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Volkerball posted:Because it's loving stupid. The Saudi's have been getting their asses kicked in the US political sphere for the last several years, and their relationship is only getting worse. Even the most establishment Republicans like Rubio are openly calling them out on the Senate floor. It's cool that we're "calling them out" while continuing to conclude multi billion dollars arms deals with them. That's still one tiny thing in a massive laundry list of atrocities the US has done and does do. You wanna talk about fraudulent elections? The US' elections are gerrymandered disenfranchising poo poo shows, of which two of the last five presidential elections have been stolen as gently caress. Maybe the UN should invade the USA. Volkerball posted:Gas lines and massive national emergencies related to oil shortages are a thing of the past. The US exports more oil than it imports. It's not the 80's anymore. Yeah I guess that means we have 0 interest in controlling the supply and price of oil on the world market then.  There's no US economic hegemony anywhere! Moridin920 fucked around with this message at 22:48 on Jan 25, 2019 |
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https://twitter.com/Phil_Mattingly/status/1088910884502671360 lol... the Iran-Contra guy. Everything the US touches turns to a flaming pile of trash. We live in the stupidest of all possible universes.
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god drat how is every single post moridin makes somehow worse than his previous ones You are like a dumber, communist fishmech
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AGGGGH BEES posted:god drat how is every single post moridin makes somehow worse than his previous ones it's not my fault you can't see the obvious truth which is: Chuck Boone posted:Everything the US touches turns to a flaming pile of trash. and that it makes you angry. Because yeah it'd be great if the USA's "kickass" army it spends all its money on such that no one can see a doctor or afford to live without worry could actually help anyone except the corporate greedlords that run everything. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Volkerball posted:Because it's loving stupid. The Saudi's have been getting their asses kicked in the US political sphere for the last several years, and their relationship is only getting worse. Even the most establishment Republicans like Rubio are openly calling them out on the Senate floor. Gas lines and massive national emergencies related to oil shortages are a thing of the past. The US exports more oil than it imports. It's not the 80's anymore. In 20 years, if not 10, KSA will be a pariah state, and lefties will have to adapt to hyping up the kingdoms anti-imperialist cred and theorizing about regime change attempts against it. I'm not here to street preach, I'm not an expert on this subject. But it doesn't help that everyone who follows Venezuela seriously on a daily basis, to include our resident Venezuelans, get run off by a bunch of idiots who's perspectives are entirely written by how they feel, not by what they've researched, since said idiots seem to think that the borders of the entire forum for shitposting are too restrictive. I mean, yea, any kind of consistent anti-imperialism would lead one to oppose a US coup in Saudi Arabia, or any meddling in their internal politics, if something that insane ever happened. I don’t think any decent leftists should advocate for woke interventions against every lovely dictator on the planet. How is that your example of something beyond the pale?
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Volkerball posted:Because it's loving stupid. The Saudi's have been getting their asses kicked in the US political sphere for the last several years, and their relationship is only getting worse. Ahahahahaha
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did the cne ever allow the representatives elected by the indigenous people to sit or are they still not allowed to sit and indigenous people are being denied representation because they voted for the MUD?
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Moridin920 posted:
This is the thread about Venezuela. Can you cunts stop making everything about yourself? I swear American leftists are somehow even worse on this than their conservatives.
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AlexanderCA posted:I swear American leftists are somehow even worse on this than their conservatives. Horseshoe theory, in MY D&D??
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AlexanderCA posted:This is the thread about Venezuela. Can you cunts stop making everything about yourself? I swear American leftists are somehow even worse on this than their conservatives. The USA is literally asking the UN for an emergency security council meeting and ramping up rhetoric that leads to invasion but yeah it has nothing at all to do with the USA whatsoever. Chill the out just bc I took a pot shot at the USA's military doesn't mean suddenly it's all about the USA and it would have passed by without comment until you focused on it. Moridin920 fucked around with this message at 23:06 on Jan 25, 2019 |
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Zikan posted:did the cne ever allow the representatives elected by the indigenous people to sit or are they still not allowed to sit and indigenous people are being denied representation because they voted for the MUD? Nope.
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Chuck Boone posted:https://twitter.com/Phil_Mattingly/status/1088910884502671360  Stay safe, venegoons, and good luck. I'll throw some more cash to a charity next month, but at this point it's probably best to run.
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This isn't like 2014 or 2017. I really think that the situation is unraveling pretty quick. It may be that I need to step away from all this for a bit but... yeah, it feels really different this time.
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Chuck Boone posted:This isn't like 2014 or 2017. I really think that the situation is unraveling pretty quick. It may be that I need to step away from all this for a bit but... yeah, it feels really different this time. Same here. If Maduro is cut off financially, as it seems will happen, I think the situation will unravel rather fast.
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Moridin920 posted:
I think that whoever comes next will at least attempt to look like he's working for the country's benefit. I don't see how the terrible situation in your country applies. Should we deny international help in such a desperate position? I get it that to *you* it's more important to keep the narrative of USA being evil than to actually try and make Venezuelan's life better, but forgive the rest of us that are actually human and those affected for thinking diffently. It's amazing how you keep making the lives of millions just fodder for your own vendettas. E- agreeing to the sentiment that this time things seem to be unraveling fast. Here's hoping that this loving nightmare 20 years in the make finds a reasonably peaceful way out. Hugoon Chavez fucked around with this message at 23:13 on Jan 25, 2019 |
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Moridin920 posted:The USA is literally asking the UN for an emergency security council meeting and ramping up rhetoric that leads to invasion but yeah it has nothing at all to do with the USA whatsoever. Youre whining about you're lovely excuse for a healthcare system and outsized defense budget. That's all you really do, whine whine whine.
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Hugoon Chavez posted:I think that whoever comes next will at least attempt to look like he's working for the country's benefit. Yeah you realize we're putting the dude that already did war crimes in South America in charge right? Hugoon Chavez posted:I don't see how the terrible situation in your country applies. You don't see that if we don't even give a poo poo about our own we're not going to do all that much for Venezuelans? Hugoon Chavez posted:I get it that to *you* it's more important to keep the narrative of USA being evil than to actually try and make Venezuelan's life better, but forgive the rest of us that are actually human and those affected for thinking diffently. Why don't you cut it out with the inflammatory insults because they don't really lend you any credibility. While you're at it point to one situation ever post WW2 in which US intervention ended up with a better result for the people who were subject to it. Or ever in South America period. AlexanderCA posted:Youre whining about you're lovely excuse for a healthcare system and outsized defense budget. That's all you really do, whine whine whine. You're whining right now. Moridin920 fucked around with this message at 23:17 on Jan 25, 2019 |
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AlexanderCA posted:This is the thread about Venezuela. Can you cunts stop making everything about yourself? I swear American leftists are somehow even worse on this than their conservatives. Nah. Just look up videos of Sovereign Citizens.
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Squalid posted:Nope. that’s pretty hosed up on the psuv’s part
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Has the Constitutional Assembly drafted any constitution yet?
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While I am sure it is very important to settle once and for all if America is bad has there been any updates on the US embassy situation? Unless my timeline is off the "deadline" for them to get out of the country should be coming up right around tomorrow's UN Security Council meeting on Venezuela (a pretty tidy overlap tbh) Also has Guaido been heard from at all publicly since like, Wednesday?
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P-Mack posted:Has the Constitutional Assembly drafted any constitution yet? I mean when would they find the time, they have a busy schedule of acting as a parallel legislature.
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P-Mack posted:Has the Constitutional Assembly drafted any constitution yet? I don't think they're even pretending they're working on it anymore. Last time I heard someone mention a timeframe, they just said the Constitutional Assembly would probably take a few years to get its work done. In the meantime they keep plenty busy rubberstamping everything Maduro wants.
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Berke Negri posted:Also has Guaido been heard from at all publicly since like, Wednesday? He gave a speech today from the streets of Caracas
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Berke Negri posted:Also has Guaido been heard from at all publicly since like, Wednesday? About that, earlier today he made a livestream with his Statements.
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Chuck Boone posted:https://twitter.com/Phil_Mattingly/status/1088910884502671360 Yeah. That's bad.
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The regime just held a press conference a little while ago where they showed "evidence" that Guaido met in secret with the PSUV on January 22. This is an old PSUV trick, and is used to sow discontent inside the opposition. Anyway, here's the evidence. Minister of Communication Jorge Rodriguez said that the guy in the hoodie is Guaido: https://twitter.com/NTN24ve/status/1088912853892059136 As you can imagine, not a lot of people are buying it. #GuaidoChallenge is now trending on Twitter, and it's people sharing images of other Guaido sightings. Examples: https://twitter.com/rvaldesdaussa/status/1088930400880283648 https://twitter.com/jaimegudinor/status/1088930245212884992 This user jokingly suggests that the "man" in the video is actually vice president Delcy Rodriguez: https://twitter.com/Nebrisima/status/1088930236572618752 Vincent Van Goatse posted:Yeah. That's bad.
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Yeah I'm gonna go with that being bad solely from this horrible piece of poo poo having anything to do with a response to a latin country.
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Chuck Boone posted:It's like they're trying on purpose to gently caress this up as much as possible. yeah that's pretty much this admin in a nutshell
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Chuck Boone posted:https://twitter.com/Phil_Mattingly/status/1088910884502671360 If only they put someone competent at turning unfriendly nations into fast growing, slave market startups, like samantha power, john kerry, or hillary clinton.
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CAPS LOCK BROKEN posted:If only they put someone competent at turning unfriendly nations into fast growing, slave market startups, like samantha power, john kerry, or hillary clinton. This isn’t about the US, why are you talking about US intervention, just because they dug up the evil death squad ghouls from the Reagan era?
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Chuck Boone posted:It's like they're trying on purpose to gently caress this up as much as possible. Yep. Welcome to Donald Trump's America, enjoy your stay.
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We, Latin Americans, just can never have nice things, can we?
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https://twitter.com/IlhanMN/status/1088829238164246528 https://twitter.com/IlhanMN/status/1088829933508534273 owns
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Hey, just a thought, what if the US intervention in Venezuela was less like Iraq and more like the Marshall Plan? Like, political pressure until Maduro fucks straight off, and then massive unconditional foreign aid until it resembles a functioning society again?
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It's fun to envision stuff like that but with Trump at the wheel any actual efforts will end up poorly thought through and likely end up with things worse.
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