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Jarmak posted:Ah yes the "I won't vote for someone who used to be a "cop" because she made her career arresting minorities so it's better to let the guy get elected that's currently putting minorities in concentration camps by the thousands" principled approach. Wasn't she a prosecutor?
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TCD posted:Wasn't she a prosecutor? She was a DA and then AG. She had a pretty bad history of doing everything she could to uphold convictions, even if it turned out cops/DAs held back exculpatory evidence. She also supported criminalizing the act of being a parent of a too-often truant child. She would be better, overall, then Trump, but it's rough going for her to explain all that. A cop may be an rear end in a top hat to you or, in rare cases, kill you, but DAs and AGs have a lot more power to make poo poo worse or better for thousands or millions of people. Some will point out that it was much tougher for a D woman to succeed professionally if perceived as "soft on crime" when she was coming up professionally, but there's still more she could have done or could do now to help people who got hosed over by fraught convictions with falsified evidence or hidden exculpatory evidence.
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Can't we wait till she actually wins the primary before we start talking about the necessity of voting for the lesser evil? Just an idea.
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https://twitter.com/AaronBlake/status/1088078593673125888 Will it be at another chud rally or will it be an all you can eat buffet of "local" fastfood (but not taco bell, cause thats mexican)
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I'm a big fan of Pete Buttigieg, who's basically a less angry, 36 year old Bernie Sanders. He's also a gay Afghanistan veteran who got elected as a mayor in Indiana. So I'm gonna vote for him probably and hope that we at least end up with someone under the age of 50.
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Hot Karl Marx posted:trump came up with a little jingle so expect to see/hear it a bunch lately very prescient https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1088058726794387456
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mlmp08 posted:She was a DA and then AG. She had a pretty bad history of doing everything she could to uphold convictions, even if it turned out cops/DAs held back exculpatory evidence. She also supported criminalizing the act of being a parent of a too-often truant child. There’s also this. https://thinkprogress.org/california-attorney-general-says-her-offices-defense-of-prison-labor-evokes-chain-gangs-5c768fd447a4/ Note that nowhere does she say that she would change what her office is doing or that it is wrong.
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TCD posted:Wasn't she a prosecutor? Yeah hence the quotes around "cop", the person I was quoting was referring to her as such.
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Thalantos posted:I'm a trans woman living in a red state who barely makes money above the poverty line and I'm not going to vote for kamala harris if she gets the nom. lol and yet mine is the mischaracterization you take issue with
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Hot Karl Marx posted:https://twitter.com/AaronBlake/status/1088078593673125888 the visuals of this will own
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Crakkerjakk posted:Can't we wait till she actually wins the primary before we start talking about the necessity of voting for the lesser evil? Just an idea. You must not be familiar with the internet
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I want Pelosi to schedule a press conference at the same time announcing a deal (70% tax on people who own golf courses to pay for the wall, complete amnesty for all illegal immigrants, and a law banning the GSA from renewing any leases on the Old Post Office), so the press is forced to split coverage.
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Lesser of two evils isn't a good enough reason to vote for many people. The whole Hilary thing just happened, how are we already pushing the same tired bullshit again
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Relentlessboredomm posted:Lesser of two evils isn't a good enough reason to vote for many people. Because as much as things change they always stay the same
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Any vote that isn’t cast in favour of the person who has the best chances of beating Trump is a vote for Trump, basically. That person will be the dem candidate. It would be best if that person could rally as many people as possible, and that’s why people should get involved in the primaries. Once the primaries are over you should swallow your pride and vote for that person because otherwise you are essentially voting for Trump. Sorry fascism is getting in the way of your principles.
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Do you guys want nazis in the streets? Because this is how you get nazis.
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Relentlessboredomm posted:Lesser of two evils isn't a good enough reason to vote for many people. The people who didn't vote or voted third party or voted for Trump because "ugh, Hillary again" in competitive states are loving morons. There was a clearly superior choice in that first past the post election. That Trump was even remotely competitive is far more an indictment of the electorate than Clinton.
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I'll bitch about it on the internet before and after, but on election day I'm pulling the lever for whomever wins the dem ticket. Just like I did in 2016 because I'm not that much of a loving moron. I just hope the primaries aren't over with by the time VA gets to vote, because that's where my ~political identity~ gets a chance.
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It'd be great if the primaries flesh out and decide for a candidate we are all glad to support. No one's arguing against that right now. However, once that person is decided, for better or worse, they're not Trump and apart from maybe Tulsi I don't know that there's someone as poo poo as that on the ticket.
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Relentlessboredomm posted:Lesser of two evils isn't a good enough reason to vote for many people. Hilary didn't lose because people didn't want to vote for the lesser of two evil. She lost because she underestimated the Trump and didn't energize, appealed or engaged in the democratic base. Which is why she lost in key demographic states. I have problems with Kamala but the real problem is the democrat party not learning from their mistakes, running a  campaign for 2020, appealing for the moderate republicans and kicking a nascent leftist base to the side because "they are too young".Edit: i meant "democratic base" ElMaligno fucked around with this message at 18:21 on Jan 23, 2019 |
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i voted for hillary bc i wanted to i dont wanna vote for harris but if shes the candidate then whelp
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I voted Ardern it's me I'm the problem
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Crakkerjakk posted:Can't we wait till she actually wins the primary before we start talking about the necessity of voting for the lesser evil? Just an idea. Not an emptyquote
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https://twitter.com/nytpolitics/status/1088098961875980289 thanks joe
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The conditions that gave us Trump are not only still present, they're getting worse. You can either elect people willing to make drastic and immediate change, or keep electing status quo candidates and then pearl clutch vecause people like Trump don't sugar coat the policies you tacitly support.
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FrozenVent posted:Any vote that isn’t cast in favour of the person who has the best chances of beating Trump is a vote for Trump, basically. You get that vote shaming isn't a super effective tactic right? Especially when huge swaths of the country are getting worse regardless of president. That aside, I hate the "vote for the person best able to beat trump" because it's a bullshit premise. We have no idea who's best able to beat Trump, just vote for the candidate that's supporting policies/changes you believe in and wait to make decisions based on polling.
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Say it ain't so Joe.
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It’s a horrible feature that the worst the country gets the more likely these people will vote for strongly bigly men like Trump. Trump has no incentive to improve anything.
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LingcodKilla posted:It’s a horrible feature that the worst the country gets the more likely these people will vote for strongly bigly men like Trump. Trump has no incentive to improve anything. The worse the country gets the more likely people are to look outside of normal politics for answers. We just need to steer them towards socialism and away from fascists "just" I realize that's an insanely difficult thing to do
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You're just too young to understand the importance of reaching across the aisle, also why have you not already bought two houses
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https://twitter.com/Bencjacobs/status/1057685158814535680 How We Destroy Lives Today quote:In this one episode, you had a gentle, 64-year-old Native American man being swarmed by white (boo!), male (boo!), preppy (double boo!) Trump supporters (infinite boo!). If you are trying to rub the pleasure centers of a liberal audience, this is truly a story too good to check. edit: https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1088105599496318976 you guys won the last war in the jungle right?? Hot Karl Marx fucked around with this message at 17:52 on Jan 23, 2019 |
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There's multiple generations of voters whose adult life spans a period of time when republicans weren't patently disingenuous and outright evil in word and deed. They're starting to die off because the GOP has been this way for decades now but in the meantime they're going to keep on trusting Lucy not to yoink the football at the last moment.
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Joe Biden, who is not even a democrat
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ElMaligno posted:Hilary didn't lose because people didn't want to vote for the lesser of two evil. She lost because she underestimated the Trump and didn't energize, appealed or engaged in the democratic. Which is why she lost in key demographic states. The correct take.
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Tony Blair is dumb as a loving post.
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