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Jan 24, 2019 19:53
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I HATE the source material. But Urban and Starr make that an absolute can not miss for me.
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Jan 24, 2019 19:58
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I like The Boys but I didn't have Ennis overload when it started. I liked the general plot concept, but it definitely got a bit too Ennis after a bit.
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Jan 24, 2019 20:03
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Azubah posted:In a vacuum, sure, he fits there. He's been part of the Titans for a long time and YJ is basically that. and? what should the alternative be? not using him at all? Stuff where he actually FITS shouldn't be looked at the same way as that other stuff. The last thing we need is for a prominent poc character to be made persona non grata
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Jan 24, 2019 20:28
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Medullah posted:I like The Boys but I didn't have Ennis overload when it started. I liked the general plot concept, but it definitely got a bit too Ennis after a bit. Yeah there's something salvageable there if you trim out the egregious Ennis-ness but... Seth Rogan so welp
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Jan 24, 2019 20:47
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Scaramouche posted:Seth Rogan so welp Didn't Preacher end up okay?
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Jan 24, 2019 20:56
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The Boys is alternately really smart and good, and absolutely awful and terrible and beyond contempt as a comic. It flails between both states wildly. For once, I imagine the TV adaptation might be toning down the grittiness of the comic book source material just in order to make it slightly more sane, let alone more palatable.
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Jan 24, 2019 20:57
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Nodosaur posted:and? what should the alternative be? not using him at all? The alternative should be trying to push more than one poc at a time dude
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Jan 24, 2019 20:57
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Svensken posted:The alternative should be trying to push more than one poc at a time dude yeah, but that's not really a problem with Young Justice. The show is very diverse.
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Jan 24, 2019 20:59
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Yeah if they can manage to take the general idea of the boys and leave out all the ennis i would watch that
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Jan 24, 2019 21:01
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I was enthralled with The Boys but it did poo poo the bed long before it ended and some of that poo poo got in my mouth and on the wall and i can still smell it.
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Jan 24, 2019 21:16
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https://twitter.com/umbrellaacad/status/1088474030489985029?s=21
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Jan 24, 2019 21:22
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Teenage Fansub posted:Didn't Preacher end up okay? No
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Jan 24, 2019 21:27
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I haven't been keeping up much with YJ but it seems to me that it's a pretty natural place for Cyborg to pop up? He's a second-gen hero along with Dick and Wally. The only thing that would feel out of place if is they were like "And here is our AWESOME SAVIOR CYBORG, the bestest guy ever, thank goodness we finally have a real hero here now to show us how it's all done~" or whatever.
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Jan 24, 2019 21:53
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Even if Young Justice is an appropriate place for Cyborg to show up, it's just further indicative of DC's continued approach to that character, which is "shove him into everything." YJ might be diverse enough that he won't be their blatant token minority, but that doesn't excuse the many, many other recent times where he did show up just to be exactly that. He's in the Teen Titans. He's in the Doom Patrol. He's now randomly a founding member of the Justice League. That it makes sense for him to be in this show doesn't really matter when the issue is that he's in too many shows, and they should really use some other characters. It's a problem made worse by the fact that I can't tell you poo poo about Cyborg. I watched a lot of that cartoon from over a decade ago, which may explain why there's a resurgence of "interest" in the character, but as far as I can tell this Cyborg isn't actually anything at all like that Cyborg. And by that logic, we should really be seeing way more of John Stewart as Green Lantern. We are not (to the extent that my personal dumb conspiracy theory is that Geoff Johns is using Cyborg as The Black Member Of The Justice League to avoid having anyone but Hal loving Jordan be Green Lantern). It'd be like if Marvel was randomly putting like, Ant-Man in adaptations of the Guardians of the Galaxy and Alpha Flight and the Defenders constantly, and then they do an Avengers series with him as a founding member, and while it makes sense for him to show up there you're so goddamn sick of Ant-Man that it just reinforces how hard this character is getting pushed. That's obviously a ridiculous example (because who could ever tire of Ant-Man?) but whatever. Arist fucked around with this message at 22:21 on Jan 24, 2019 |
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Jan 24, 2019 22:18
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It sucks that Seth Rogan is such a huge Garth Ennis fan. Oh well.
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Jan 24, 2019 22:30
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Still wondering if there will ever be a moment where Number 1 takes off the trenchcoat. They got one good looking monkey in, they can probably do him for a couple of scenes. edit: For referece: 
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Jan 24, 2019 22:40
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Preacher is great because the first thing they did was dump everything from the comic.
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Jan 24, 2019 23:05
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twistedmentat posted:Is the Doom Patrol series a spin off so to speak from Titans? Like same cast (outside of Dalton as Chief) and location? I really liked what we saw in the show. That Robotman, like real pathos there. I think it's a spin off but they've done some recasting.
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Jan 24, 2019 23:52
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Endless Mike posted:Preacher is great because the first thing they did was dump everything from the comic.
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Jan 25, 2019 01:47
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Codependent Poster posted:Yeah, he didn't need to be totally scarred up since it's more about him being hosed in the head. I don't even get this line of thought. Okay, sure, it's about his mental issues, but dude had the side of his face scraped off. At the climax of last season's finale. He shoulda looked at least a little gruesome.
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Jan 25, 2019 02:50
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It's impressive what skin grafts can do nowadays.
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Jan 25, 2019 02:56
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Endless Mike posted:Preacher is great because the first thing they did was dump everything from the comic. Also Dominic, Ruth and Joe are all amazing together.
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Jan 25, 2019 03:07
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What I'm given to understand was the "comedic highlight" of the Seth Rogen Hulu original 'Future Man' was the lead character jackin' it when the two people from the future show up in his room, and he then blows a load onto the guy from the future. COMEDY~! I expect The Boys is going to be like that, but with superheroes and more so. The further we get from Hitman, the less I like Ennis. Dawgstar fucked around with this message at 03:44 on Jan 25, 2019 |
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Jan 25, 2019 03:32
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Future Man is surprisingly clever, though, yes, it is very puerile.
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Jan 25, 2019 03:51
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It's a bit of a bummer about how face but they got the most important piece of Jigsaw right which is that he's a huge incompetent loser who thinks he's way cooler and more bad rear end than he actually is.
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Jan 25, 2019 04:02
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Arist posted:Even if Young Justice is an appropriate place for Cyborg to show up, it's just further indicative of DC's continued approach to that character, which is "shove him into everything." YJ might be diverse enough that he won't be their blatant token minority, but that doesn't excuse the many, many other recent times where he did show up just to be exactly that. He's in the Teen Titans. He's in the Doom Patrol. He's now randomly a founding member of the Justice League. That it makes sense for him to be in this show doesn't really matter when the issue is that he's in too many shows, and they should really use some other characters. Any screen time that is used on Cyborg and not Static is a small travesty. That's a minority character who is amazing and needs maximum exposure since they're allowing him in the show.
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Jan 25, 2019 04:27
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Arist posted:It'd be like if Marvel was randomly putting like, Ant-Man in adaptations of the Guardians of the Galaxy and Alpha Flight and the Defenders constantly, and then they do an Avengers series with him as a founding member, and while it makes sense for him to show up there you're so goddamn sick of Ant-Man that it just reinforces how hard this character is getting pushed. That's obviously a ridiculous example (because who could ever tire of Ant-Man?) but whatever. Humorously, Ant-Man actually was on the GOTG in comics several months ago.
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Jan 25, 2019 05:53
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I still cannot for the life of me understand how DC has failed to make Static into a big deal. Maybe the cartoon wasn't super popular like ratings wise? Cause any time the people around me hear of a DC property, they will ask me where Static Shock is. I understand that they can't push him and Black Lightning at the same time, but drat it, pick Virgil.
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Jan 25, 2019 09:09
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DC doesn't own Static though.
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Jan 25, 2019 09:30
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Who the hell is Static? And I am a solid medium as far as comics nerds go.
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Jan 25, 2019 14:40
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Static and the Milestone heroes have been handed off to Reginald Hudlin's Milestone Universe initiative, which is in development hell. So, no, Cyborg's screentime isn't screentime they can just give to Static.
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Jan 25, 2019 15:16
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I dunno if DC owns Static, but they put him in Young Justice Season 2. They've put him in video games. They could use him. They've chosen not to. I'm sure their reason if asked would be better than "We permanently lost the ability to use him after something we tried to get off the ground in 2015 never did."
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Jan 25, 2019 16:52
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SonicRulez posted:I dunno if DC owns Static, but they put him in Young Justice Season 2. They've put him in video games. They could use him. They've chosen not to. Icon was also in YJ wasn't he? But something could have changed since then that made them unable to use the characters. It has been a few years. Wasn't their creator still alive when YJ started?
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Jan 25, 2019 17:49
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Didn't McDuffie's estate sue the Milestone thing? That could certainly throw a monkeywrench in things.
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Jan 25, 2019 17:51
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Dawgstar posted:Didn't McDuffie's estate sue the Milestone thing? That could certainly throw a monkeywrench in things. Yes, the tried to basically edge out his widow on his share of the properties.
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Jan 25, 2019 17:53
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SonicRulez posted:I dunno if DC owns Static, but they put him in Young Justice Season 2. They've put him in video games. They could use him. They've chosen not to. This deal with Hudlin happened after the first two seasons of YJ had come and gone. Circumstances have changed since YJ was written. Also McDuffie's widow is suing them over it as of 2017.
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Jan 25, 2019 18:13
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Dawgstar posted:What I'm given to understand was the "comedic highlight" of the Seth Rogen Hulu original 'Future Man' was the lead character jackin' it when the two people from the future show up in his room, and he then blows a load onto the guy from the future. COMEDY~! That's in episode one which everyone agrees is the low point of the first season so I don't know who told you that.
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https://twitter.com/Sethrogen/status/1088486462050291712 I've never read The Boys, how Ennisy is it?
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