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CubanMissile posted:drat, you guys are already too fired up to hear my hot take that the Pro Bowl is cool and good. Anyway, I expect Flag Football to replace regular Football within the next 40 years.
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1glitch0 posted:It might be unfair to cut out the rest of your post but if we're being honest this sentence is what it is all about. But what of the coal miners and steel producers?
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:it's hilarious that people have gone on for pages trying to figure out if a musical or a taxi app are better. No I established in a single short post that musicals are good and taxi apps are literally anathema to human progress pages ago now
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1glitch0 posted:So you're advocating for a regulated system where people can get a ride from one place to another and the drivers and cars are licensed and regulated and, in addittion, the drivers can make a good living? I’m advocating for making things as good for the worker, and consumer as possible. Ride sharing is one of those real-life, complex issues because while I understand it disrupted and upended and industry and that has had harsh effects on taxi drivers, there’s also no denying it’s had overwhelmingly good effects for the poor and working class. It’s also a hard issue, because if we’re talking about industries that make it harder than others to have sympathy for, my personal experiences taking cabs all my life have led me to believe the taxi industry on the whole is douchy and scandalous as gently caress, and has been for a very long time. And if ride sharing services stay the same as they are, and continue to operate in a grey area of private contractor-“gig economy”, I’m OK with that too, even if I’d prefer to see it resemble what the taxi industry could have been had they actually given a gently caress and cared about improving the industry as a whole, instead of maximizing financial extortion and grifting for medallion holders. heyitsamanda fucked around with this message at 00:37 on Jan 28, 2019 |
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Slo-Tek posted:There is a decent Sci-Fi short in this idea, I think. Because it was a known issue with the facial-recognition in the HP and Sony webcams, IIRC, at the time, I honestly wanted this to come up in the Robocop remake. Like OmniCorp gets in a tizzy because it's revealed that Robocop's targeting system can't register African-American targets.
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Lycus posted:Was that Stallone, being a conservative, becoming a big star and seizing control of the series? I doubt it, I think it was just that it turned out the marketable part of the movie was him blowing up a helicopter by throwing a rock at it and picking up a truck mounted machine gun and using it to shoot like 50 people and the non-marketable part was all his friends dying of cancer from agent orange and all the people killed being americans. So every movie tilted towards more machine guns and less american corruption until it was 99% machine guns and 1% percent corruption.
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CubanMissile posted:I worked in bars in Las Vegas so naturally I called a lot of cabs for people. One of those bars was across the street from the Hard Rock Hotel. All casinos in Vegas have a cab line that always has about five or six cabs waiting to take hotel guests to the airport. Any time we'd call for a cab they would send someone from the other side of town and it would take them about 45 minutes to get to us. This happened every single time. Half the time the driver wouldn't show up at all and we'd have to call a different company. They could have easily peeled off a driver from across the street but apparently that's not how this works. I feel like I've lost my mind. People scam you. If you regularly pass out in the back of a vehicle that is driven by someone who is paid by the length and/or time you're in the vehicle they're going to take the long way. This has nothing to do wirh public transit. It just means you're an idiot.
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Seph posted:If your point here is that somehow taxis fit this description then you're wrong. Most of the medallion systems are exploited by people with capital who contract out the jobs just like Uber. In Boston, some cabbies were paying medallion owners $500/night for the privilege of driving their cab. They got to keep whatever they made on top of that. the medallion cap is there to prevent cabs from flooding the streets and destroying city streets by drastically increasing the wear and tear on the infrastructure especially in a place like NYC or Boston
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I'm a luddite because I think people who get paid by a company for their work should be considered employees and receive benefits that entails.
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Jan 28, 2019 00:17
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1glitch0 posted:I feel like I've lost my mind. People scam you. If you regularly pass out in the back of a vehicle that is driven by someone who is paid by the length and/or time you're in the vehicle they're going to take the long way. This has nothing to do wirh public transit. It just means you're an idiot. Cool. Let's blame the victim and excuse the decades of terrible customer service and outright scamming in the taxi industry.
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Jan 28, 2019 00:18
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ewiley posted:https://twitter.com/mjg59/status/1089496062279278594 I don't know whether the german dude or the artist was correct (and I'm inclined to side with the artist), but...whether or not the sound was brighter / had attenuated bass is not a subjective question. It's literally arguing about whether a number is higher or lower.
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Giggy posted:I'm a luddite because I think people who get paid by a company for their work should be considered employees and receive benefits that entails. Yeah. There are plenty of reasons to oppose uber. Turns out it doesn't have to be an either/or between Uber and taxis.
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1glitch0 posted:I feel like I've lost my mind. People scam you. If you regularly pass out in the back of a vehicle that is driven by someone who is paid by the length and/or time you're in the vehicle they're going to take the long way. This has nothing to do wirh public transit. It just means you're an idiot. If only there was an app that tracks the specific route your supposed to take and if you deviate from said route you can get a refund. Or maybe the times I've gotten blackout drunk I should just sleep in my car with a gun on my lap, cause you know, scammers gonna scam.
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exploded mummy posted:the medallion cap is there to prevent cabs from flooding the streets and destroying city streets by drastically increasing the wear and tear on the infrastructure It's the law of unintended consequences. Sure that sounds fine in theory, but when you put up barriers to a low-skill, high-demand job it gets abused by those with power.
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exploded mummy posted:out of curiosity, how many days a week, because it sounds like he's not even getting paid minimum wage in New York or Conneticut He works 4-5 days some weeks. Sometimes he works 2-3 days straight through. He’s certainly not working more than 40-45 hours/week. But even more importantly, it’s that flexibility. If his back is having a hosed day and hurting him, he doesn’t have to work without jeopardizing his job/means of income. And if he’s feeling good, he can jam out a long day and make some cash. Same thing for the tons of doc appointments. I mean sure, yeah he has some lovely days. But he’s for sure averaging that, he lives with me to split rent and I see his routine/cash flow more or less.
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This thread is just screaming "I'M A CUSTOMER AND DEMAND GREAT RESPECT." Like, I'm sorry the dude that has to deal with lovely people all day didn't smile at you. The Uber people are nice because they're desperate for money and don't want their rating to go down.
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Seph posted:If your point here is that somehow taxis fit this description then you're wrong. Most of the medallion systems are exploited by people with capital who contract out the jobs just like Uber. In Boston, some cabbies were paying medallion owners $500/night for the privilege of driving their cab. They got to keep whatever they made on top of that. The corruption in the medallion system is ridiculous and there are better ways. But there needs ro be a cap on the amount of taxis in a city to make the system work. It's not artificial or just for fun. If a city is flooded with cab drivers no one makes money.
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heyitsamanda posted:there’s also no denying it’s had overwhelmingly good effects for the poor and working class. Ahahahhahahahahababahababvavdvsvabgix a deny.
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1glitch0 posted:The corruption in the medallion system is ridiculous and there are better ways. But there needs ro be a cap on the amount of taxis in a city to make the system work. It's not artificial or just for fun. If a city is flooded with cab drivers no one makes money. Let the market decide prices 
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1glitch0 posted:I feel like I've lost my mind. People scam you. If you regularly pass out in the back of a vehicle that is driven by someone who is paid by the length and/or time you're in the vehicle they're going to take the long way. This has nothing to do wirh public transit. It just means you're an idiot. And Uber and Lyft map out your travel and time from arrival/drop-off such that scamming is much harder. I'd 100% vote for 24/7 BART service to SFO from Sunset and Oakland. Until that happens, vehicle transportation is the only option. And until you've needed a 4am taxi to show up on time to make a flight or been piss drunk at 3am and need to quickly travel 5 miles home then you're ignoring why people see ride sharing services as filling a big consumer need. Subway service didn't go to Marin before Lyft/Uber and there's no reason to believe it will after.
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Giggy posted:This thread is just screaming "I'M A CUSTOMER AND DEMAND GREAT RESPECT." Ah yes, we're so entitled because we want to avoid taxi scams, poor service, and racist drivers selecting against POC. Tell me more about how taxi drivers are just poor innocent people crushed by capitalism, and how it's me who's the rear end in a top hat for wanting a better system for consumers.
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Giggy posted:This thread is just screaming "I'M A CUSTOMER AND DEMAND GREAT RESPECT." No, but as a chick getting off my shift in downtown Miami/Brickell, it was epically life changing to be able to que up a reliable, non-scam artist ride for a fraction of my hard earned tips compared to the hit or miss cab driver, and WAY more often than not skeevy as hell cab driver. Oh, my cell phone died in the car because I’ve been at work all day and all the sudden the driver is acting hostile and I’m wondering what my options are? Happened more times than I can count. This poo poo isn’t uncommon, anyone who’s lived in major cities and taken cabs regularly, or lived in suburbs and needed a cab for whatever reason, will most likely attest to how hosed the taxi industry is/was. heyitsamanda fucked around with this message at 00:35 on Jan 28, 2019 |
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Seph posted:Cool. Let's blame the victim and excuse the decades of terrible customer service and outright scamming in the taxi industry. I'm sure his "If you get drunk and fall asleep where you're not supposed to, then you deserve whatever happens to you because you're an idiot" viewpoint goes over swimmingly at the rape crisis centers.
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OctaMurk posted:Let the market decide prices Yeah, so I can pay a $100 Uber as opposed to a flat rate $30 taxi because I got bumped to the next day out of the airport and so did 10,000 other people heyitsamanda posted:He works 4-5 days some weeks. Sometimes he works 2-3 days straight through. He’s certainly not working more than 40-45 hours/week. nah, that's good on him if he can't find any work that he can deal with without aggrevating his back injury (i have a bad one, but I also mostly have a desk job so I'm somewhat fortunate) and I guess he isn't a disability candidate either, but I think it's kind of lovely that he's not getting minimum wage despite working for a company 40+ hours a week Seph posted:Ah yes, we're so entitled because we want to avoid taxi scams, poor service, and racist drivers selecting against POC. Tell me more about how taxi drivers are just poor innocent people crushed by capitalism, and how it's me who's the rear end in a top hat for wanting a better system for consumers. this happens in Uber and Lyft all the time
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i am harry posted:Ahahahhahahahahababahababvavdvsvabgix a deny. If you read my posts about this here, I’m not really sure how you can deny the truth in that. Having a means to support yourself when you otherwise wouldn’t, even if it’s not perfect, is a net positive. And cheaper, more accessible rides while working in the service industry? I consider that a net positive. That $7 ride vs, the $20something taxi adds up when you’re pulling $150/shift and living in a high rent area.
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Seph posted:Ah yes, we're so entitled because we want to avoid taxi scams, poor service, and racist drivers selecting against POC. Tell me more about how taxi drivers are just poor innocent people crushed by capitalism, and how it's me who's the rear end in a top hat for wanting a better system for consumers. I'm sure we both want a better system. But I want a better system for workers and consumers. And a lot of the complaints about taxis are focusing on how Uber is better for consumers while ignoring it's worse for workers. Also, a lot of taxi drivers are poor POC who see the worst of humanity like every day.
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KingNastidon posted:And Uber and Lyft map out your travel and time from arrival/drop-off such that scamming is much harder. I'd 100% vote for 24/7 BART service to SFO from Sunset and Oakland. Until that happens, vehicle transportation is the only option. And until you've needed a 4am taxi to show up on time to make a flight or been piss drunk at 3am and need to quickly travel 5 miles home then you're ignoring why people see ride sharing services as filling a big consumer need. Subway service didn't go to Marin before Lyft/Uber and there's no reason to believe it will after. Honestly uber exists mostly because the taxi industry simply failed to do any engagement in new technology. Like there is no reason every taxi company could not have signed on to some global shared taxi app that did things like app based ordering/mapping/single payment portal/language translation/precalculation of fees, but they just kinda didn't. You can fly all around the world and uber works the same no matter what, but you go one city over and ordering a taxi using a cell phone changes all around if there is even is an app. I don't think uber or lyft would have even gotten off the ground if taxi companies had been onboard early on having a modern phone app that came close to the uber of lyft ones.
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Between taxis and Uber, I choose Uber everytime. I've had some bad drivers, and Uber has always sided with me.
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Giggy posted:I'm sure we both want a better system. But I want a better system for workers and consumers. A guy I went to high school with runs a cab company for his parents because they needed him to have a job after he got out of rehab. His advice: "Always hire Ethiopians. Ethiopians never complain."
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Morbus posted:I don't know whether the german dude or the artist was correct (and I'm inclined to side with the artist), but...whether or not the sound was brighter / had attenuated bass is not a subjective question. It's literally arguing about whether a number is higher or lower. Sure, Hubble did an experiment with trained musicians who all had perfect pitch. He wanted to test the shift of sound waves due to movement, so he put various instruments on moving platforms and had the musicians all model the exact pitch differences so he could describe the exact change in pitch. ON THE OTHER HAND Dumb people continue to buy Bose stereo systems and are duped by dumb audio tricks that make the must sound 'better' just based emphasizing certain ranges of hearing that only old white people can hear.
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heyitsamanda posted:If you read my posts about this here, I’m not really sure how you can deny the truth in that. Having a means to support yourself when you otherwise wouldn’t, even if it’s not perfect, is a net positive. I can get the "don't let perfect be the enemy of good" here, but this is the kind of reasoning the leads to "It's better to be a slave on the plantation than starving in the streets". Exploitation is exploitation, and companies like Uber don't get a pass because their exploitees get a benefit out of it.
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exploded mummy posted:this happens in Uber and Lyft all the time You're right, it's not perfect, but it happens way less than with regular taxis who face no repercussions. Unlike uber/lyft drivers who are penalized if they cancel too many rides after accepting. Compared to the numerous occasions I've seen of open taxis blowing past a POC hailing them. There's also the fact that taxis don't often search for fares in areas where POC live (Bronx, deep Brooklyn, Dorchester, etc.) so even if the drivers aren't racist you're at an inherent disadvantage compared to an app where you can summon the car to your doorstep. Seph fucked around with this message at 00:40 on Jan 28, 2019 |
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Failed Imagineer posted:https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/1089664290305511425?s=19 Amazing, Pence thinks I'm god. *Donnie mentally gives Pence more veep points than his burger getter*
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Aramis posted:I can get the "don't let perfect be the enemy of good" here, but this is the kind of reasoning the leads to "It's better to be a slave on the plantation than starving in the streets". Exploitation is exploitation, and companies like Uber don't get a pass because their exploitees get a benefit out of it. I feel like you probably could've picked a better analogy.
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Aramis posted:I can get the "don't let perfect be the enemy of good" here, but this is the kind of reasoning the leads to "It's better to be a slave on the plantation than starving in the streets". Exploitation is exploitation, and companies like Uber don't get a pass because their exploitees get a benefit out of it. The person you're quoting is an exploiter. They are actively arguing for lower wages for workers because it makes the services they use more affordable.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:drat, when Trump goes five hours without actively pissing on something this thread really goes off the rails Trump thread without the Trump descends into petty bickering about dumb poo poo rather rapidly. Sometimes there's cool stuff to be learned though. One of my guilty pleasures is reading food chat in the Trump thread.
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