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T-man posted:Can't have cops if you don't have a state.  as long as there are humans there's always gonna be some strong guy with a bigger stick telling everyone else what to do. Cops are pretty terrible but they're actually probably the least bad of the possible options
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T-man posted:Can't have cops if you don't have a state.
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Fatty Crabcakes posted:And what would the alternative be? Peloponnesian city-states.
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sunken fleet posted:
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sunken fleet posted:
I assume everyone who goes "there will always be a Master who will rule over the weak" is secretly into some DD/lg kink and/or the metaphorical stick is a dick. Which, y'know, you do you but I'm too much of an existentialist e: Fatty Crabcakes posted:And what would the alternative be? anarchist communes and lots of weed
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Fatty Crabcakes posted:And what would the alternative be? 
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Midnight Voyager posted:Are you sure? I think this puts it best https://twitter.com/stavvybaby/status/1087532397359435783?s=19
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zoux posted:
One thing that everyone agrees is great for the environment is nuclear warfare
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Can't have global warming if we have nuclear winter
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If climate change is real, explain the stratospheric layer of atomized debris and earth that currently blots out the sun, destroying all civilization, libs.
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Love too do centrism https://twitter.com/ChrisCuomo/status/1087754145145208832 Wohl: I heard that Kamala Harris is uh a lizard person from the Killuminati Cuomo: When will Harris address these shocking claims
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sunken fleet posted:
People who say things like this think they’re really smart and have a sober understanding of the practical reality of whatever thing is being discussed but they’re actually brainless pieces of poo poo too stupid to contemplate anything other than an eternalized status quo, and enough of a rube to be convinced the truisms they repeat are actually natural law and not just backwards socially constructed consensus Plus only a piece of poo poo idiot actually thinks everyone is bad and evil like them so we need more rapacious squads of wandering socially empowered bandits
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Frog Act posted:People who say things like this think they’re really smart and have a sober understanding of the practical reality of whatever thing is being discussed but they’re actually brainless pieces of poo poo too stupid to contemplate anything other than an eternalized status quo, and enough of a rube to be convinced the truisms they repeat are actually natural law and not just backwards socially constructed consensus These are the same people that 300 years ago would argue the only functional government has a king in them somewhere.
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How many societies have existed in which nobody ever decided "I want more than I have" and worked to take charge over other people? The only one I know of was the Moriori of the Chatham Islands. They had an extremely pacifist culture because they were a small population in an area with limited food security, so they outlawed all forms of killing and war and learned to handle all aspects of life peacefully to avoid dying out from conflict. Then in the 1830s the Maori sailed over and completely exterminated them.
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love 2 lovingly guide the jackboot onto my own neck
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MizPiz posted:Sorry, but the CIA are the kings of MLK day this year I agree that it's hilarious to see them praise MLK, but I'm not sure what their alternative is. Ignore it, while the other government agencies are posting tributes? That doesn't look good. Apologizing for their treatment of him? That would be awesome, but there's no way anyone would sign off on that. Posting a generic feel-good blurb is the lesser of the evils, brand-wise.
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Frog Act posted:People who say things like this think they’re really smart and have a sober understanding of the practical reality of whatever thing is being discussed but they’re actually brainless pieces of poo poo too stupid to contemplate anything other than an eternalized status quo, and enough of a rube to be convinced the truisms they repeat are actually natural law and not just backwards socially constructed consensus Turn your Monitor on, etc etc.
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Here's all you need to know about statism
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sunken fleet posted:
This gets thoroughly disproven anytime a police force goes on strike or is otherwise effectively shutdown (like in the aftermath of severe natural disasters). The only "strong guy with a bigger stick" is the state.
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Frog Act posted:People who say things like this think they’re really smart and have a sober understanding of the practical reality of whatever thing is being discussed but they’re actually brainless pieces of poo poo too stupid to contemplate anything other than an eternalized status quo, and enough of a rube to be convinced the truisms they repeat are actually natural law and not just backwards socially constructed consensus So what stops the stateless society from becoming tribalism and then feudalism and then monarchy all over again this time? E: MizPiz posted:This gets thoroughly disproven anytime a police force goes on strike or is otherwise effectively shutdown (like in the aftermath of severe natural disasters). The only "strong guy with a bigger stick" is the state. This is some "it's cold outside so global warming isn't real" scope mishandling.
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But can we at least agree that when a cop pulls over a person that is passing traffic by going into the bike lane, is good schadenfraude?
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Somfin posted:So what stops the stateless society from becoming tribalism and then feudalism and then monarchy all over again this time? Feudalism did not arise from lack of a state or tribalism what are you on about. Feudalism arose specifically under the ward of a state in fact.
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Midnight Voyager posted:Are you sure? is that steven king author and does he have brain worms? i get that its a misquoute but unless he is tpusa levels of trumpers the fbi or cia commenting about how they love mlk is going to remain the biggest  of mlk dayLeavemywife posted:What did she do that was so bad? A very quick scan of her Wiki page didn't yield anything useful. female joe aripagio but in a higher position of power. snergle has a new favorite as of 19:57 on Jan 22, 2019 |
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snergle posted:is that steven king author and does he have brain worms? i get that its a misquoute but unless he is tpusa levels of trumpers the fbi or cia commenting about how they love mlk is going to remain the biggest I think that's an elected representative, not Stephen King
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Serperoth posted:I think that's an elected representative, not Stephen King just googled him and jesus gently caress. Ok he wins
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Did the FBI tweet this year? Because if so I have to give it to them by default considering they actually wrote him a letter telling him to kill himself
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christmas boots posted:Did the FBI tweet this year? Because if so I have to give it to them by default considering they actually wrote him a letter telling him to kill himself They did in 2017.
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CharlestheHammer posted:Feudalism did not arise from lack of a state or tribalism what are you on about. You're right, feudalism was the wrong term. You think tribalism won't exist in a stateless society?
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Somfin posted:So what stops the stateless society from becoming tribalism and then feudalism and then monarchy all over again this time? By using macro-mutual aid system that provides people with a good standard of living and incentives the creation of non-hierarchical, egalitarian organizations in place of the government and private industry. And if someone tries to reinstate a hierarchical system, then it means that they've volunteered to be made into a gruesome example by their community.
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snergle posted:is that steven king author and does he have brain worms? i get that its a misquoute but unless he is tpusa levels of trumpers the fbi or cia commenting about how they love mlk is going to remain the biggest Horror novelist Stephen King is just a boomer lib. Iowa congressman Steve King is the most openly racist person in national politics.
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hyperhazard posted:There is a 99% chance this guy is a serial killer and a 100% chance he has a DeviantArt with people morphing into shoes. Didn't you hear? Serial killing is out. Violent weirdos are doing mass shootings now
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MizPiz posted:By using macro-mutual aid system that provides people with a good standard of living and incentives the creation of non-hierarchical, egalitarian organizations in place of the government and private industry. Yeah, a big mistake people make is thinking that a stateless society doesn't condone violence. BIG mistake.
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CharlestheHammer posted:These are the same people that 300 years ago would argue the only functional government has a king in them somewhere. "Listen—I say that justice is nothing other than the advantage of the stronger."
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I took a political test and it said I was a communist and I've been trying to process that.
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Of all the dumbass derails in the history of this thread, trying to debate statism vs anarchism has got to be in the top ten.
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