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Cipher Pol 9 posted:Wait, base breaker? Is that Drive or Tridoron? I thought both were great. :O I've definitely seen some negativity for Drive in this thread. It doesn't seem to have the same love sister series W has. In my eyes it was pretty good though.
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Waffleman_ posted:Also just generally watch Fukuda's dramas. Just gonna quote this right here.
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Blaze Dragon posted:I've definitely seen some negativity for Drive in this thread. It doesn't seem to have the same love sister series W has. In my eyes it was pretty good though. It meandered a bit but ended really really strong.
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Blaze Dragon posted:I've definitely seen some negativity for Drive in this thread. It doesn't seem to have the same love sister series W has. In my eyes it was pretty good though. I love Drive but in one of the discord servers I'm in there's a lot of negativity around it. It seems to mostly be because they feel Gou is a terrible character due to being a huge racist.
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Gou's a poo poo, its treatment of its female cast could have been a lot better, and it does kinda meander in the middle a bit, but it's still a great series overall.
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Gou is a bad character in a good series, Kiriko is a good character in a bad series, and Heart is the best villain in Kamen Rider. It's hard to nail a single statement of quality, good or bad, onto Drive.
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Waffleman_ posted:At first, I was confused because "Wait, he's not counted as a Rider" and then I realized it was MAD Rogue and not NIGHT Rogue and I remembered that Mad Rogue existed. Mad Rogue has one redeeming feature: 
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Twelve by Pies posted:I love Drive but in one of the discord servers I'm in there's a lot of negativity around it. It seems to mostly be because they feel Gou is a terrible character due to being a huge racist. Does that server have positive sentiment towards Ghost. There's like a small crowd that really, really hates Drive and loves Ghost and you might just be encountering that crowd. Try mentioning something you didn't like about Ghost.
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Waffleman_ posted:At first, I was confused because "Wait, he's not counted as a Rider" and then I realized it was MAD Rogue and not NIGHT Rogue and I remembered that Mad Rogue existed. why would ether not be counted as a rider?
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Ignis posted:You'll want the japanese subs for the Wizard show too, cuz it's a Fukuda show
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https://twitter.com/tokugifs/status/1088664761774923776?s=19 https://twitter.com/PSO2_neondam/status/1085174654954700800?s=19
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Cipher Pol 9 posted:What are you referring to with "cuz it's a Fukuda show?" I'm super out of touch with Japanese drama haha. The immediately echoed praise for his work (and a quick skim of his impressive filmography) has me interested though. I have... particular feelings of distaste towards that certain fansubbing scene that would deffo get me probated for  so to keep it short, Fukuda Yuichi shows tend to have a lot of comedy and wordplay that might be a tad hard to follow for a first-time watcher without subtitles of any kind. His shows are generally a riot though, I'd recommend The Hero Yoshihiko or Aoi Honoo as starters.e: if you register on d-addicts they have a members-only section with japanese subs; I'd wholly recommend using them if fansubs are the only thing available e2: also whatever you do don't watch the subs for Aoi Honoo on viki, those are godawful Ignis fucked around with this message at 06:35 on Jan 25, 2019 |
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Hemingway To Go! posted:Does that server have positive sentiment towards Ghost. loving how? ghost is a trashfire
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Ignis posted:I have... particular feelings of distaste towards that certain fansubbing scene that would deffo get me probated for I've always been curious about those shows actually.
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The Hero Yoshihiko is good. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQTn1QxCZ2s
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Ignis posted:I have... particular feelings of distaste towards that certain fansubbing scene that would deffo get me probated for
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With the marked exception of the crowsourced "official" translation for Aoi Honoo, all of the Fukuda Yuichi shows and movies that have been officially licensed have good translations, so there's that. Nietszche in the Convenience Store (formerly on Crunchyroll), Tokyo Dogs (starring Tendou from Kabuto, on viu.com), Chasing My Girl, Businessmen VS Alien (Prime Original), Jossy's (not actually licensed but it did have official subtitles for a festival), Hentai Kamen (China/UK release)... hell even Gintama (Amazon and iTunes)'s milquetoast translation is better than whatever the gently caress that Aoi Honoo tl is anyways I'll see myself out before I go full Burkion on this thread about all this Ignis fucked around with this message at 07:16 on Jan 25, 2019 |
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It's a rewarding feeling, being used as a verb
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^^^ and well deserved https://twitter.com/Patrick_Macias/status/1088632558529564672
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Go ahead and go full Burkion. It's cool to be enthused about the stuff you like!
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Potsticker posted:Go ahead and go full Burkion. It's cool to be enthused about the stuff you like!  PMush Perfect posted:SA Poster Burkion has put together a big-rear end post giving you a quick summary of just about every loving thing you could ever want to watch. We love and are slightly terrified of him.
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Ignis posted:^^^ and well deserved Something about this image gives me the vibes of it being one of those creepypasta images
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mateo360 posted:why would ether not be counted as a rider? Night Rogue and Blood Stalk aren't technically counted as Kamen Riders since they use a different form of transformation than the Rider System. Same for the Remocon, Engine, and Hell's Bros. Mad Rogue is a Rider though. Also Decade is 10 years today https://twitter.com/tokugifs/status/1088695715902246912
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Waffleman_ posted:Night Rogue and Blood Stalk aren't technically counted as Kamen Riders since they use a different form of transformation than the Rider System. Same for the Remocon, Engine, and Hell's Bros. That's... really dumb. If you want to go that route then you would have to disqualify a several of the secondary riders because they used different systems of transformation. Poppy, Zombie and Cronus all used Buggle drivers which wasn't the rider system of ex-aid and were a weapon first like the guns Rouge and Stalk used. (ride players and Nico I'm on the fence about) Necrom because he had the Mega Ulorder rather then a Ghost driver like Ghost and Specter Woz because He isn't using a Ziku Driver
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mateo360 posted:That's... really dumb. If you want to go that route then you would have to disqualify a several of the secondary riders because they used different systems of transformation. None of those examples work because you're applying one shows naming convention to another one where it doesn't exist. In Build specifically you're a rider if they show calls you a rider and the show only calls the people using the Build/Evol/SQUASH drivers riders The rest are just metal heroes.
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:None of those examples work because you're applying one shows naming convention to another one where it doesn't exist. In Build specifically you're a rider if they show calls you a rider and the show only calls the people using the Build/Evol/SQUASH drivers riders when did Build specifically state that?
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Mostly the fact that they're not called Kamen Rider Night Rogue et al and just Night Rogue.
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mateo360 posted:when did Build specifically state that? Probably the moment Katsuragi said that Night Rogue and Blood Stalk existed to train users of the Rider System, because the latter can evolve unlike the former. Or the time Gentoku asked to be made a Kamen Rider despite already being Night Rogue. Or maybe a few other times where it was extremely specific on what is and isn't a Rider for it.
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mateo360 posted:when did Build specifically state that? When they explicitly call some of the Kamen Riders and some of them not.
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I feel that just cause they don't call them riders doesn't make them such. Up till Build the only ones with questionable rider status would be the mass produced/mooks like the Ride players or the Kurokage Troops (unless I'm forgetting some one-off or something else) There is more of an argument to be made of who is counted as Ranger/Sentai like Magna Defender or Wolf Warrior. Mostly by their suits being armor and not spandex. All the suits in any given Rider series tend to be of the same material so to speak and the only argument I am hearing is that "Kamen Rider" is not part of their name.
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mateo360 posted:I feel that just cause they don't call them riders doesn't make them such. Up till Build the only ones with questionable rider status would be the mass produced/mooks like the Ride players or the Kurokage Troops (unless I'm forgetting some one-off or something else) There's similar arguments in the Gundam fandom about whether certain suits are Gundams or not
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mateo360 posted:I feel that just cause they don't call them riders doesn't make them such. Up till Build the only ones with questionable rider status would be the mass produced/mooks like the Ride players or the Kurokage Troops (unless I'm forgetting some one-off or something else) You're forgetting the Alternatives from Ryuki who are basically Riders in every way except they aren't Riders. Beyond that, yeah, it's mostly the mass-produced stuff that gets in the "is it or isn't it" question (for that matter, the Riotroopers are Riders, the Ride-Players are not, and the Kurokage Troopers should be but I'm not entirely sure) There's no argument in Sentai. Everyone that's Ranger-like is a Ranger. The only argument is whether they count as sixth, extra or whatever, and that's barely important. Kamen Rider...can be a bit arbitrary about it, but usually there's a line when there's something that almost is a Rider but isn't. And if you want that line as clear as possible in Build: if they say HENSHIN, they're Riders. If they don't, they aren't.
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being called a Rider has some actual weight to it though. It would take me forever to get into it but the fact that someone is called a Rider vs Not is actually a big deal, sometimes this is extremely arbitrary and for reasons that are very bad and dumb (see: the Tackle issue), but there's a certain specific sort of statement being a Rider makes about you, even in Heisei. Night Rogue and Blood Stalk aren't riders for a multitude of reasons but Build is extremely Showa throwback in how hard it plays to the hilt on a lot of classic Rider themes so it's super specific about what is and is not a Kamen Rider. Also the transformation gimmicks differ as other people pointed out.
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Hemingway To Go! posted:Does that server have positive sentiment towards Ghost. E: I can already sense you or someone else trying to defend him with 'but he gets over it!', which might be true except for it not happening until after Best Boy Chase has to die for his stupid rear end, so it's too fuckin' little too fuckin' late. 
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mateo360 posted:I feel that just cause they don't call them riders doesn't make them such. Up till Build the only ones with questionable rider status would be the mass produced/mooks like the Ride players or the Kurokage Troops (unless I'm forgetting some one-off or something else) Yeah the fact that officially they're not named kamen rider means they are not kamen riders? Like the argument that they are has even less evidence and ultimately it's a distinction that only bares meaning in specific shows (See Build saying the Steam Gun forms have static hazard levels and cannot grow while the rider system explicitly can.) The only argument that they are is "Well if you ignore the shows descriptions they're kind of the same thing and It soothes my brain demons to have them order such."
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