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https://twitter.com/NFL/status/1088618889217363968?s=19 So what would it take to make Thielen a Seahawk? Asking for a friend.
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Benny the Snake posted:https://twitter.com/NFL/status/1088618889217363968?s=19 I’m sure the guy is dying to come play in the offense that threw the fewest passes of any team this year.
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Jan 26, 2019 00:48
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MakaVillian posted:The true GOAT your GOAT sells scammy supplement water to gullible idiots, mine gets the world high 
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Jan 26, 2019 01:08
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YOLOsubmarine posted:I’m sure the guy is dying to come play in the offense that threw the fewest passes of any team this year. And that'd be any different from taking passes from Cousins how...?
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Jan 26, 2019 04:55
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Wilson is one of the best passers in the league but listen up guy, if you want so succeed in the modern nfl you have to establish the run.
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Jan 26, 2019 06:49
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Benny the Snake posted:And that'd be any different from taking passes from Cousins how...? Theilen has 113 receptions on the year for 1373 yards. Tyler Lockett was Seattle’s top receiver this year with 57 receptions for 965 yards. Cousins had as many completions as Wilson had attempts, and a better completion percentage. I’m gonna guess that the dude who makes his living catching passes wants to play for a team that throws them.
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Jan 26, 2019 07:29
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Adam Thielen runs a great 7 yard curl on 3rd and 11
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Jan 26, 2019 07:36
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YOLOsubmarine posted:Theilen has 113 receptions on the year for 1373 yards. Tyler Lockett was Seattle’s top receiver this year with 57 receptions for 965 yards. Cousins had as many completions as Wilson had attempts, and a better completion percentage. I was making a joke how Cousins is a bad QB, dude. I'm fully aware that we'd need to remove Schotty in order to let Russ be Russ.
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Jan 26, 2019 08:43
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Benny the Snake posted:I was making a joke how Cousins is a bad QB, dude. I'm fully aware that we'd need to remove Schotty in order to let Russ be Russ. Cousins wasn’t a bad QB though? FO has him ranked 13th in passing DYAR, just two places behind Wilson at 11th, despite having a worse line and being asked to pass 50% more.
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Jan 26, 2019 16:59
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YOLOsubmarine posted:Cousins wasn’t a bad QB though? FO has him ranked 13th in passing DYAR, just two places behind Wilson at 11th, despite having a worse line and being asked to pass 50% more. He's also bad against teams over .500
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Jan 26, 2019 18:10
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Benny the Snake posted:He's also bad against teams over .500 You know DYAR takes opponent strength into account right? And that “record against .500” teams is an insanely stupid metric to judge a single player by? Cousins played much better defenses on average, with a worse offensive line and a bottom 3 run game.
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Jan 26, 2019 18:35
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Cousins is also throwing to much better wrs and plays on a team where the forward pass is more than a trick play
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Jan 26, 2019 18:53
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Metapod posted:Cousins is also throwing to much better wrs and plays on a team where the forward pass is more than a trick play I’m not sure I agree that his receivers are much better, but I’m also not sure what your point is. Cousins was fine this year. Not great, but he definitely wasn’t bad.
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Jan 26, 2019 19:00
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Thielen and Diggs is a top 5 wr corps lol My point is cousins sucks while Wilson is excellent
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Jan 26, 2019 19:24
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Metapod posted:Thielen and Diggs is a top 5 wr corps lol Nah, Mariota sucks, Cousins is alright. Not as good as Wilson, but he’s fine. Certainly not bad enough that Theilen would want to jump ship to Seattle so he can run block a bunch more.
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Jan 26, 2019 19:27
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Lol attacking something I love because you said a bunch of retarded things
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Jan 26, 2019 19:30
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Metapod posted:Lol attacking something I love because you said a bunch of retarded things You seem confused about how to determine if QBs are good or bad, so I figured I’d help with examples.
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Jan 26, 2019 19:35
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this qb who plays considerably worse and always loses when faced with a good team Yeah this guy is alright
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Jan 26, 2019 19:43
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Metapod posted:this qb who plays considerably worse and always loses when faced with a good team What was Wilson’s record against teams above .500 this year?
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Jan 26, 2019 19:45
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Idk but I do know Wilson plays at an elite level almost every game for years against any team and cousins tops out at alright when playing bad teams For shits and giggles I looked up their stats Wilson threw 427 passes cousins completed 425 passes Wilson threw more touchdowns lmao
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Jan 26, 2019 19:57
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Russell Wilson is good Kirk Cousins is just okay to bad So is Marcus Mariota. That should settle that.
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Jan 26, 2019 20:25
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Metapod posted:Idk but I do know Wilson plays at an elite level almost every game for years against any team and cousins tops out at alright when playing bad teams Wilson is very good but his team still went 2-5 vs teams above .500 vs Cousins 1-6 mark. Takes more than a good QB to win games against good teams. And often good teams have good defenses, against which QBs do worse. Cousins didn’t have a single game all season as bad as Wilson’s was against Minnesota, but Seattle still comfortably won.
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Jan 26, 2019 20:28
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YOLOsubmarine posted:And often good teams have good defenses, against which QBs do worse. .... 
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Jan 26, 2019 20:35
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Grittybeard posted:.... Sorry for triggering you.
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Jan 26, 2019 20:36
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If you think dinking and dunking to 300 yards then scoring a td or 2 in garbage time isnt horrible then I don't know what to say. Every time he faced a good defense they knew he couldn't beat him and let him do his thing knowing he wouldn't score because he sucks
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Jan 26, 2019 20:54
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This sounds like we're talking about Mariota still
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Jan 26, 2019 21:02
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Spoeank posted:Russell Wilson is good 
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Jan 26, 2019 21:05
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Spoeank posted:Russell Wilson is good It really does, it's kind of astounding how easily you boiled it down.
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Jan 26, 2019 22:00
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Spoeank posted:Russell Wilson is good Hmmmmmm....this is for Cousins  Checks out.
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Jan 26, 2019 22:13
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Spoeank posted:Russell Wilson is good On that note, Go R- Go-R Go-R Go Rams. God that was more difficult that I thought. Just deny Brady his sixth ring so I can go back to hating your team like usual. If Brady wins, though, I don't wanna hear "passing it on the one yard line" jokes every again.
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Jan 26, 2019 22:33
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Russell Wilson is more than good. He’s top 3.
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Jan 27, 2019 00:00
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JIZZ DENOUEMENT posted:Russell Wilson is more than good. He’s top 3. He’s top five going forward, but he was definitely not in the top 3 this year and various rankings put him outside the top 10.
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Jan 27, 2019 00:31
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King Hong Kong posted:He’s top five going forward, but he was definitely not in the top 3 this year and various rankings put him outside the top 10. I mean in the nebulous vacuum of just how quality we think they are. Like Russell has Schotty and Rodgers has McCarthy, so what they actually produce on the field varies but they are incredible.
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Jan 27, 2019 00:47
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JIZZ DENOUEMENT posted:I mean in the nebulous vacuum of just how quality we think they are. A top 3 QB should be able to transcend their circumstances in the style of Manning or Rodgers. Wilson has yet to do this.
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Jan 27, 2019 01:21
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King Hong Kong posted:A top 3 QB should be able to transcend their circumstances in the style of Manning or Rodgers. Wilson has yet to do this. Rogers has yet to win a second SB and it took Peyton ten years to win his second SB while his brother won two in five years. Football is a team sport and sometimes all the talent in the world can't make up for things like bad coaching or lack of weapons.
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Jan 27, 2019 03:08
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The tendency of some Seahawks fans to ignore Doug Baldwin in order to puff up Russell Wilson is always a bit surprising.
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Jan 27, 2019 03:11
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Doug Baldwin is also very good. Russell Wilson is probably top 5, maybe top 3 could possibly be argued. But other than those 2 and Lockett, the offense was pretty meh this year and Schotty is garbage partly disguised by Wilson having a magical ability to get out of 3rd and long situations.
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Jan 27, 2019 03:16
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King Hong Kong posted:A top 3 QB should be able to transcend their circumstances in the style of Manning or Rodgers. Wilson has yet to do this. I guess Drew Brees, Tony Romo, and Philip Rivers were never top 3 then.
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Jan 27, 2019 03:18
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Peachfart posted:Doug Baldwin is also very good. Russell Wilson is probably top 5, maybe top 3 could possibly be argued. hey come on now, the seahawks established the run
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I didn’t mean win a Super Bowl when I said “transcend their circumstances,” I meant not be outside the top 10 in various metrics like Wilson’s 2018 season. Hence my very particular use of Manning and Rodgers as examples of this.
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