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LividLiquid posted:Look. You're countering my saying "this extremely common thing is still really impressive to me" with "but it's so common!" Does that make more sense? have you ever heard a british football chant in your life
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Association football is way too silly to get mad about. There's no point in getting mad about the way people get mad about it, either. Let's just be mad about Our Gay Sport together.
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Admiral Joeslop posted:I forgot about the Rumble and read the summary on Wikipedia. Jarrett came back in mid 2017 with the intent on selling what remained of Global Force Wrestling (his failed 2014 post-TNA venture) while serving as a consultant for Anthem (the winner of the coveted dumber than Dixie Carter award) As this was going on, a lot of GFW branding appeared on the shows, TNA started to show the old GFW tv tapings as PPV specials, and commissioned new belts. In August 2017, Jarrett had a very public meltdown presumably due to substance abuse. He no showed some events in Canada claiming the mounties were chasing him. Less than a week later, he showed up to wrestle at AAA Triplemania in a team battle royale as part of Team GFW. Jarrett didnt initially go out with the rest of his team, and when he did, he was clearly wasted and started throwing tortillas into the crowd.9 Impact and Anthem immediately severed ties after this. However in true TNA fashion, they spent months rebranding but never bothered to actually purchase the new IP, so they had to immediately remove all traces of GFW, though it turns out they kept some of logos that Jarrett and GFW did and still showed some of those PPV specials. (Which we know because Jarrett has sued them over it) They put stickers on their brand new belts to cover up the GFW logo. Jarrett would enter into WWE funded rehab in fall 2017. He hasn't really been involved with TNA directly since, though he is working with some of their sister promotions as a freelancer.
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Jan 28, 2019 16:29
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Did Jeff Jarrett with the Roadie somehow never face Honky Tonk Man with Rockabilly during all that stupid bullshit?
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rovert posted:After seeing him in the Royal Rumble do you think Johnny Gargano is too small for the man roster? 205 Live guy? NXT lifer? How will it pan out? Of anyone, the ninja warrior girl looked too small for the main roster. I know she can do some cool ninja warrior stuff, but she looks like half the size of AJ Lee, it's hard to see them booking her to do anything but get destroyed a lot.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Did Jeff Jarrett with the Roadie somehow never face Honky Tonk Man with Rockabilly during all that stupid bullshit? Rockabilly and the Roadie feuded for a bit in 1997 when The Roadie was "The Real Double J". Then they teamed together for a little bit under Honky Tonk's management before Billy turned on HTM, which was the start of the New Age Outlaws. Jarrett missed all of this because he was in WCW at the time and when he came back he was part of the NWA invasion.
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Kim Justice posted:the NWA invasion. Thank you. And does anyone have a brief synopsis of this stupid bullshit? I wasn't watching in '98 and it's always jarring to see "NWA SUCH-AND-SUCH CHAMPION" on TV and PPVs from that six-month period in '98 when I go back and take a look. EDIT: Wasn't it a piss-poor attempt at their own NWO invasion and Cornette somehow thought it would work?
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Thank you. And does anyone have a brief synopsis of this stupid bullshit? I wasn't watching in '98 and it's always jarring to see "NWA SUCH-AND-SUCH CHAMPION" on TV and PPVs from that six-month period in '98 when I go back and take a look. they were doing anything they could think of to get eyes and heat as Austin/McMahon had yet to blossom
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exploded mummy posted:they were doing anything they could think of to get eyes and heat as Austin/McMahon had yet to blossom Really? I thought the timeline of the NWA poo poo was early to mid-'98, which was when Austin/McMahon had already started.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Thank you. And does anyone have a brief synopsis of this stupid bullshit? I wasn't watching in '98 and it's always jarring to see "NWA SUCH-AND-SUCH CHAMPION" on TV and PPVs from that six-month period in '98 when I go back and take a look. It spun out of a couple of "shoot" promos that they let Jim Cornette do on RAW where he ran down WCW and ECW and being lovely wrestling companies. The shoot promos and the NWA thing were at Vince's suggestion, I don't think Cornette thought it was going to be successful or anything. No idea how WWE got it into their heads to escalate it to the point where they were hiring The Rock N' Roll Express and trotting Barry Windham out there. Jeff Jarrett got stuck into the group because he had just defected from WCW and was also doing a lame "shoot" gimmick talking about how WCW misused him and WWF stuck him in a stupid country singer gimmick. When the NWA poo poo was dropped a few weeks later, JJ was back in country singer gimmick lol It barely lasted over a month before they were phasing people out and not even letting Dan Severn carry the NWA belt to the ring.
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Jan 28, 2019 20:20
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I've never understood giving a wrestler a celebrity gimmick when people know that they haven't actually released any music. Considering that "Rap is Crap" actually got into rotation on some country music stations, for all the money WCW was spending on bullshit they could've had 3 Count release a single.
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Jan 28, 2019 20:24
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Halloween Jack posted:I've never understood giving a wrestler a celebrity gimmick when people know that they haven't actually released any music. International law forbids crimes against humanity.
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Jan 28, 2019 20:37
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I thought we were done talking about JJ.
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Jan 28, 2019 20:40
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Halloween Jack posted:I thought we were done talking about JJ. Ain't he great?
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Jan 28, 2019 20:46
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Thank you Now, can anyone tell me about the Mick Foley/Melina thing? Apparently he got really creepy and obsessed to the point of writing it in his third book?
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Jan 28, 2019 21:55
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Tato posted:Of anyone, the ninja warrior girl looked too small for the main roster. I know she can do some cool ninja warrior stuff, but she looks like half the size of AJ Lee, it's hard to see them booking her to do anything but get destroyed a lot. killed the high spots though KILLED THEM
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Jan 29, 2019 00:03
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Aphrodite posted:It was until recently. Now you can just sign up. I don't have any intention of signing up, but I just went to their website to test this and the first thing it asks for is to log in with your TV provider's credentials if you want to download the app or watch online.
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Yeah apparently what they changed was that the website exists now. In the past it was a TV channel and in demand only. I guess I misunderstood.
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So, being a little out of Smackdown's orbit, I'm curious. What was the trigger that shot Becky Lynch into the stratosphere? There's usually some rough moment that could be said to be a start of some kind. Austin had his King of the Ring bit, Bryan had 17 seconds and the after Raw Wrestlemania. Becky seemed to be treading water for the last few years and then suddenly around...five months or so, ago? She was suddenly on a rocket. So when did this really start and what was the rough trigger, if there was anything?
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Jan 29, 2019 04:28
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Charlotte being added to the Carmella title match.
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Yeah, Becky was building momentum but she was still basically in the "good but probably never gonna do more than a cup of coffee in the main event" status but when Charlotte got inserted into the match it basically triggered something beautiful.
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Yep, Becky earned a title shot over the course of a few weeks while Charlotte was out of commission for surgery, soon as she came back she was inserted into the title match for no reason, she stole the pin from Becky, and postmatch Becky lost her poo poo and destroyed Charlotte. The crowd popped like a motherfucker and the rest is history. Becky put herself over even harder by completely owning everyone on social media and building her character in a huge way. Additionally, the buildup to survivor series had her kick Ronda’s rear end and in a brawl Nia shoot punched her in the face. Becky, concussed and on autopilot while bleeding all over the place managed to finish the show, beat Ronda with a chair, and talk an incredible amount of poo poo before we got the iconic shot of her covered in her own blood and raising her arms like the badass she is.
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Cornwind Evil posted:So, being a little out of Smackdown's orbit, I'm curious. Carmella won the women's title off Charlotte and spent a couple months killing what was left of Asuka's mystique. Meanwhile, Becky was gradually climbing up the ranks by going through much of the Smackdown roster. This led to her earning her shot at Summerslam. Then Charlotte was given a non-title match with Carmella, which she won, and was thrown into the Summerslam match, making it a triple threat. Charlotte ended up winning the triple threat by attacking Becky from behind and pinning her. Becky attacked her after the match, which was supposed to be a big heel moment. Except the fans were completely behind Becky because they felt that she was the hero of the story. She worked her way up while Charlotte had an easier path to the same match. Charlotte kind of sucks as a face, so any attempts at her trying to get sympathy fell flat and Becky's one attempt to cut a heel promo was no-sold by the audience. It basically became the fans insisting to WWE that, no, we think Becky is the face and Charlotte is the heel and you aren't creative enough to change our minds.
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Becky also used her time off to continue her character work via twitter with various accounts of her attempts to get out of "doctor jail", and even when WWE had her come out and handpick Charlotte as her replacement (basically Bret Hart giving Hulk Hogan to go ahead to fight Yokozuna) she made it work by then declaring that her concussion made her accidentially hug somebody she didn't like. Becky owns and I hope like gently caress she beats Ronda in the main event of Wrestlemania.
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Jan 29, 2019 05:07
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Gavok posted:Charlotte kind of sucks as a face, so any attempts at her trying to get sympathy fell flat I will never understand why Vince McMahon thinks people want to cheer people that are portrayed as better than them.
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TriffTshngo posted:I will never understand why Vince McMahon thinks people want to cheer people that are portrayed as better than them. In Vince's mind that would mean no one would want to cheer for him and people love cheering for him.
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Jan 29, 2019 05:24
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TriffTshngo posted:I will never understand why Vince McMahon thinks people want to cheer people that are portrayed as better than them. WWE routinely overthinks sure-thing booking, but trying to turn Charlotte, one of the best natural heels in the company, into a face against naturally valiant babyface Becky was one of their more dunderheaded ideas as of late.
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Jan 29, 2019 06:29
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One thing that comes to mind with Becky snapping and starting her current "The Man" run is this promo from mid-2017. Retroactively, it feels like awesome foreshadowing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTWT4GnBfXk "...I don't know what to do..."
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Jan 29, 2019 07:09
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two people who have done absolutely nothing wrong Becky, Bryan, and Ambrose should run the company
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Oh yeah that Becky promo to Bryan was loving awesome. I thought it was leading to something (it wasn't) but now here we are and life is good and Becky owns.
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Halloween Jack posted:I've never understood giving a wrestler a celebrity gimmick when people know that they haven't actually released any music. I've seen people say online that Russo was really gunning for this at one point, including offering to pay for Tank Abbott to have singing lessons! I don't know if it's true, but I'm happier believing that it is.
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There was a long slow burn with Becky that probably goes back to her main roster call up. But to me Money In The Bank 2018 was. Listen to the crowd reaction for her last grab at the briefcase and a out of position taking forever to tip the ladder over. Fans were clearly sick of Becky being a put over person and a fool. To Becky and WWE management it was MITB 2018 according to interviews Becky gave.
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Was Jim Duggan a more...."legit" wrestler once upon a time and he just morphed into a cartoon character due to age and convenience paychecks? Also, looking up his age, he was only 40 in the 90s. Some wrestlers like him and Hogan and Piper were over the hill and through by their 40s. Others are going into their 50s.
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NikkolasKing posted:Was Jim Duggan a more...."legit" wrestler once upon a time and he just morphed into a cartoon character due to age and convenience paychecks? Duggan never held a belt in wwf. maybe earlier in his career he was like a "big deal" guy somewhere but he was always a midcard cartoon guy in the mainstream.
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He was a very legit scholastic wrestler and athlete, but not every good amateur wrestler is a good performer. I don't recall Duggan ever being good. At his best he could brawl and have a good match with someone much better than him. You'd think with his size he could at least take a hot tag and clean house, but he's slow as molasses in every tag match I've ever seen him in, even back in Texas and Georgia.
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NikkolasKing posted:Was Jim Duggan a more...."legit" wrestler once upon a time and he just morphed into a cartoon character due to age and convenience paychecks? He was a top guy in Mid South/UWF, where he wrestled from 82 to 87 and feuded with guys like Butch Reed and Ted Dibiase.
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NikkolasKing posted:Was Jim Duggan a more...."legit" wrestler once upon a time and he just morphed into a cartoon character due to age and convenience paychecks? More of a brawler, but he was a big deal in Mid-South/UWF. Almost like Dean Ambrose. (Part of a trio, "The Rat Pack" with Ted DiBiase and Matt Bourne, then split with and became a popular face, including winning the UWF/PWI 50,000 Dollar tournament).
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Was he just a tough guy brawler before he came to WWF or did he also portray his character as one IQ point above Eugene in UWF/Mid South?
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Tato posted:Was he just a tough guy brawler before he came to WWF or did he also portray his character as one IQ point above Eugene in UWF/Mid South? No, he was a tough guy brawler rather than an imbecile.
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