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| Joe "the liberal who fights busing" Biden |
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27 | 1.40% |
| Bernie "please don't die" Sanders |
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1017 | 52.69% |
| Cory "charter schools" Booker |
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12 | 0.62% |
| Kirsten "wall street" Gillibrand |
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24 | 1.24% |
| Kamala "truancy queen" Harris |
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59 | 3.06% |
| Julian "who?" Castro |
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7 | 0.36% |
| Tulsi "gay panic" Gabbard |
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25 | 1.30% |
| Michael "crimes crimes crimes" Avenatti |
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| Sherrod "discount bernie" Brown |
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21 | 1.09% |
| Amy "horrible boss" Klobuchar |
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12 | 0.62% |
| Tammy "stands for america" Duckworth |
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48 | 2.49% |
| Beto "whataburger" O'Rourke |
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32 | 1.66% |
| Elizabeth "instagram beer" Warren |
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284 | 14.72% |
| Tom "impeach please" Steyer |
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4 | 0.21% |
| Michael "soda is the devil" Bloomberg |
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| Joseph Stalin |
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287 | 14.87% |
| Howard "coffee republican" Schultz |
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10 | 0.52% |
Jay "nobody cares about climate change  " Inslee |
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13 | 0.67% |
| Pete "gently caress the homeless" Butt Man |
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SeANMcBAY posted:Same. I expect a pretty strong race between him and Harris. I really think it’ll come down to one of the two. There's a viral twitter takedown thread on Harris making the rounds on progressive and black twitter and facebook. Like my local (about 60% black) Georgia progressive group went from substantially pro Harris to majority against Harris just over the course of today, and no actual candidate has actually attacked her yet.
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AOC should stay in the house and help build the progressive caucus to get more Omar's and Tlaib's in there. Then we can abolish the lovely garbage rear end senate. Also she's my rep and you can't have her.
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Jan 27, 2019 06:27
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Democrats will one day run on abolishing the electoral college, or the senate, but not both!
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Jan 27, 2019 06:45
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Jan 27, 2019 07:33
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LionArcher posted:Trying to gaslight me, a white dude is going to work really well. Instead of responding to anything I addressed, you insult me instead of the fact he’s got a sexism issue. You’re response to attack me with a common tactic used by men who are sexist (usually used against women), isn’t really strengthening your argument, if you have one,
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Jan 27, 2019 08:27
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Eiba posted:I don't know what Sanders has said that's as concrete and structurally important as that. Medicare for All is a great way to present a new healthcare system, but it's Democratic dogma now. That's great, but Warren seems like she's actually pushing for new ideas. The biggest concerning things I've seen are that Warren has already made some statements sort of hedging on the issue of Medicare for All, in addition to not mentioning it much in her own campaigning. This makes me highly concerned that she would not fight very hard for it if elected, which is a big deal seeing as MfA is one of the more important issues this election. She has also been pretty weak in terms of what she's said/advocated for regarding climate change, with (IIRC) just one sort of vague mention of supporting "the idea of a" Green New Deal. That being said, Warren is the only non-Sanders candidate who I would be willing to vote for in my non-swing state. Her mention of a wealth tax boosted her significantly in my view from "neutral" to "somewhat positive." Ghost Leviathan posted:I'm really surprised you hadn't heard about it. A lot of liberals 'support' women of colour right up until the very moment a woman of colour doesn't happily follow the neoliberal line, and then holy poo poo. AOC's been less affected by this mostly by having mad twitter game and not taking any of their bullshit, but it's going to get fun when she endorses Bernie. Yeah, I think a lot of people who aren't "plugged into" online left-wing dialogue aren't even aware that AOC is associated with the radical left. Ytlaya fucked around with this message at 08:34 on Jan 27, 2019 |
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Jan 27, 2019 08:28
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LionArcher posted:And yet sanders is sexist, had huge issues with his campaign being sexist, took 50 mill from the DNC, dismisses Russia act of war.... and is old LionArcher posted:He is, Especially considering he tried to do the old white guy “it shouldn’t matter if the person is black white, male or female “ garbage guys always do when they’re arguing about running for office. We’ve had 45 male presidents, time for a woman ffs. A number of women on Twitter today talked about how they stumped for him and supported his campaign in 2016, and how the harassment was so bad during the campaign and after that they are a never Bernie person. He did a pathetic job answering for that, or trying to calm his Bernie Bro mob online down. LionArcher posted:Trying to gaslight me, a white dude is going to work really well. Instead of responding to anything I addressed, you insult me instead of the fact he’s got a sexism issue. You’re response to attack me with a common tactic used by men who are sexist (usually used against women), isn’t really strengthening your argument, if you have one,
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Jan 27, 2019 08:59
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[quote="420 Gank Mid" post="492034445"] https://twitter.com/IPM_HQ/status/1088962504334761984 https://mobile.twitter.com/JustAGurLnSwedn/status/1089270141152563201
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Jan 27, 2019 09:09
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Jan 27, 2019 09:12
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SeANMcBAY posted:Same. I expect a pretty strong race between him and Harris. I really think it’ll come down to one of the two. I think it will go Harris. Partially because I'm a pessimist, and also that she ticks the boxes for the donators, the clinton wing, and without the baggage of being a clinton. Not to mention we've been seeing for months already the Bernie attacks gearing up, and will just become a non stop poo poo flood from the moment he officially announces. See for example LionArcher there for what we're all in for, for a year and a half. I think that garbage wearing down the people who will be ok with some phony left sounding talking points from Harris will just feel ok and progressive supporting her. Anyways thats my prediction for this hell cycle so.... who are the 3rd party candidates I'll have to support going to be? 
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Jan 27, 2019 09:22
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Man if only Trump actually had locked her up. Then Bernie could refuse to pardon her when he came into office, lol.
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Jan 27, 2019 09:26
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Tom Guycot posted:I think it will go Harris. Partially because I'm a pessimist, and also that she ticks the boxes for the donators, the clinton wing, and without the baggage of being a clinton. Not to mention we've been seeing for months already the Bernie attacks gearing up, and will just become a non stop poo poo flood from the moment he officially announces. Oh, I’ll probably bounce at some point in the near future till it’s closer. I have a busy life and just had some free time this weekend. What’s funny is policy wise what people in this thread want (not Bernie, since he’s also been very war hawkish minus the one vote) is generally what I want. Climate change, UHC, UBI, taxing cooperations and the rich, all things I’m for.
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Jan 27, 2019 09:32
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Harris, Biden, Sanders, and Warren all have the potential to go the distance. Gillibrand, Gabbard, and Booker are all lesser prospects but close enough that they could also make it. I think it's premature to expect a rerun of 2016 except Harris leading the #stillwithstillwithher crowd, especially if someone like Booker also goes the distance, if Warren ends up carrying the left Dem banner instead of Sanders, or if Biden somehow doesn't trip over his own stupid feet.LionArcher posted:(not Bernie, since he’s also been very war hawkish minus the one vote) you're against war hawks but pro Harris? weird Cease to Hope fucked around with this message at 09:35 on Jan 27, 2019 |
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Cease to Hope posted:Harris, Biden, Sanders, and Warren all have the potential to go the distance. Gillibrand, Gabbard, and Booker are all lesser prospects but close enough that they could also make it. I think it's premature to expect a rerun of 2016 except Harris leading the #stillwithstillwithher crowd, especially if someone like Booker also goes the distance, if Warren ends up carrying the left Dem banner instead of Sanders, or if Biden somehow doesn't trip over his own stupid feet. I’m not into war hawks, but I don’t like Bernie getting painted with a saint brush when a lot of it is garbage. I’m aware of Harris’ faults. I’ll take them over Trump.
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Jan 27, 2019 09:39
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LionArcher posted:I’m not into war hawks, but I don’t like Bernie getting painted with a saint brush when a lot of it is garbage. I’m aware of Harris’ faults. I’ll take them over Trump. i wasn't aware trump was seeking the democratic nomination for president
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Jan 27, 2019 09:42
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LionArcher posted:I’m not into war hawks, but I don’t like Bernie getting painted with a saint brush when a lot of it is garbage. I’m aware of Harris’ faults. I’ll take them over Trump. Bernie is the only person running that even vaguely approaches anti-war and anti-imperialist stances (this is also a fairly recent change.) King of Solomon fucked around with this message at 09:45 on Jan 27, 2019 |
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Jan 27, 2019 09:42
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LionArcher posted:Oh, I’ll probably bounce at some point in the near future till it’s closer. I have a busy life and just had some free time this weekend. What’s funny is policy wise what people in this thread want (not Bernie, since he’s also been very war hawkish minus the one vote) is generally what I want. Climate change, UHC, UBI, taxing cooperations and the rich, all things I’m for. I didn't mean you specifically, just that its a perfect demonstration of all the disingenuous things that will be repeated over and over, by disingenuous people.
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Jan 27, 2019 09:45
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King of Solomon posted:Bernie is the only person running that even vaguely approaches anti-war and anti-imperialist stances (this is also a fairly recent change.) Gillibrand isn't great but has always pushed nonproliferation and opposed US foreign occupation. This isn't nonintervention or pacifism per se (and there's lots of obvious shittiness like supporting the Libya intervention and her whole BDS ban thing), but it's also something she's been consistent about for years so it's probably personal belief rather than blowing with the latest wind. That puts her to the left of pretty much everyone running besides Sanders.
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Jan 27, 2019 09:50
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bernie/warren? no bernie/gillibrand? no bernie/nina turner? hell yes! its sad that hillary is still feeding these people's dementia. just recently she gave a really salty interview about how everyone who doesn't like kamala harris should exit the dem party. she took swipes at bernie as well for "not supporting her after he lost" https://twitter.com/shannonrwatts/status/1089018976124907520 Condiv fucked around with this message at 10:06 on Jan 27, 2019 |
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Jan 27, 2019 10:01
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Bernie's got nothing to gain with a centrist VP. There's no way he's going to appease the establishment without them demanding total capitulation and/or trying to sideline him at the first opportunity. Nina Turner is probably the best idea for shoring up representation, and that she has a grudge against the DNC is a positive. And I think I've banged on enough about donut twitter, but we all know that's going to be fun to watch.
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Condiv posted:its sad that hillary is still feeding these people's dementia. just recently she gave a really salty interview about how everyone who doesn't like kamala harris should exit the dem party. she took swipes at bernie as well for "not supporting her after he lost" She did the same loving thing to Obama. Worse, probably.
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LionArcher posted:I don’t like Bernie getting painted with a saint brush Bernie is the compromise candidate. We don't view him as a saint; there are areas where he needs to improve.
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Jan 27, 2019 10:15
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LionArcher posted:I’m looking for the 50 million figure to back up... I saw it earlier. He’s also terrible on gun control. He's actually not terrible on gun control at all, and is certainly not worse than most of his opponents or likely-opponents in this primary. Please don't repeat nonsense like this without even attempting to back it up.
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Jan 27, 2019 10:37
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Jan 27, 2019 10:56
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Condiv posted:https://twitter.com/lenadunham/status/823554487189196800 If this isn't a kiss of death I dunno what is
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Jan 27, 2019 11:01
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Condiv posted:https://twitter.com/lenadunham/status/823554487189196800 Harris won’t follow her back and then Dunham will write a think piece about why she’s entitled to have black people follow her.
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Jan 27, 2019 11:10
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Jan 27, 2019 12:08
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If Bernie Sanders is too hawkish for you the only choice that leaves in the democratic party is Dennis Kucinich
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Condiv posted:https://twitter.com/lenadunham/status/823554487189196800 i wouldn't be surprised if Kamala Harris's people are already quietly reaching out to Lena Dunham and telling her to stfu.
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LionArcher posted:Oh, I’ll probably bounce at some point in the near future till it’s closer. I have a busy life and just had some free time this weekend. What’s funny is policy wise what people in this thread want (not Bernie, since he’s also been very war hawkish minus the one vote) is generally what I want. Climate change, UHC, UBI, taxing cooperations and the rich, all things I’m for. did you ever find a source for your bullshit mr. i'm staying home or voting trump after bernie wins the primary
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Gresh posted:i wouldn't be surprised if Kamala Harris's people are already quietly reaching out to Lena Dunham and telling her to stfu. Kamala Harris hired a bunch of former Hillary people for her campaign. Also, she did this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRZe9cR1zqc I think Kamala and Lena are gonna get along just fine.
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Gripweed posted:Kamala Harris hired a bunch of former Hillary people for her campaign. Also, she did this Good, let Lena Dunham stump for Harris because it'll help the better candidates. Harris is a neoliberal darling and her announcement video was comically 100% banal platitudes set to corny music with absolutely nothing concrete people can sink their teeth into. She's supposedly for M4A, but I don't buy that for a second.
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Jan 27, 2019 15:02
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Reminder for the not terminally online this is the lady who wrote the insane "Hillary is Athena, Hillary I'd light itself" piece
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https://twitter.com/justagurlnswedn/status/1089272437307527168?s=21 Lol you’re a joke and so is this lady. Extremely honorable ancient racist insists to crowd that Muslims can’t be good family men.
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Lightning Knight posted:https://twitter.com/justagurlnswedn/status/1089272437307527168?s=21 reminder: 
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Ghost Leviathan posted:The whole 'racist, sexist Berniebros' thing seems like massive projection, not just because of all the wealthy white male pundits finding new ways to dismiss women and Bernie supporters of colour, but, well, donut twitter. It's Hillary die-hards whining. Which still exist, to a staggering degree! Some of them came to MDP events around Michigan in 2018, absolutely furious. Hillary having a small segment of boomer women that support her entirely by blaming others with no self-introspection is pretty funny, all things considered. AsInHowe fucked around with this message at 15:38 on Jan 27, 2019 |
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Jan 27, 2019 15:35
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Z. Autobahn posted:Yeah, as I've said about a million times itt, I think the polls at this point, especially favorability polls, are largely bullshit name recognition and not really meaningfully predictive. I'm just reporting on my own experience because I feel like there's this weird tendency to totally dismiss anti-Bernie Dems as some sort of niche irrelevant group when they're a pretty significant part of the coalition and will play a sizable roll in the primary. Whether we like it or not, liberals exist, there's a whole lot of them, and their votes will be significant. Lmao. Polls are completely unreliable, now a survey of the affluent white women in line at my local Panera Bread location in the other hand
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