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I really enjoyed Man of Steel, and thought some ideas in BvS were interesting, although the movie as a whole had some major issues. When both of these came out I remember reading a lot of interesting critiques about the films. I have two friends who think both movies are absolute garbage, but are willing to group watch them and discuss. I'd like to pre-read a bit before the discussion. Does anyone remember any essays/articles/interpretations/critiques they thought were particularly good?
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Megasabin posted:I really enjoyed Man of Steel, and thought some ideas in BvS were interesting, although the movie as a whole had some major issues. When both of these came out I remember reading a lot of interesting critiques about the films. I have two friends who think both movies are absolute garbage, but are willing to group watch them and discuss. I'd like to pre-read a bit before the discussion. Does anyone remember any essays/articles/interpretations/critiques they thought were particularly good? Yeah just search for all my posts in the thread.
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Jan 25, 2019 20:20
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SMG's has a pretty good point about isolation in Man of Steel that juxtaposes Superman floating in the void after saving the oil workers with him being locked in the closet and such. Most of his stuff is really thought provoking even if I don't necessarily agree with it.
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Jan 25, 2019 20:22
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Megasabin posted:I really enjoyed Man of Steel, and thought some ideas in BvS were interesting, although the movie as a whole had some major issues. When both of these came out I remember reading a lot of interesting critiques about the films. I have two friends who think both movies are absolute garbage, but are willing to group watch them and discuss. I'd like to pre-read a bit before the discussion. Does anyone remember any essays/articles/interpretations/critiques they thought were particularly good? K. Waste's Devotional on Man of Steel. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKI0UO5U7qo
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Jan 25, 2019 20:22
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Detective No. 27 posted:K. Waste's Devotional on Man of Steel. Yeah or that.
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Jan 25, 2019 20:25
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BTW here's the original Man of Steel and BvS threads if you guys want to go post-hunting, you gotta have archives access. MoS https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3522629 BvS https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3750431
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Jan 25, 2019 20:28
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In addition to K.Waste's video, check out Josh09's Man of Steel is not objectivist.
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Jan 25, 2019 20:50
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Detective No. 27 posted:K. Waste's Devotional on Man of Steel. Oooh god that narrator voice, what the gently caress?
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Jan 25, 2019 20:55
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K.wastes evil robot voice has grown on me over time but also cus it’s a great video
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Jan 25, 2019 20:59
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Deadline posted:As Aquaman is poised to momentarily supplant The Dark Knight Rises as the biggest grossing film in the DC Universe, Warner Bros has begun the process of bringing director James Wan back for the inevitable sequel. Sources said the plan in discussion is for Wan to oversee the development of a second film, including the selection of writers, and then make a decision on whether to direct it, when he sees the script. https://deadline.com/2019/01/aquaman-sequel-james-wan-plan-jason-momoa-dc-warner-bros-1202540137/
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Jan 25, 2019 23:50
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You watching Jeremy Kyle is both unexpected but completely welcomed by me.
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Jan 26, 2019 00:37
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Gorn Myson posted:You watching Jeremy Kyle is both unexpected but completely welcomed by me. mandatory: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZb9-7i-ncc
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Jan 26, 2019 02:49
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https://twitter.com/KennethJWaste2/status/1089021665340739584
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Jan 26, 2019 05:47
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Glad to see The KISS Demon landed on his feet
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Jan 26, 2019 07:30
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Megasabin posted:I really enjoyed Man of Steel, and thought some ideas in BvS were interesting, although the movie as a whole had some major issues. When both of these came out I remember reading a lot of interesting critiques about the films. I have two friends who think both movies are absolute garbage, but are willing to group watch them and discuss. I'd like to pre-read a bit before the discussion. Does anyone remember any essays/articles/interpretations/critiques they thought were particularly good? This essay on 'Batman v Superman' and it's structure as a take on the Elizabethan/Jacobean revenge tragedy form is quite interesting although I would have used the more universal Freytag's Pyramid to explain the five act structure. It is notable though that it is one of the few analyses if BvS that manages to correctly identify that it has a five act structure rather than the three act structure that is so pervasive in modern film. 
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Jan 26, 2019 11:50
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Highlight of seeing Glass was when one of the characters was googling something and the person next to me leaned to their wife and whispered "he's a mastermind".
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Jan 26, 2019 16:26
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I'm not sure where this goes, but I'd like to know if Sarah Paulson's costuming and makeup in Glass had any particular symbolism. Supposedly Mr. Glass is drawn as a villain by having his hair suggest beady eyes, each character has a signature color, purple for Glass, yellow for The Horde, and green for The Overseer (David Dunn.) Sarah Paulson's character has dyed red hair, pale makeup with very dark eyebrows, and some seriously tall heels. I suppose that goes with her character being the antagonist, but I'd like to hear anyone else's thoughts. Overall I enjoyed the movie, I'd had the ending somewhat spoiled but it still went a lot of places I wasn't anticipating. It makes a nice closed loop for the trilogy. 
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Jan 26, 2019 21:14
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Jutsuka posted:This essay on 'Batman v Superman' and it's structure as a take on the Elizabethan/Jacobean revenge tragedy form is quite interesting although I would have used the more universal Freytag's Pyramid to explain the five act structure. It is notable though that it is one of the few analyses if BvS that manages to correctly identify that it has a five act structure rather than the three act structure that is so pervasive in modern film. Can you explain the 5 act pyramid to me like I'm 12, I count 6 acts.
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Jan 26, 2019 21:52
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WarEternal posted:Highlight of seeing Glass was when one of the characters was googling something and the person next to me leaned to their wife and whispered "he's a mastermind". *i have not seen the movie but* if he was in a coma for 19 years how does he even know how to computer?
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Jan 26, 2019 22:28
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Free Triangle posted:Can you explain the 5 act pyramid to me like I'm 12, I count 6 acts. To be honest that graphic is not the best, I just picked the first one I could find with some explanatory text embedded. Maybe this one will be easier to parse.  A five act structure is divided into: 1: Exposition quote:The exposition is the portion of a story that introduces important background information to the audience; for example, information about the setting, events occurring before the main plot, characters' back stories, etc. Exposition can be conveyed through dialogues, flashbacks, characters' thoughts, background details, in-universe media, or the narrator telling a back-story. 2: Rising Action quote:In the rising action, a series of events build toward the point of greatest interest. The rising action of a story is the series of events that begin immediately after the exposition (introduction) of the story and builds up to the climax. These events are generally the most important parts of the story since the entire plot depends on them to set up the climax and ultimately the satisfactory resolution of the story itself. 3: Climax quote:The climax is the turning point, which changes the protagonist's fate. If the story is a comedy and things were going badly for the protagonist, the plot will begin to unfold in his or her favor, often requiring the protagonist to draw on hidden inner strengths. If the story is a tragedy, the opposite state of affairs will ensue, with things going from good to bad for the protagonist, often revealing the protagonist's hidden weaknesses. 4: Falling Action quote:During the falling action, the conflict between the protagonist and the antagonist unravels, with the protagonist winning or losing against the antagonist. The falling action may contain a moment of final suspense, in which the final outcome of the conflict is in doubt. 5: Dénouement quote:The dénouement comprises events from the end of the falling action to the actual ending scene of the drama or narrative. Conflicts are resolved, creating normality for the characters and a sense of catharsis, or release of tension and anxiety, for the reader. The comedy ends with a dénouement, in which the protagonist is better off than at the story's outset. The tragedy ends with a catastrophe, in which the protagonist is worse off than at the beginning of the narrative.
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Jan 26, 2019 23:29
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Goffer posted:*i have not seen the movie but* if he was in a coma for 19 years how does he even know how to computer? he was bullshitting/faking them out for years
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Jan 27, 2019 00:03
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WarEternal posted:Highlight of seeing Glass was when one of the characters was googling something and the person next to me leaned to their wife and whispered "he's a mastermind". I haven't seen any other examples in awhile but I immediately was thinking Glass had the most realistic computer use I've seen in a movie at least in awhile. The person doing the googling was opening multiple tabs to save stuff in, and then later another character wrote what looked like a realistic conditional (although the text was too tiny/quick to see what language it was)
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Jan 27, 2019 02:26
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Guy A. Person posted:I haven't seen any other examples in awhile but I immediately was thinking Glass had the most realistic computer use I've seen in a movie at least in awhile. The person doing the googling was opening multiple tabs to save stuff in, and then later another character wrote what looked like a realistic conditional (although the text was too tiny/quick to see what language it was) I feel like Shyamalan always does a good job with little touches like this. I just really liked Glass overall. I keep reading people saying the ending ruined it for them somehow, and I'm really not comprehending the complaint at all. If anything, the middle is where it lost me for a bit. The last 20 minutes turned it from an average Shyamalan movie into maybe my favorite of all his films.
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Jan 27, 2019 07:21
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Megasabin posted:I really enjoyed Man of Steel, and thought some ideas in BvS were interesting, although the movie as a whole had some major issues. When both of these came out I remember reading a lot of interesting critiques about the films. I have two friends who think both movies are absolute garbage, but are willing to group watch them and discuss. I'd like to pre-read a bit before the discussion. Does anyone remember any essays/articles/interpretations/critiques they thought were particularly good? On top of what everyone else has recommended, I think this is also very much worth watching. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7p5-14rjWUM
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Jan 27, 2019 19:45
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Just wanted to say thanks to everyone for the recommendations. I watched K. Waste's video, which was great. In the middle of reading that one essay linked for Beavis. I plan to watch the other two videos before next weekend when we are going to do this. I already loved Man of Steel, but these videos are starting to make me learn towards it being my favorite superhero film.
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Jan 27, 2019 20:28
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One of us, one of us, one of us Here's some more reading material if ya wamt it https://geeksofcolor.co/2017/08/17/the-ultimate-immigrant-story-zack-snyders-superman/amp/?__twitter_impression=true https://www.patheos.com/blogs/christandpopculture/2013/07/superman-not-just-a-man-but-a-just-man/
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Jan 27, 2019 22:24
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Gerard Way did a cover of Hazy Shade of Winter for his Netflix show. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTCrqXpKHec
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Jan 28, 2019 01:51
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Glass whipped rear end. One thing I was very VERY surprised to see was how interestingly the action was shot.
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Jan 28, 2019 03:17
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Glass whipped rear end. Interesting. I still haven't seen it, but a lot of the posters I generally trust seem to be digging it heavily, despite the critical response. What did you like about it?
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Jan 28, 2019 03:21
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Fart City posted:Interesting. I still haven't seen it, but a lot of the posters I generally trust seem to be digging it heavily, despite the critical response. What did you like about it? This sounds random, but one thing I really love is how M. Night gets away with having characters speak directly to the camera.
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Jan 28, 2019 03:44
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I'm glad to see people around here taking to Glass, I'm a bit confused by the poor reception when generally I at least understand where people are coming from. Definitely going to start re-watching his films that I haven't seen in quite a while, and some of the ones I skipped due to bad reception. My recollection of Unbreakable paled in comparison to actually watching it again. Excited to give The Village another watch soon.
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Jan 28, 2019 04:29
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Hey, this movie is still happening.
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Jan 28, 2019 04:52
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Sad that the last Fox X-Men movie is probably going to be bad.
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Jan 28, 2019 04:54
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Wasn't there a completely different X-Men movie filmed that was supposed to come out early last year? What happened to that?
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Jan 28, 2019 04:59
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Almost Blue posted:Wasn't there a completely different X-Men movie filmed that was supposed to come out early last year? What happened to that? New Mutants. It's been pushed back multiple times. Still supposed to be released this year.
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Jan 28, 2019 05:00
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Spacebump posted:Sad that the last Fox X-Men movie is probably going to be bad. New Mutants is supposed to come out after it and Simon Kinberg did not direct that one.
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Jan 28, 2019 05:02
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The MSJ posted:New Mutants is supposed to come out after it and Simon Kinberg did not direct that one. I don't believe that's going to get a theatrical release but I guess it still counts.
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Jan 28, 2019 05:06
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:This sounds random, but one thing I really love is how M. Night gets away with having characters speak directly to the camera. I like this about him too. Especially in Signs. I find it to be wonderfully emotional at times. The action scenes ruled too, like you said. The van scene is a pretty interesting way to do a fight like that.
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Jan 28, 2019 05:12
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Spacebump posted:I don't believe that's going to get a theatrical release but I guess it still counts. I'm honestly going to be surprised if New Mutants comes out at all. Like, Disney has literally no reason to bother releasing that movie instead of just memory-holing it and making their own "New Mutants" movie a decade from now.
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WarEternal posted:I'm glad to see people around here taking to Glass, I'm a bit confused by the poor reception when generally I at least understand where people are coming from. Anecdotal, but people I know who saw it talked about being on board up until the final act and then feeling betrayed. They wanted a more conventional ending. I thought it ruled all the way through!
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