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Pablo Nergigante
Apr 16, 2002

GreyjoyBastard posted:

only when a bunch of idiots swarm in to posture about imperialism and apologize for Maduro

Oh word?

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Guze
Oct 10, 2007

Regular Human Bartender

Brony Car posted:

So if the world is objectively much worse in 12 years due to climate change but has not cracked in half, who wins? AOC or the Right Wing?

Well, not all of us are dead. :smuggo:

Break out the pinnochios.

pookel
Oct 27, 2011

Ultra Carp

cheetah7071 posted:

Customs serves an important purpose and some border security is required for that but the notion that we need to spend billions of dollars keeping people out is a capitulation to the right's talking points
I'd like to see the Democrats support funding for "border security" but specify that it be used for things like processing asylum claims faster & making it easier for refugees to come here. Maybe expanded DACA and a guest worker program. And just keep calling these programs "border security" loudly and insistently, and accuse Trump of creating a border crisis by refusing to adequately fund programs like this.

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser


Fritz Coldcockin posted:

Trump. Or at least, he'll declare it on Twitter while swilling a Big Mac milkshake through a straw because he no longer has any teeth.

He has very strong teeth he just doesn't show them because he knows we would be scared of how powerful

paternity suitor
Aug 2, 2016

Skippy McPants posted:

Stick a zero on each of those percents and you'll get my attention.

I’m assuming it’s an annual tax, so no, you don’t want to tax someone’s wealth at 20-30%, which would make them do absolutely reckless things to maintain that wealth.

2-3% is actually around the sweet spot because it’s slighlt more than inflation. I’d like to read Thomas Pickettys take on this.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

Nissin Cup Nudist posted:

Of the little I know about Venezuela right now, I think Maduro actually is that stupid

i'm less concerned about maduro going "lol i'm arresting your embassy personnel for crimes against the Bolivarian Revolution" than about something stupid eventually happening with the lovely little militias

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

What is the attitude of some of the resident tankies vs the Goons actually living there?

there aren't too many goons still living there, they've mostly emigrated to places where they can earn money, buy basic goods, and also aren't at constant risk of kidnapping or murder fled to plot the destruction of Latin American socialism from their cushy penthouses in Spain, Portugal, and Miami

paternity suitor
Aug 2, 2016

I really hope this wealth tax becomes part of the Democratic Party plank in 2020. It’s more important than income tax. I’d probably vote for anyone that ran on it.

Sir Lemming
Jan 27, 2009

It's a piece of JUNK!

FBS posted:

Breitbart has an ApOCalypse Countdown Clock on literally every page on their web site:



Surprised they didn't spell it Kortez Kountdown Klock

Owlofcreamcheese
May 22, 2005
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!
Buglord

Brony Car posted:

So if the world is objectively much worse in 12 years due to climate change but has not cracked in half, who wins? AOC or the Right Wing?

12 years is the year we can no longer get less than 2C temperature rise at 2100 no matter when we peak emissions. It's not the date anything particular happens or the date the climate gets bad or something.

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser


PENILE ALERT

https://twitter.com/samstein/status/1088514156301635589?s=19

mdemone
Mar 14, 2001


If I kill myself first, I won't have to find out!

BigBallChunkyTime
Nov 25, 2011

Kyle Schwarber: World Series hero, Beefy Lad, better than you.

Illegal Hen

He was just evicted from the Celebrity Big Brother house so my guess is he whipped it out and showed it to someone.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.
MSNBC is on and it sounds like the Votes will be soon.

Owlofcreamcheese
May 22, 2005
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!
Buglord

whom from mario kart does it look?

pookel
Oct 27, 2011

Ultra Carp

FBS posted:

Breitbart has an ApOCalypse Countdown Clock on literally every page on their web site:


Imagine how much time & effort it took for them to find a photo of AOC that is THAT unflattering.

mdemone
Mar 14, 2001

a single gunshot echoes through the thread

Pylons
Mar 16, 2009


Is Mooch about to become a unit of measurement as well as time?

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant

Skippy McPants posted:

Stick a zero on each of those percents and you'll get my attention.
Yeah. 30% above 1B is a good start to pay for everyone's college and actually fund poo poo.

Call it the US PRIDE act or something and make those idiots race to be the next one to donate to society for once.

Der Waffle Mous
Nov 27, 2009

In the grim future, there is only commerce.

GreyjoyBastard posted:

there aren't too many goons still living there, they've mostly emigrated to places where they can earn money, buy basic goods, and also aren't at constant risk of kidnapping or murder fled to plot the destruction of Latin American socialism from their cushy penthouses in Spain, Portugal, and Miami

boots riley sharing a tweet more or less saying that venezuelans with internet access are basically like old cuban expats angry they got their mansions taken was gross as gently caress.

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser


Owlofcreamcheese posted:

whom from mario kart does it look?

Birdo

InsertPotPun
Apr 16, 2018

Pissy Bitch stan

"I'm black from the waist down."

Edit: not a joke. That's what he told reporters.

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf

Wasn't a nude selfie supposedly part of Mueller's giant collection of evidence in some case?

PIZZA.BAT
Nov 12, 2016


:cheers:


coffeetable posted:

IANAconsitutional scholar: would you need an amendment for a wealth tax?

hell no. Congress has the right to levy taxes however it sees fit.

Xequecal
Jun 14, 2005

Brony Car posted:

So if the world is objectively much worse in 12 years due to climate change but has not cracked in half, who wins? AOC or the Right Wing?

That depends on how much the political climate has shifted in 12 years and how much people still care about the third world, because it's going to be them doing the dying.

ReidRansom
Oct 25, 2004


paternity suitor posted:

I really hope this wealth tax becomes part of the Democratic Party plank in 2020. It’s more important than income tax. I’d probably vote for anyone that ran on it.

¿Porque no los dos?

Important to have both, imo. The wealth tax helps prevent continued accumulation at the top to a degree, yes, but there also needs to be a disincentive at some level of salary to continue to amass a larger and larger one such that some of those corporate revenues work their way down to lower-salaried employees. And so you also need to control things like stock buybacks as well, make that more expensive than it's worth. You can't just take money away from the rich, you need to incentivize natural distribution into the wider economy instead of just through government spending.

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser


Dumbest question I've ever asked.

Can we just shut off power at night to most people? What if like, use electricity during the day. At night, when it's dark. Just like, go to bed? Could they do that? I feel like maybe that would cut emissions a lot?

Arrgytehpirate
Oct 2, 2011

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!



Tibalt posted:

Okay this is hella late but where the heck are you living if you can't afford Pittsburgh prices?

I've spent the last year razzing on my buddy from college because, even though he makes twice as much as me, I can afford a wedding and a house in Pittsburgh while he can't afford an apartment and anniversary dinner in New York.

I’m in West Virginia right now. I don’t doubt that I could afford to live there but actually getting there is a challenge.

My lease runs May-May which gives makes for a very short window to actually get a job and move.
Then I need to have first/last saved up which isn’t too unmanageable.

I’m making a big effort to pay off my debt this year so ideally I’ll be able to save to make the move easier after I’m debt free.

I applied for a few jobs up there to try move in 2019, but didn’t get any. I guess I’ll try again for 2020.

selec
Sep 6, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 9 hours!
Is “imperialism” like “identity politics” where when WE do it, it’s just invisible/normal/“foreign policy” but when THEY do it it’s “imperialism”?

It smells like it.

spunkshui
Oct 5, 2011



InsertPotPun posted:

"I'm black from the waist down."

Edit: not a joke. That's what he told reporters.

I bet he has a huge dick and is a huge dick so it never gets any use.


“Anthony Scaramucci was fired as White House communications director after only 10 days on the job last summer. It was a position he accepted without telling his wife, Deidre Ball, who was nine months pregnant, and today Ball spoke out about her decision to file for divorce as a result.”

He definitely is a huge dick.

coffeetable
Feb 5, 2006

TELL ME AGAIN HOW GREAT BRITAIN WOULD BE IF IT WAS RULED BY THE MERCILESS JACKBOOT OF PRINCE CHARLES

YES I DO TALK TO PLANTS ACTUALLY

Rex-Goliath posted:

hell no. Congress has the right to levy taxes however it sees fit.
thanks! but then why was the 16th amendment needed?

CuddleCryptid
Jan 11, 2013

Things could be going better

AlBorlantern Corps posted:

Dumbest question I've ever asked.

Can we just shut off power at night to most people? What if like, use electricity during the day. At night, when it's dark. Just like, go to bed? Could they do that? I feel like maybe that would cut emissions a lot?

Maybe if you live in California, but anywhere that gets snow would be no-go

In reality no, you can't just deny people basic resources

spunkshui
Oct 5, 2011



Quote != edit

:(

Arrgytehpirate
Oct 2, 2011

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!



AlBorlantern Corps posted:

Dumbest question I've ever asked.

Can we just shut off power at night to most people? What if like, use electricity during the day. At night, when it's dark. Just like, go to bed? Could they do that? I feel like maybe that would cut emissions a lot?

I can’t wait to freeze to death in the winter in my electric heated apartment while not charging my phone

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant

Rex-Goliath posted:

hell no. Congress has the right to levy taxes however it sees fit.


A constitutional amendment fixing a base floor for wealth taxes at 20% above 5 million, and 75% above 1 Billion, plus an estate tax floor of 85%, would be nice though!

ewiley
Jul 9, 2003

More trash for the trash fire

FilthyImp posted:

Yeah. 30% above 1B is a good start to pay for everyone's college and actually fund poo poo.

Call it the US PRIDE act or something and make those idiots race to be the next one to donate to society for once.

The problem with a wealth tax is liquidating even 1-2% of everyone's wealth annually would lead to the stock market absolutely tanking and a massive shift of wealth to tax havens (even more than now). This might be your desired outcome, but it would not be popular.

OctaMurk
Jun 21, 2013

FilthyImp posted:

Yeah. 30% above 1B is a good start to pay for everyone's college and actually fund poo poo.

Call it the US PRIDE act or something and make those idiots race to be the next one to donate to society for once.

Taking 30% of peoples wealth would either result in them doing even more heinous poo poo to keep that wealth, or an unsustainable tax base once that wealth is all taxed away.

BigBallChunkyTime
Nov 25, 2011

Kyle Schwarber: World Series hero, Beefy Lad, better than you.

Illegal Hen

AlBorlantern Corps posted:

Dumbest question I've ever asked.

Can we just shut off power at night to most people? What if like, use electricity during the day. At night, when it's dark. Just like, go to bed? Could they do that? I feel like maybe that would cut emissions a lot?

Food would spoil in refrigerators, medications would go bad (insulin, etc), some people need life saving CPAP or Oxygen treatments at night, so it wouldn't be a good idea.

Spaced God
Feb 8, 2014

All torment, trouble, wonder and amazement
Inhabits here: some heavenly power guide us
Out of this fearful country!



AlBorlantern Corps posted:

Dumbest question I've ever asked.

Can we just shut off power at night to most people? What if like, use electricity during the day. At night, when it's dark. Just like, go to bed? Could they do that? I feel like maybe that would cut emissions a lot?

I mean.... There are people who work night shifts who would like to be able to use electricity

Eta also I'm a college student and if my paper gets hosed because I hit electricity curfew I'd be pissed

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser


Arrgytehpirate posted:

I can’t wait to freeze to death in the winter in my electric heated apartment while not charging my phone

You'd be rationed enough for heating.

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Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer

AlBorlantern Corps posted:

Dumbest question I've ever asked.

Can we just shut off power at night to most people? What if like, use electricity during the day. At night, when it's dark. Just like, go to bed? Could they do that? I feel like maybe that would cut emissions a lot?

In Wisconsin, electricity is tied to heat generation. Also this assumes that no one needs to do anything at night or is even allowed to do things at night, which is bizarre.

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