keep your water off if I don't get my giant penis!

No.

But I'll let go of some of the neighborhood kids I kidnapped last week if you let me build my giant golden penis in your back yard!

No.

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007


this is very good

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal
Imagine if a dude drove his truck into your house on purpose and told you he wouldn't fix it until you paid him $5 billion to install one fencepost with his name on it at the edge of your yard.

Nail Rat
Dec 29, 2000

You maniacs! You blew it up! God damn you! God damn you all to hell!!
Those kids are so loving dumb. This is the social media generation you wastes of oxygen

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

haveblue posted:

Imagine if a dude drove his truck into your house on purpose and told you he wouldn't fix it until you paid him $5 billion to install one fencepost with his name on it at the edge of your yard.

And he's only discussing the solution with his passenger, while holding your utilities hostage until you agree to let him fix the hole

Skippy McPants
Mar 19, 2009

Nail Rat posted:

Those kids are so loving dumb. This is the social media generation you wastes of oxygen

You say that, but already there are personal accounts from non-white and LGBTQ+ folks who went to that school talking about all the poo poo that got dumped on them.

Point is, every time you see who of these idiot bigots being bigoted videos, remember that this isn't the first time they've done it. poo poo, this isn't even the first time they've done it in public. Carefree harassment and assault is their day-to-day. It just so happens that on this day they won—or lost—the viral video lottery.

Minenfeld!
Aug 21, 2012




I'm glad to have voted for this guy.

Zoph
Sep 12, 2005

This feels like a great time to mention that the Parkland kids went to a Public High School, in contrast.

Republicans
Oct 14, 2003

- More money for us

- Fuck you


Nail Rat posted:

Those kids are so loving dumb. This is the social media generation you wastes of oxygen

Nah these kids have and will live their entire lives in a bubble of smug entitlement that will protect them from any outside consequences. Just read up about what Stephen Miller was like in school.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Republicans posted:

Nah these kids have and will live their entire lives in a bubble of smug entitlement that will protect them from any outside consequences. Just read up about what Stephen Miller was like in school.

some of those kids are thankfully hosed though. sure those schools are fine with hurting various minorities but when something blows up this big and this badly for them and its on video. they will try to protect themselves and these little shits nationally/internationally embarrassed their school.. especially when big Catholics and others are calling them out. that one grinning shithead kid is gonna get expelled at least. the others will probably get other punishments. stephen miller didnt do some horrible poo poo that went viral while he was in school.

Tibalt
May 14, 2017

What, drawn, and talk of peace! I hate the word, As I hate hell, all Montagues, and thee

logger posted:

It did seem strange that Buzzfeed said they gave the SCO an opportunity to respond before the piece came out and got no answer, but if it truly was the DOJ demanding a response then it makes sense it took so long for one to come out. Saying something contains inaccuracies is a far cry from wholesale denying the story, and it seems like they are basically corroborating the story except for some minor factual errors. That is quite minimal of a denial for a forced response which does not look good for the Trump team.
But Leopod is a drug addict and Cohen is a sleazy lawyer so CLEARLY THERE IS NOTHING HERE! New Media cannot deliver reliable, factual reporting!

Now let me explain why fact checkers are evil and Democrats can't win the shutdown because WaPo both sidist editorials.

NoDamage
Dec 2, 2000
https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1086794456932732929

This WaPo "story about Buzzfeed's story" just makes things even more confusing. :confused:

eke out
Feb 24, 2013



NoDamage posted:

https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1086794456932732929

This WaPo "story about Buzzfeed's story" just makes things even more confusing. :confused:

marcy wheeler wrote a brief piece about this but the mere fact that the DAG apparently directly called and asked whether they were going to issue a response is likely a violation of the regulations that say there should be no day-to-day supervision of the special counsel

it says they were already formulating one, but frankly if your boss called you and said "So.. are you putting out a statement correcting this?" I think you'd get the message

i am harry
Oct 14, 2003


EVERY SINGLE SCHOOL IN NEW ORLEANS IS NOW A CHARTER SCHOOL.

RandomBlue
Dec 30, 2012

hay guys!


Biscuit Hider

i am harry posted:

EVERY SINGLE SCHOOL IN NEW ORLEANS IS NOW A CHARTER SCHOOL.

Few more years they just give kids an iPad and tell them figure poo poo out on their own. The schools will be replaced with Megachurches.

Priapus Unbound
Aug 28, 2011


Man, as a high school educator, gotta say that teachers and parents failed those kids. Like they were loving horrible but it looks like the culture at their school was a breeding ground for being horrible. I know that in my time teaching kids would occasionally say abhorrent poo poo, but part of teaching was educating kids away from doing that and building a classroom culture where disrespect of that nature wasn't tolerated.

I'm not sure how to feel about them being doxxed and called out on social media. On the one hand, I believe in the herd correcting the behavior of shitheads. Part of a strong classroom culture is empowering students to engage in a little corrective social exclusion of toxic assholes until they stop being toxic. On the other hand, I don't know that the twitter herd has the nuance to accept any personal growth on the part of these kids. I certainly hope they figure out how lovely their actions were and apologize and change their behaviors but it feels more likely that they retreat to their comfort zones and get reinforced in being lovely by a school that evidently doesn't try to teach them empathy for cultures other than white conservative Catholicism.

Google Butt
Oct 4, 2005

Xenology is an unnatural mixture of science fiction and formal logic. At its core is a flawed assumption...

that an alien race would be psychologically human.

Priapus Unbound posted:

Man, as a high school educator, gotta say that teachers and parents failed those kids. Like they were loving horrible but it looks like the culture at their school was a breeding ground for being horrible. I know that in my time teaching kids would occasionally say abhorrent poo poo, but part of teaching was educating kids away from doing that and building a classroom culture where disrespect of that nature wasn't tolerated.

I'm not sure how to feel about them being doxxed and called out on social media. On the one hand, I believe in the herd correcting the behavior of shitheads. Part of a strong classroom culture is empowering students to engage in a little corrective social exclusion of toxic assholes until they stop being toxic. On the other hand, I don't know that the twitter herd has the nuance to accept any personal growth on the part of these kids. I certainly hope they figure out how lovely their actions were and apologize and change their behaviors but it feels more likely that they retreat to their comfort zones and get reinforced in being lovely by a school that evidently doesn't try to teach them empathy for cultures other than white conservative Catholicism.

I'm pretty sure those kids are thinking and acting exactly as intended by the adults around them

CrazySalamander
Nov 5, 2009

i am harry posted:

EVERY SINGLE SCHOOL IN NEW ORLEANS IS NOW A CHARTER SCHOOL.

Is this a joke or are you serious?

Tibalt
May 14, 2017

What, drawn, and talk of peace! I hate the word, As I hate hell, all Montagues, and thee

CrazySalamander posted:

Is this a joke or are you serious?
Naw, NO is doing some weird poo poo with their public school system.

Old Kentucky Shark
May 25, 2012

If you think you're gonna get sympathy from the shark, well then, you won't.


CrazySalamander posted:

Is this a joke or are you serious?

No that is 100% real.

Levitate
Sep 30, 2005

randy newman voice

YOU'VE GOT A LAFRENIÈRE IN ME

CrazySalamander posted:

Is this a joke or are you serious?

They’re serious. It’s true

The Aardvark
Aug 19, 2013


CrazySalamander posted:

Is this a joke or are you serious?

https://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2019/01/15/charter-schools-new-orleans

eyebeem
Jul 18, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Google Butt posted:

I'm pretty sure those kids are thinking and acting exactly as intended by the adults around them

Very much this.

mod sassinator
Dec 13, 2006
I came here to Kick Ass and Chew Bubblegum,
and I'm All out of Ass

Priapus Unbound posted:

Man, as a high school educator, gotta say that teachers and parents failed those kids. Like they were loving horrible but it looks like the culture at their school was a breeding ground for being horrible. I know that in my time teaching kids would occasionally say abhorrent poo poo, but part of teaching was educating kids away from doing that and building a classroom culture where disrespect of that nature wasn't tolerated.

I'm not sure how to feel about them being doxxed and called out on social media. On the one hand, I believe in the herd correcting the behavior of shitheads. Part of a strong classroom culture is empowering students to engage in a little corrective social exclusion of toxic assholes until they stop being toxic. On the other hand, I don't know that the twitter herd has the nuance to accept any personal growth on the part of these kids. I certainly hope they figure out how lovely their actions were and apologize and change their behaviors but it feels more likely that they retreat to their comfort zones and get reinforced in being lovely by a school that evidently doesn't try to teach them empathy for cultures other than white conservative Catholicism.

I feel ya on that too, kids need space to grow and make mistakes that won't haunt them the rest of their lives. But they also can't be allowed to normalize or internalize racism either. I don't know the right answer unfortunately--I'm just happy I grew up without access to all this stuff because I'm sure I would have made mistakes I'd be regretting today. There probably needs to be a huge focus on educating kids how to be a citizen of the internet--that just because you're behind a keyboard or an anonymous handle doesn't mean you aren't hurting people or creating problems that will haunt you for the rest of your life. Like sex ed it needs to be early and everywhere.

Paradoxish
Dec 19, 2003

Will you stop going crazy in there?

CrazySalamander posted:

Is this a joke or are you serious?

We’re seriously burning this country down in ways that are going to be incredibly difficult to fix and that we’re going to be feeling the effects of for decades.

HORSEPORN
Oct 7, 2008

WoodrowSkillson posted:

I went to CC lol

Pages late but I went to OLSM. Even out level of douchebaggery was leveled out by the fact that whites are normally only ~35% of the school’s enrollment.

Brother rice is a special sort of shithole though.

Eeyo
Aug 29, 2004

About the catholic school kid stuff: I didn't realize until I started watching the full video that the group was doing the tomahawk chop, which is even worse. I feel like it's one thing to ironically dance and clap, but to invoke faux-native imagery is another. Like it's now explicitly "haha he's a native american how funny is that", there's not even a veneer of "we were just celebrating his music!".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIG5ZB0fw1k

Skippy McPants
Mar 19, 2009

Priapus Unbound posted:

Man, as a high school educator, gotta say that teachers and parents failed those kids. Like they were loving horrible but it looks like the culture at their school was a breeding ground for being horrible. I know that in my time teaching kids would occasionally say abhorrent poo poo, but part of teaching was educating kids away from doing that and building a classroom culture where disrespect of that nature wasn't tolerated.

I'm not sure how to feel about them being doxxed and called out on social media. On the one hand, I believe in the herd correcting the behavior of shitheads. Part of a strong classroom culture is empowering students to engage in a little corrective social exclusion of toxic assholes until they stop being toxic. On the other hand, I don't know that the twitter herd has the nuance to accept any personal growth on the part of these kids. I certainly hope they figure out how lovely their actions were and apologize and change their behaviors but it feels more likely that they retreat to their comfort zones and get reinforced in being lovely by a school that evidently doesn't try to teach them empathy for cultures other than white conservative Catholicism.

I'd argue that once these kids reach the point of harassing elderly native protesters they've also reached the point where a more serious correction is warranted. It isn't a question of ignorance anymore. They know they're being openly bigoted—i.e., the cruelty is the point—and they expect to get away with it. It's unfortunate their parents and schools failed them so miserably, but if you pull them aside at this point and try to shout sense into them, then you'd get the same smug "U MAD?" face that kid in the video is making. Greater social consequences might not even get through to them, but it at least reminds everyone that this poo poo should not be acceptable.

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Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013
Probation
Can't post for 11 hours!
Fairly significant explanation of the biggest issue/risk factor with the shutdown here:

https://twitter.com/JStein_WaPo/status/1086737025955438593

The administration is exploiting the difficulty of suing over Antideficiency Act compliance to selectively ignore it.

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