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Wheeee
Mar 11, 2001

When a tree grows, it is soft and pliable. But when it's dry and hard, it dies.

Hardness and strength are death's companions. Flexibility and softness are the embodiment of life.

That which has become hard shall not triumph.

if i wanted to listen to a rich liberal's lovely takes i'd watch Maddow since at least she doesn't look like she's about to try selling me life insurance

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fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012

Pope Guilty posted:

Has Cenk repudiated Armenian genocide denialism yet?

He did a while back yes.

Screaming Idiot
Nov 26, 2007

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BEATS SELLING MERKINS.
What do we think of Stephen Colbert and John Oliver? I listen to 'em for noise while I do other stuff and they sometimes cover stuff I missed in the news, and Oliver in particular shares information about things I'd never even considered or heard about, but neither of them seem particularly authentic.

Colbert is especially bad, since he'll spend one monologue tearing into [insert criminal rear end in a top hat from Trump administration here], and then invite them onto his show and gobble their knob the entire night. I also hate his celebrity guests, and if I had the ability to I'd have Youtube just ignore the guest segments since they never have anything worthwhile to say beyond "GO SEE THIS MARVEL MOVIE, YOU'RE NOT TIRED OF THOSE YET, RIGHT?" and "I'LL BE PERFORMING AT THE FUCKERSUCK THEATER IN CHODECHUNK NEW YORK, TICKETS ARE AVAILABLE NOW" and "BUY MY BOOK I WORKED FOR TRUMP BECAUSE I'M A oval office, BUT I THINK HE'S BAD NOW, SOON TO BE AVAILABLE IN YOUR LOCAL LIBRARY'S REFUSE BIN."

Are there any good, semi-reliable political commenters with a sense of humor out there beyond Hbomberguy and Shaun?

Reclines Obesily
Jul 24, 2000



Hey Moona!
Slippery Tilde
why do you think hasan piker wants socialism so bad? cenk made him work for below minimum wage atTYT mines when he was younger

i assume theyre better these days, with the whole Justice Democrat stuff and all

Reclines Obesily
Jul 24, 2000



Hey Moona!
Slippery Tilde
i dont mind colbert cause his monologues where he rips into republicans are the only thing of his people watch on youtube and it gets 7 million views a day

and he has AOC on

Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004

Azathoth posted:

Cenk has gone from a GWB conservative to a Bernie progressive over the course of the last 15 years and has a ton of baggage from that transition. At a minimum, he held some really repugnant views and wrote a bunch of heinous poo poo up as late as his early 30s, before slowly drifting left over the course of a decade.

A lot of the hate comes from folks who don't see his change in politics as genuine, or perhaps more accurately, see both his early conservatism and later progressivism as stances taken for personal gain, rather than out of any personal belief.

I don't have a particular opinion on whether his political change is genuine. Even before I knew about his past, he gave off a real grifter vibe, and I've been generally wary of him ever since.

I gotta say, I've been listening to TYT since 2009, and Cenk's integrity has never been something that's been in question (including from his critics. the most questionable issue being the Armenian Genocide that many of his detractors bring up constantly). As far as I can tell, he's been remarkably consistent throughout this entire time and nearly every position he's taken makes sense given what he's espoused in the past (minus when he was an actual Republican of course).


Jimmy Dore on the other hand, seems more likely to be grifter (or at the very least, an incredibly stupid, stupid person) from what I've seen in the past few years. He even defended the MAGA kids recently.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

I feel like Trump did to Colbert what 9/11 did to Dennis Miller.

Screaming Idiot
Nov 26, 2007

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Yeah, but Colbert's also pretty gotdang wishy-washy. When the guillotines get busted out, I will demand he takes his place when the time comes.

But in deference to his politics, we'll only cut his head half-way off.

Screaming Idiot
Nov 26, 2007

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BEATS SELLING MERKINS.
Calling Trump's mouth "Putin's Cock-Holster" was pretty wonderful though, not gonna lie.

coathat
May 21, 2007

Screaming Idiot posted:

Calling Trump's mouth "Putin's Cock-Holster" was pretty wonderful though, not gonna lie.

Because they’re gay!!! Lol!!!!

cumshitter
Sep 27, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
i havent watched a lot of colbert but given the constraints of a late night show monologue i think he at least uses it to remind people of news stories they would have otherwise missed

still nowhere good as the colbert report

Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004

Colbert's good people, imo. He had this brief period when he moved to CBS early on where the higher ups probably told him to use kid gloves on the Republicans. A lot of people (including myself) were a bit turned off, and after a while, and as the day's got closer to Trump being in the White House, he got some of his previous mojo back. That's also when his show became way more popular.

ekuNNN
Nov 27, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
I dont like TYT because they all seem like insufferably smug liberals like Maddow, and also their show is named after a group of genocidal nationalists.

Screaming Idiot
Nov 26, 2007

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BEATS SELLING MERKINS.

coathat posted:

Because they’re gay!!! Lol!!!!

No, because Putin is a user. Putin doesn't care about male or female, willing or non. He wants only to exert power.

Trump, however, is desperate for power. He, like Putin, is a user, but he will willingly, gleefully submit to anyone so long as they pay him lip-service and allow him the image, the delusion of power.

They're not gay. That would be an improvement, because it would show that despite their horribleness they were human enough to feel something for one another, whether it be love or even base, naked, animal lust. But they're not gay -- they're a pair of sociopaths, one dominant and cruel, the other submissive and cruel and incompetent.

It's not a relationship between lovers. It's a pimp and his whore.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Screaming Idiot posted:

No, because Putin is a user. Putin doesn't care about male or female, willing or non. He wants only to exert power.

Trump, however, is desperate for power. He, like Putin, is a user, but he will willingly, gleefully submit to anyone so long as they pay him lip-service and allow him the image, the delusion of power.

They're not gay. That would be an improvement, because it would show that despite their horribleness they were human enough to feel something for one another, whether it be love or even base, naked, animal lust. But they're not gay -- they're a pair of sociopaths, one dominant and cruel, the other submissive and cruel and incompetent.

It's not a relationship between lovers. It's a pimp and his whore.

When Colbert says it he means to insult Trump by saying he takes the role of a woman, which is humiliating and shameful because women are disgusting in playing a receptive role in the sexual act. Its not a great way to criticize Trump because it reinforces harmful ideas that a lot of people believe—even fabian socialists who would call themselves feminists and GLBTQ allies.

Reclines Obesily
Jul 24, 2000



Hey Moona!
Slippery Tilde
kimmel is the biggest moron for getting his rear end kicked by ted cruz in a basketball game

Reclines Obesily
Jul 24, 2000



Hey Moona!
Slippery Tilde
havnt seen much of him but seth myers pops up in my YouTube recommendations alot, he seems to also be hugely popular and rips on trump too

Screaming Idiot
Nov 26, 2007

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Antifa Turkeesian posted:

When Colbert says it he means to insult Trump by saying he takes the role of a woman, which is humiliating and shameful because women are disgusting in playing a receptive role in the sexual act. Its not a great way to criticize Trump because it reinforces harmful ideas that a lot of people believe—even fabian socialists who would call themselves feminists and GLBTQ allies.

I never got that take myself, though I can see how some would see it that way. I thought of it less of Trump taking a feminine roll and more of a submissive one, which is not inherently feminine. He debases himself in his own eyes by submitting to a greater force, then hypocritically turns his derision towards others for committing the same "sin" all the while denying that he performed it himself.

Mostly I thought the comment was funny because it pissed Trump off, and anything that angers the pissbaby can't be all bad.

SunAndSpring
Dec 4, 2013
I really don't get why TYT just doesn't ditch the name and rename to anything else.

Screaming Idiot
Nov 26, 2007

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Reclines Obesily posted:

havnt seen much of him but seth myers pops up in my YouTube recommendations alot, he seems to also be hugely popular and rips on trump too

Seth's okay too, but a lot of his jokes are done better by Colbert. I imagine Seth scrolls through Colbert's monologues and occasionally mutters, "Steve, really? Couldn't let me have that one? Really? Really?"

Weaponized Autism
Mar 26, 2006

All aboard the Gravy train!
Hair Elf
i really liked Colbert during the Daily Show/ Colbert Report years. he's softened since taking over a late night show but I thought people didnt like him for being a Wonderful Co shill?

Oliver seems okay.

Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004

Reclines Obesily posted:

havnt seen much of him but seth myers pops up in my YouTube recommendations alot, he seems to also be hugely popular and rips on trump too

Meyers is probably the most underrated of the bunch. He has some really great segments and rips on Trump HARD.

I remember when he first started off, his subscriber count was in the 200-300k range. Now it's over 2.5 million and he's gotten substantially more subscribers than even Bill Maher.

snoremac
Jul 27, 2012

I LOVE SEEING DEAD BABIES ON 𝕏, THE EVERYTHING APP. IT'S WORTH IT FOR THE FOLLOWING TAB.
Colbert shills for pistachio oligarchs who hoard California's water supply. He lends them a progressive veneer when they're the blight of the earth.

As someone who watched The Colbert Report a lot when I thought TV shows mattered I've been disappointed by what he's become as an entertainer. That show was funnier than all the other Daily Show shows.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 23 days!)

Late Night shows are all just loving awful. The Eric Andre Show ruined talk shows for me the same way CHUDs think big dicks ruin vaginas.

Screaming Idiot
Nov 26, 2007

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BEATS SELLING MERKINS.

Mr Interweb posted:

Meyers is probably the most underrated of the bunch. He has some really great segments and rips on Trump HARD.

I remember when he first started off, his subscriber count was in the 200-300k range. Now it's over 2.5 million and he's gotten substantially more subscribers than even Bill Maher.

Bill Maher is an unfunny bigot who's about as left-wing as Anne Coulter.

Spergin Morlock
Aug 8, 2009

SunAndSpring posted:

I really don't get why TYT just doesn't ditch the name and rename to anything else.

it seems like its almost time for them to be TMAT (the middle aged turks)

turn off the TV
Aug 4, 2010

moderately annoying

Screaming Idiot posted:

Calling Trump's mouth "Putin's Cock-Holster" was pretty wonderful though, not gonna lie.

Arguably the most cringy moment in 2018 television.

SirSamVimes
Jul 21, 2008

~* Challenge *~


Screaming Idiot posted:

What do we think of Stephen Colbert and John Oliver? I listen to 'em for noise while I do other stuff and they sometimes cover stuff I missed in the news, and Oliver in particular shares information about things I'd never even considered or heard about, but neither of them seem particularly authentic.

Colbert is especially bad, since he'll spend one monologue tearing into [insert criminal rear end in a top hat from Trump administration here], and then invite them onto his show and gobble their knob the entire night. I also hate his celebrity guests, and if I had the ability to I'd have Youtube just ignore the guest segments since they never have anything worthwhile to say beyond "GO SEE THIS MARVEL MOVIE, YOU'RE NOT TIRED OF THOSE YET, RIGHT?" and "I'LL BE PERFORMING AT THE FUCKERSUCK THEATER IN CHODECHUNK NEW YORK, TICKETS ARE AVAILABLE NOW" and "BUY MY BOOK I WORKED FOR TRUMP BECAUSE I'M A oval office, BUT I THINK HE'S BAD NOW, SOON TO BE AVAILABLE IN YOUR LOCAL LIBRARY'S REFUSE BIN."

Are there any good, semi-reliable political commenters with a sense of humor out there beyond Hbomberguy and Shaun?

Contrapoints makes good YouTube videos

MysticalMachineGun
Apr 5, 2005

turn off the TV posted:

Arguably the most cringy moment in 2018 television.

Seriously, just make it so Trump is under Putin's foot instead and you get the same message with no homophobic undertones

I loved the Colbert Report too. Was it true that some chuds took it at face value instead of as a clear parody?

Smirking_Serpent
Aug 27, 2009

MysticalMachineGun posted:

Seriously, just make it so Trump is under Putin's foot instead and you get the same message with no homophobic undertones

I loved the Colbert Report too. Was it true that some chuds took it at face value instead of as a clear parody?

i think there were some chuds that probably thought it was serious. I think there definitely were some conservatives (Bill O'Reilly) who were flattered and tried to roll with the punches.

Kit Walker
Jul 10, 2010
"The Man Who Cannot Deadlift"

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Late Night shows are all just loving awful. The Eric Andre Show ruined talk shows for me the same way CHUDs think big dicks ruin vaginas.

gently caress yeah

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Late Night shows are all just loving awful. The Eric Andre Show ruined talk shows for me the same way CHUDs think big dicks ruin vaginas.

That show was perfect. Every time I watched it he just kept upping the ante.

Jollity Farm
Apr 23, 2010

Trump's mouth is actually Putin's toilet. Piers Morgan's mouth is Donald Trump's toilet - he made sure we all saw the picture.

snoremac
Jul 27, 2012

I LOVE SEEING DEAD BABIES ON 𝕏, THE EVERYTHING APP. IT'S WORTH IT FOR THE FOLLOWING TAB.
Piers Morgan got triggered on TV because someone called Winston Churchill a white supremacist and then he got triggered by Limmy:
https://twitter.com/DaftLimmy/status/1090303770720915457

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Lol Churchill was racist as poo poo and basically sucked so bad at everything he got fired every time, but he was like SUPER racist so they made him PM

Grand Prize Winner
Feb 19, 2007


what britain needed in ww2 was a man so racist he considered germans non-white and by god that's who they got

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
this website was based in killeen, texas of all places, according to the SPLC's "hatemap." that's a military town in proximity to fort hood. kinda random:

https://twitter.com/Hatewatch/status/1090293695155449856

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Grand Prize Winner posted:

what britain needed in ww2 was a man so racist he considered germans non-white and by god that's who they got

Lmao

Juul-Whip
Mar 10, 2008

MysticalMachineGun posted:

Seriously, just make it so Trump is under Putin's foot instead and you get the same message with no homophobic undertones

but as soon as you take out the homophobia, the joke stops being funny :saddowns:

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Late Night shows are all just loving awful. The Eric Andre Show ruined talk shows for me the same way CHUDs think big dicks ruin vaginas.
AOC went on a bunch of them and now every AOC page on Facebook has seen an influx of clueless libs

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MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos

MysticalMachineGun posted:

Seriously, just make it so Trump is under Putin's foot instead and you get the same message with no homophobic undertones

I loved the Colbert Report too. Was it true that some chuds took it at face value instead of as a clear parody?

It's only homophobic if black israelites say it

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