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There's still a bunch of stuff left to be resolved as a sort of aftermath. Like when Steven's gem was pulled out, it became a Gem Steven, so how did we get from Rose Quartz to Steven? How did Rose implant her gem into Steven unless it was somehow part of his birth??? There's still the whole extradimensional space stuff that's sorta out there in comparison to the gem technology we've seen so far too.
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Jan 22, 2019 06:39
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I am livid we didn't get some indication that the Jades are okay. I'm sure they are but c'mon!
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Jan 22, 2019 06:44
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Y'know, there's still loads of corrupted gems all over earth that the Crystal Gems didn't bubble up, still hanging out out there, ready to go gently caress up a quarry or a temple or something. And then when they get bubbled Steven has to call the Diamonds back to unfuck them one at a time There's your season 6
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Cabbit posted:I am livid we didn't get some indication that the Jades are okay. I'm still worried about those Zircons.
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Sockser posted:Y'know, there's still loads of corrupted gems all over earth that the Crystal Gems didn't bubble up, still hanging out out there, ready to go gently caress up a quarry or a temple or something. Probably the fountain will still work.
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Okay, yeah, that should've been a series finale. This story's had its problems but that's probably the best way to resolve it. Especially given that it has that feeling of imminent cancellation, so, let's tie everything up in case we don't get another season.
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Jan 22, 2019 06:48
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Aphra Bane posted:
Heh. I think it was an intentional callback. The most recent episode, the line that finally breaks White Diamond and saves the day: "Stop acting like such a child!" "...I am a child. What's your excuse?" Way back at the very beginning, in the pilot, the line that saves the day: "Why are you such a buttface?" "...I can't help it. What's your excuse?"
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Jan 22, 2019 06:50
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That was really sweet. I'd be totally satisfied and happy if that was the series finale.
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You know, as big as everyone around here is on pointing out anime references I'm surprised no one's pointed out White's similarity to Father from Full Metal Alchemist. Both have a white color scheme and like to just sit on their big white thrones. White, like Father, seems to regard any emotion as a weakness and (at least to me) strongly implies that the other Diamonds, like the Homunculi, are basically vessels for her cast off emotions. And both are ultimately defeated by those emotions (White being overwhelmed by Pink and just quitting as opposed to Father being straight up backstabbed by Greed). Just something I was thinking about. Maybe (probably) I'm seeing things that aren't there, but when White started talking about Blue and Yellow's flaws, that's all I could think of.
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Jan 22, 2019 07:11
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Steven just finished the Pacifist route.
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Jan 22, 2019 07:18
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Mr.Pibbleton posted:Zoo arc was great, the amethysts rushing in to offer emotional support was hilarious. Yeah while I agree with "Season 4 was the weakest season", I do like it more than most people seem to
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Waffleopolis posted:The movie could set something up. Honestly, I'm surprised there's a lack of a villainous human element in SU. I cannot imagine there's no human who would want their hands on Gem tech to make profit or rule over people. I could see government agencies maybe getting involved, but I'm pretty sure the shows not going to bother with actively aggressive humans.
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Jan 22, 2019 07:27
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Sea Lily posted:no, we did. the first thing he did was pull his shirt up and show the gem was back to normal on his belly I just watched it back and he didn't do that. Connie asked him if he was himself again. He responded with a "Yeah, I'm me. I've always been me." Steven's gem could actually be in the correct position now.
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Apparently the movie is coming out in fall? I've heard this a few places no idea if A) this is actually true or B) they'll air any episodes from season six between now and then.
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Digamma-F-Wau posted:Yeah while I agree with "Season 4 was the weakest season", I do like it more than most people seem to Same, it still had a lot of nice episodes. Kaiser Mazoku posted:Steven just finished the Pacifist route. Season 6: What if Steven just killed everyone
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:Apparently the movie is coming out in fall? I've heard this a few places no idea if A) this is actually true or B) they'll air any episodes from season six between now and then. Yah is true. At the end of the new episode, CN showed the movie trailer again and it confirmed Fall 2019.
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ThermoPhysical posted:Yah is true. At the end of the new episode, CN showed the movie trailer again and it confirmed Fall 2019. Oh neat! But if they're advertising the movie in Fall, but nothing from season six, I feel like that means no season 6 till 2020 :T maybe. Who knows. Eh, whatever, an hour long special just aired. To early to start complaining about hiatuses yet.
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I'm sort of deeply unsatisfied because even though It's long been clear that Steven Universe isn't a show that would kill it's villains or anything, I also still strongly dislike the diamonds and don't want to see them hanging out with the rest of the cast because gently caress those people. Oh well, whatever. I liked Obsidian and new Rainbow Quartz, plus Pearls jacket even though her design changing is really weird to me.
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Jan 22, 2019 08:07
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Remember how at the end of Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey and Truman Show, we kept cutting away to viewers losing their minds and it was like, "jesus, the overacting." It wasn't overacting.
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Jan 22, 2019 08:17
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Bobulus posted:Heh. I think it was an intentional callback. Nice! I thought it seemed familiar but I didn't realise how much they actually echoed each other.
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Jan 22, 2019 08:35
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Pearl jacket makes sense because it's kind of like her "cool" outfit from the Mike Krol episode. She's no longer dressed for war, she's dressed to go on a date.
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Jan 22, 2019 08:35
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I think my only complaint about Pearls new look is I don't like the bulky shoulders on the jacket.
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Caidin posted:I'm sort of deeply unsatisfied because even though It's long been clear that Steven Universe isn't a show that would kill it's villains or anything, I also still strongly dislike the diamonds and don't want to see them hanging out with the rest of the cast because gently caress those people. Yeah, I still hate the Diamonds as both characters and concepts too. But it's been pretty clear this is where the show was going to go for a while now. I'm a little surprised it got there so quickly, though.
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Jan 22, 2019 08:45
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Jan 22, 2019 08:58
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Jan 22, 2019 08:59
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Roth posted:Bring on the D-Reaper/Anti-Spirals D-Reaper arc was the best arc, if Steven Universe manages to pull something like that off I'll be pleased as punch.
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Hey so I'm just a baby brain boy, why did White think she was off colour? Because pink's aura made her look pink, and since she's white she can only become pink?
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The speed at which the diamonds were swayed did bug me and leaves some dissatisfaction, but I'm not upset that they aren't painted as irredeemable monsters that must be destroyed. This isn't a show about destroying evil, it's a show about evil being a concept that doesn't really exist. People in positions of power with harm others and suppress guilt because that is how the system works, the same way every individual in a terrible company or the members of an army, even close to the top, aren't just intrinsically evil. Steven Universe has always been about trying to connect to people and to show nobody is truly evil, they are a product of their environment and personalities and even the worst scum of the earth is that way for a reason. There's still plenty to show for them making up for their crimes, we didn't get that, but if the show is in fact getting another season then I hope they do a good job with that, but the first step combating system issues is to get people to empathize and self reflect and understand, which is most easily done with those closest to you. There's a reason a lot of people finally become accepting of LGBT or of race or class when it becomes both part of their lives and they are presented with undeniable proof that these are issues that exist and they make everyone miserable. For people like yellow and blue, they are part of the system of oppression and we have evidence that authority can make people do the worst things, both superiors and positions and enough being told that "this is the right way". For white, I think the best line is steven telling her to get out of her own head. There is so much to take away from that, and it really is the key to all of it. She controls everything because in her mind she has to, and when you're stuck in your own head you're either crippled by your own self reflections or you bury those and don't let anything change or sway your mind. For people like white you need to completely shatter their world view to change them, but you can, theoretically. For humans, maybe there is too far gone, maybe some people have gone too far into their own minds or things like mental illness stop them, but when you give irrefutable proof that something is real, and they genuinely hold that something as important to them, then you can begin the first step in changing them for the better. I won't deny there are probably a million flaws if you inspect it closely and compare it to real world tyranny, because of course there are going to be. But as far as trying to see it through a realistic lens, I think it fits what they were going for. Now for me, as someone who's life is intertwined with LGBT people and issues, I see the metaphor for family so much in this. In the show, changing white's mind about who steven is requires irrefutable proof through magical anime bullshit and mostly we all love that cause we're watching this show, but if you convert that to reality it can be equivalent to just sticking to who you are and managing to survive independently and never giving up no matter the oppression. Blue is like the family of an out person who eventually, finally, given enough time and enough push, realizes they've been making both of you miserable and takes a step to fix it. Yellow is the kind who manages the status quo and needs someone else close to stop them from suppressing themselves for the system or for their family or for whatever reason. White is the kind who in reality needs the very foundations of their beliefs proven wrong and be proven wrong again and again in quick succession until they leave they have no choice but to leave their head and beliefs. This is the rarest in reality because human brains are good at doubling down on beliefs in the face of contradictory evidence, but it is not impossible and SU is a show about hope. When you consider them a broken family, the kind where you know your racist grandparent has probably done some terrible things, where your siblings or parents might hurt others without thinking about it or because its their job, it becomes a lot easier to understand. And every real life villain is still a person with family or friends or a dedication to their villainy and aren't that way for no reason. I'm ok with an ending where the solution is communication, because I feel that it really is the solution, even if you have to fight to even get the chance and it takes a lot of talking and even a little violence to get to have that conversation. And who knows, maybe there's a kid watching this who's practically raised by a bunch of socialist nannies and has a parent or siblings who've bought into the system but through gay, singing, and crying, is able to convince their fascist dictator or greedy CEO family member who still loves them to change that much more while the bismuths of the world are more hands-on. I dunno, I get hopeful sometimes for some reason.
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Well, that certainly was an episode that pulled out all the stops. I'm still of the opinion that the end of season 5 was way too aggressively paced, but that was one heck of a finale. It took a total of 8 episodes to get from Steven being allowed to have a conversation with the Diamonds to here.Mr. Fowl posted:It's cute how all the formerly-corrupted gems are some flavor of Off Colors now. I wonder if this will mean a lot of them will stay on Earth for the time being, simply being of the Gem Empire's longstanding issues with Off Colors. Well, given that the first thing anyone said when White lost control of everything was Yellow saying "you've gone off-color," I think it's safe to say that Homeworld has already revised its Off Color policy. ThermoPhysical posted:I just watched it back and he didn't do that. Connie asked him if he was himself again. He responded with a "Yeah, I'm me. I've always been me." Steven's gem could actually be in the correct position now. Yeah, all you can see is the gem glowing through his shirt for a total of two frames, none of which betray its shape. I'll believe it's in the original diamond configuration until we get proof otherwise. This is the closest we'll ever get to seeing Steven get poofed and reform, after all.
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Very very good ep. Even if the coming hiatus lasts a billion years, at least the story has currently finished on a bit of a high note Well Pink Steven was very Akira-ish A bit  if you're squeemishhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vJxNePd8ew&t=17s The only way that ep could have been better was Lapidot  Goddammit make it happen already
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Also mega-blessed trash gremlin Peridot using a garbage can as her weapon It's garbage can Not garbage cannot!
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Best joke of the ep "Unbelievable!" "You better believe it!" "OK!"
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:Well, that certainly was an episode that pulled out all the stops. I'm still of the opinion that the end of season 5 was way too aggressively paced, but that was one heck of a finale. It took a total of 8 episodes to get from Steven being allowed to have a conversation with the Diamonds to here. that might be the CN squeeze where they are like you have 1 season left get it done. that being said  I dont want it to be over. It took me a long time to get into the show and season 4 and 5 were the loving best.
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chitoryu12 posted:He can be split into two beings by having his gem removed, with the Pink Diamond entity being basically invincible. I actually had a similar theory (and I stole it for an idea of my own) that Steven is basically a single-minded symbiote of sorts. Gems are strongly hinted to function more or less like solid state hard drives, and Rose Quartz willingly 'formatted' herself to create a Gem that's also a human infant. (though it seems like some residual data survived, it may be partly because of Pink Diamond's unique mind-drifting ability) Gem!Steven is creepy, likely on purpose. I get the feeling that the split halves are carved off parts of his full personality that aren't really functional on their own. Also confirmed the theory I saw ITT that that formerly corrupted Gems still retain permanent evidence of that corruption after the cure. Definitely felt it was a little rushed, though I can't be mad, maybe because some of that animation was goddamn beautiful. Though thing is, I don't think White Diamond, and to an extent the other Diamonds, have been redeemed necessarily, but White at least has been defeated. Her secret is exposed, it's clear that Steven is one Gem that her bleaching mind control doesn't work on, and the other Diamonds aren't as afraid of her anymore. To go with the racist relative angle, it's exposing the matriarch's dirty secret and telling her she can come along, apologise to her kids and be polite at Thanksgiving or be cut off from seeing her grandchildren for the rest of her life. And maybe along the way she might learn a thing or two. ...of course, the metaphor and messages are complicated by how Gems are unaging, while a terrible human being is always going to die eventually, an immortal Gem is going to still be around indefinitely unless you shatter them, and if you don't want to do that then you might as well try to rehabilitate them. Possibly might work in that hate, oppression and bigotry aren't problems that can ever really go away forever, you need to be constantly vigilant and work hard to fight them. I do wonder if Peridot and Lapis spent a bunch of time watching anime, given their new outfits. I get the feeling this isn't necessarily the finale, though certainly would serve as one and the scheduling makes since if CN wanted to drag it out as much as possible (see Gravity Falls) but basically a larger version of the show's usual arc structure; major status quo changing arcs tend to be foreshadowed a little but otherwise drop quite suddenly, and there's a lot more episodes afterwards focusing on the cool-down and repercussions of them. Also, those new fusions are amazing. Sunstone somehow seems fitting as the most ridiculously 80s character yet, while Obsidian looks like an Aztec deity. Oh, Lapis' new pants having a gold cord may be a reference to real life Lapis Lazuli stones having a gold vein in them. Ghost Leviathan fucked around with this message at 13:32 on Jan 22, 2019 |
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maltesh posted:Guess they can fix the Galaxy Warp now. Might not be a good idea to forge such a connection with Homeworld so soon. Also, Sunstone is every single 80s/90s Saturday morning cartoon, right down to the cheesy motivational one-liners.
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AkumaHokoru posted:that might be the CN squeeze where they are like you have 1 season left get it done. that being said It's not, the movie is coming out in fall and we have (at least) one more season after that.
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