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Graphic
Sep 4, 2018

It's like Lenin said
America is a bourgeois dictatorship. There's a modicum of democracy and debate within the bourgeois class itself on how best to rape and exploit the lower classes but that's about where it ends.

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WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo
https://twitter.com/marcorubio/status/1089178211387359232

smarxist
Jul 26, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

Graphic posted:

America is a bourgeois dictatorship. There's a modicum of democracy and debate within the bourgeois class itself on how best to rape and exploit the lower classes but that's about where it ends.

the dictatorship of capital is coming baby, the state is going to wither away like Marx predicted, but in a hilariously evil way for the masses

Autism Sneaks
Nov 21, 2016
https://twitter.com/Pontifex/status/1089327127277621248?s=19

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 26 days!)


This post will never stop being funny.

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
drat the catholic church is so lame lmfao

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

pokemon go to confession

smarxist
Jul 26, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
Describe in three emoji how communing with Christ makes you feel

Autism Sneaks
Nov 21, 2016

i say swears online posted:

pokemon go to confession

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMCJJkIR4pY

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvaEJzoaYZk

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qbi2rMQveHo

Catgirl Al Capone
Dec 15, 2007


how do you do, fellow youth ministers

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



i wanna tweet that to those paleoconservative social catholics that keep showing up to this conference for a periodical i enjoy. they've built this whole dumbass worldview on the timeless anticapitalist transcendence of the Catholic church's beauty and scholasticism but its actually just poo poo like that lol

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 26 days!)

Frog Act posted:

i wanna tweet that to those paleoconservative social catholics that keep showing up to this conference for a periodical i enjoy. they've built this whole dumbass worldview on the timeless anticapitalist transcendence of the Catholic church's beauty and scholasticism but its actually just poo poo like that lol

I'm pretty sure most of those people already despise Vatican II and are sedevacantists.

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



Pener Kropoopkin posted:

I'm pretty sure most of those people already despise Vatican II and are sedevacantists.

they are but sometimes they get extra mad about stuff like this. right now they're all posting long stupid articles about how right-wing parties need to adopt fully socialist economic policies, or at least be to the left of social democrats, in order to trick people into being more Catholic.

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

The Catholic Church was anti-capitalist back in the day

because they were a cornerstone of feudalism, which early capitalists were struggling against.

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



Atrocious Joe posted:

The Catholic Church was anti-capitalist back in the day

because they were a cornerstone of feudalism, which early capitalists were struggling against.

yeah most of this cohort of "intellectuals" are reactionary monarchists or at least theocrats who believe in the importance of the state being explicitly sanctioned and guided by the Catholic church. they interest me because their theoretical proclivities often result in them rubbing shoulders with anti-liberal philosophers, marxists, anarchists, etc and they feign genuine interest in ideas coming from Marxist and leftist thinkers in general in order to appropriate them for their own bizarre agenda. like the whole left anarchist thing about organic, authentic society being derived from institutions with a precapitalist intellectual provenance and social influence not predicated on commodities, marketing, or promoting Liberal social agendas (which I'm ambivalent about but is a common enough thing) is a set of ideas they're particularly fond of. for all their set dressing they basically yearn to be a bishop in the prevernacular medieval church, guiding the peasants with their benevolent scholastic wisdom, they aren't genuinely interested in anything that isn't odious

like this shitbird rambling about eastern mysticism despite being a paleoconservative fundie (its a thread not just one tweet)

https://twitter.com/johnmilbank3/status/1089404786447912960

or this guy who i once saw speak at a conference and i think is exceptionally dangerous because he has the same agenda as these other guys but is really explicit about appropriating left-wing rhetoric in order to disingenuously advance his reactionary worldview

https://twitter.com/AdrianPabst1/status/1089124606089281537

THS
Sep 15, 2017

i say swears online posted:

pokemon go to confession

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo
https://twitter.com/ladrerie/status/1089614424623771648

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001

Frog Act posted:

yeah most of this cohort of "intellectuals" are reactionary monarchists or at least theocrats who believe in the importance of the state being explicitly sanctioned and guided by the Catholic church. they interest me because their theoretical proclivities often result in them rubbing shoulders with anti-liberal philosophers, marxists, anarchists, etc and they feign genuine interest in ideas coming from Marxist and leftist thinkers in general in order to appropriate them for their own bizarre agenda. like the whole left anarchist thing about organic, authentic society being derived from institutions with a precapitalist intellectual provenance and social influence not predicated on commodities, marketing, or promoting Liberal social agendas (which I'm ambivalent about but is a common enough thing) is a set of ideas they're particularly fond of. for all their set dressing they basically yearn to be a bishop in the prevernacular medieval church, guiding the peasants with their benevolent scholastic wisdom, they aren't genuinely interested in anything that isn't odious

there's a guy on youtube called the distributist that seems to fall in that mould, a conservative anti-capitalist using GK Chesteron as an avatar. seems like he's cozying up to some of the zero books leftists. i sort of don't mind these guys because I personally don't think you can ever wind back the clock and restore the bishoprics and retake stolen church land, but I dunno

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.
Some good Marx to brighten the thread: https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/iwma/documents/1864/lincoln-letter.htm

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 26 days!)

Dreylad posted:

there's a guy on youtube called the distributist that seems to fall in that mould, a conservative anti-capitalist using GK Chesteron as an avatar. seems like he's cozying up to some of the zero books leftists. i sort of don't mind these guys because I personally don't think you can ever wind back the clock and restore the bishoprics and retake stolen church land, but I dunno

Distributism is also seriously dumb.

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Distributism is also seriously dumb.

Distributism makes a lot more sense when you realize it was the church's last attempt to wiggle out of embracing capitalism

Modern distributions are the kind of people who pick an ideology based on a desire to be unique and the fuzzy feeling it gives them

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

Congrats to Don

https://twitter.com/LouiseMensch/status/1089686223415898113

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

The whole thread is amazing and Louise Mensch being the only one to realize he was being ironic while the journalists and CIA spooks took him at face value ftw

Pablo Nergigante
Apr 16, 2002

Lol

https://twitter.com/vxsnickers/status/1089691304630448128?s=21

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 26 days!)

e: beaten

smarxist
Jul 26, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

Plutonis posted:

The whole thread is amazing and Louise Mensch being the only one to realize he was being ironic while the journalists and CIA spooks took him at face value ftw

game recognize game

platzapS
Aug 4, 2007

i don't care for anticommunists.

https://twitter.com/VoCommunism/status/1089626970470707200

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 26 days!)


gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/MattBruenig/status/1089554963255250949

smarxist
Jul 26, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
Thanks Matt

apropos to nothing
Sep 5, 2003
theyre both social democracies

Algund Eenboom
May 4, 2014

https://twitter.com/schwarz/status/1027613410521964544

Graphic
Sep 4, 2018

It's like Lenin said

either the workers control the means of production or they do not. Cuba is the only socialist country in the world.

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



Graphic posted:

either the workers control the means of production or they do not. Cuba is the only socialist country in the world.

does anyone have a good source explaining economic devolution and democracy in Cuba’s productive enterprises? I just realized I have a very limited understanding of the Cuban administrative system

Kurnugia
Sep 2, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

apropos to nothing posted:

theyre both social democracies

yeah but norways way richer and cooler

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 26 days!)

Graphic posted:

either the workers control the means of production or they do not. Cuba is the only socialist country in the world.

way to throw North Korea under the bus

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swimsuit
Jan 22, 2009

yeah
is settlers solely about america, or does it look at other colonial nations as well?

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