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| Joe "the liberal who fights busing" Biden |
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27 | 1.40% |
| Bernie "please don't die" Sanders |
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1017 | 52.69% |
| Cory "charter schools" Booker |
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12 | 0.62% |
| Kirsten "wall street" Gillibrand |
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24 | 1.24% |
| Kamala "truancy queen" Harris |
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59 | 3.06% |
| Julian "who?" Castro |
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7 | 0.36% |
| Tulsi "gay panic" Gabbard |
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25 | 1.30% |
| Michael "crimes crimes crimes" Avenatti |
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22 | 1.14% |
| Sherrod "discount bernie" Brown |
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21 | 1.09% |
| Amy "horrible boss" Klobuchar |
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12 | 0.62% |
| Tammy "stands for america" Duckworth |
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48 | 2.49% |
| Beto "whataburger" O'Rourke |
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32 | 1.66% |
| Elizabeth "instagram beer" Warren |
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284 | 14.72% |
| Tom "impeach please" Steyer |
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4 | 0.21% |
| Michael "soda is the devil" Bloomberg |
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9 | 0.47% |
| Joseph Stalin |
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287 | 14.87% |
| Howard "coffee republican" Schultz |
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10 | 0.52% |
Jay "nobody cares about climate change  " Inslee |
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13 | 0.67% |
| Pete "gently caress the homeless" Butt Man |
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17 | 0.88% |
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I don't think "we're going to get rid of all private insurance" is good messaging. It's very easy to demagogue that.
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Jan 30, 2019 03:09
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Office Pig posted:https://twitter.com/dylanlscott/status/1090339377815920642?s=19 Welp... looks like public option Medicare For All is back on the menu, boys mcmagic posted:I don't think "we're going to get rid of all private insurance" is good messaging. It's very easy to demagogue that. Yeah, it was a surprising thing to hear a politician say... which is why I liked it.
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Jan 30, 2019 03:14
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mcmagic posted:I don't think "we're going to get rid of all private insurance" is good messaging. It's very easy to demagogue that. I live in Ontario and private insurers exist here despite having universal healthcare. They cover things like dental, long-term disability, prescription drugs, etc. Private insurers will exist, but they will get a lot smaller.
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Jan 30, 2019 03:17
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Chilichimp posted:Oh, also Biden has some creepy metoo demons, like... several moments where he is on camera for photo ops inappropriately touching women and girl. I've yet to see this mentioned on any dem sites or donut twitter so I'm looking forward to seeing whether it's brought up by any dem opponents if biden runs, or just sits like a stale dog turd till the GOP runs videos and gifs 24/7 of biden mauling preteens.
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Jan 30, 2019 03:21
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Jan 30, 2019 03:22
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Office Pig posted:https://twitter.com/dylanlscott/status/1090339377815920642?s=19 medicare for some, if no private insurers exist in a market: She was also a co-sponsor on a bill called "Medicare X," from Sens. Michael Bennet and Tim Kaine, which would create a public insurance option on the Affordable Care Act exchanges, along side the private insurance plans. The goal would be to give Americans more choices when buying Obamacare coverage, particularly in areas where few carriers participate.
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Jan 30, 2019 03:24
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mcmagic posted:I don't think "we're going to get rid of all private insurance" is good messaging. It's very easy to demagogue that. you and durbin can take a hike Illinois Sen. Dick Durbin, the chamber's second-ranked Democrat, expressed some concern Tuesday over the prospect of wiping out private health insurers. "I don't want to guess what (Harris is) thinking but that is a massive part of the American economy. There is a system in place for funding it," Durbin said. "It would take a mighty transition to move from where we are to that."
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Jan 30, 2019 03:25
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I wonder if private insurance companies rank higher or lower than members of congress these days. I'd guess about even. eta: in public approval, I mean. Willa Rogers fucked around with this message at 03:28 on Jan 30, 2019 |
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Jan 30, 2019 03:26
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Willa Rogers posted:I wonder if private insurance companies rank higher or lower than members of congress these days. I'd guess about even. Congress can barely bring themselves to even discuss a ban on loan sharks and payday lenders, imagine the conniptions they'd throw if we tried to eliminate private insurance. Which is to say, this is an extremely good idea and we should do it post-haste.
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Jan 30, 2019 03:34
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Durbin's essentially making the argument that since the federal government is now shoveling hundreds of billions of dollars to private insurers in subsidies for the ACA and medicaid/medicare administration we can't let the industry drown without those government subsidies.
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Jan 30, 2019 03:39
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Kamala Harris could say M4A is her #1 top priority and would be the first thing she pursues in office all the way up till election day and I still wouldn't buy it. She's your typical run of mill neoliberal democrat at heart(and a cop) thats only saying things progressives like to hear because she recognizes Bernie Sander popularized it so much in 2016. Does anyone honestly think corporate media would be swooning so hard over a real progressive as they're doing right now with Harris? gently caress no. Wall Street just said that Kamala Harris is one of the candidates they wouldn't mind having while saying Sanders and Warren are big no-nos.
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Jan 30, 2019 04:03
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SKULL.GIF posted:It's still January. only 600 more days of this poo poo, i say, sobbing
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Jan 30, 2019 04:14
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also hashtag gabbard2020 is going very well https://www.politico.com/story/2019/01/29/tulsi-gabbard-2020-election-1134055 quote:Tulsi Gabbard’s presidential campaign hasn’t officially launched yet but it’s already melting down.
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Jan 30, 2019 04:15
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Gresh posted:Kamala Harris could say M4A is her #1 top priority and would be the first thing she pursues in office all the way up till election day and I still wouldn't buy it. She's your typical run of mill neoliberal democrat at heart(and a cop) thats only saying things progressives like to hear because she recognizes Bernie Sander popularized it so much in 2016. Does anyone honestly think corporate media would be swooning so hard over a real progressive as they're doing right now with Harris? gently caress no. Wall Street just said that Kamala Harris is one of the candidates they wouldn't mind having while saying Sanders and Warren are big no-nos. Nobody mistakes Harris for a progressive, but it's a good sign that actual progressives have made a noticeable dent in the Overton window. Craig K posted:only 600 more days of this poo poo, i say, sobbing Earlier every single cycle. By 2032 I expect we'll have candidates declaring for their run in 2040.
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Jan 30, 2019 04:19
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It's amazing that we're already seeing a resurgence of the same Dem rhetoric that sank 2015. A bunch of idiots who never learn want me to trust them? Well, I guess it's not their fault they don't stand for anything. It's all those damned Russian bots, you racist.
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Jan 30, 2019 04:20
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"We gotta keep all these people who are employed by a parasitic monolith at work, guys."
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Jan 30, 2019 04:24
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Gresh posted:Kamala Harris could say M4A is her #1 top priority and would be the first thing she pursues in office all the way up till election day and I still wouldn't buy it. She's your typical run of mill neoliberal democrat at heart(and a cop) thats only saying things progressives like to hear because she recognizes Bernie Sander popularized it so much in 2016. Does anyone honestly think corporate media would be swooning so hard over a real progressive as they're doing right now with Harris? gently caress no. Wall Street just said that Kamala Harris is one of the candidates they wouldn't mind having while saying Sanders and Warren are big no-nos. the wall street article basically was "which plausible candidates have not come out with a wealth tax yet" it's not a very good metric or rather, it's a metric that adds no extra value
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Jan 30, 2019 04:39
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https://twitter.com/ShutUpAndrosky/status/1090453684889088001
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Jan 30, 2019 05:20
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Is Harris endorsed by Clinton or something?
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Jan 30, 2019 05:30
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Ages back people were pretty sure that Harris is Clinton's anointed successor/surrogate for 2020, and she has a lot of the same staff, as their performance is clearly demonstrating.
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Jan 30, 2019 05:34
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harris might also be a stalking horse for hillary in case harris' campaign flops
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Jan 30, 2019 05:35
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Tab8715 posted:Is Harris endorsed by Clinton or something? iirc a couple weeks after Clinton lost Harris was flown out to Martha's Vineyard to meet with Clinton's top donors.
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Jan 30, 2019 05:42
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Gripweed posted:iirc a couple weeks after Clinton lost Harris was flown out to Martha's Vineyard to meet with Clinton's top donors. Yup! https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jul/24/democratic-donors-kamala-harris-rising-star-hamptons
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Jan 30, 2019 05:46
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Tab8715 posted:Is Harris endorsed by Clinton or something? 1. yes 2. more importantly, clinton's chief strategists are working for Harris now. so if any parts of this song and dance feel painfully familiar, well, good news, it's not exclusively because you've been poisoned by being online for the last three years.
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Jan 30, 2019 06:38
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kamala harris pushing the political capital lie is just proof positive that she will not push hard for medicare for all
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Jan 30, 2019 09:28
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Condiv posted:kamala harris pushing the political capital lie is just proof positive that she will not push hard for medicare for all That's not true, she'll encourage people with the stick at her disposal, which would be...*checks notes* bringing back the individual mandate?
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Jan 30, 2019 09:51
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TBH I'm of the opinion that Dental and Eyecare should just be free. Like, the state covers it, because it's pretty cheap and also extremely important to your ability to function.Yeowch!!! My Balls!!! posted:1. yes I mean if Harris doesn't want to win she could just not run instead of hiring Clinton's strategists.
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Jan 30, 2019 11:13
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Grapplejack posted:I mean if Harris doesn't want to win she could just not run instead of hiring Clinton's strategists. Well, better to win the primary and lose the election then not to win at all, I always say!
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Jan 30, 2019 11:38
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Shockingly Hillary Clinton is not going to run for President this cycle, but the Clintons will always want to be a power in the Democratic party. Harris is almost certainly their preferred candidate even if neither of them ever endorses her, same way they ran Wesley Clark in '04.
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Jan 30, 2019 13:57
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Harris' walkback on her "abolish insurance" comments really makes her a bland corporatist candidate in every conceivable way. Whatcha got for me, Warren? Tell me more about your tax plan.
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Jan 30, 2019 14:25
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So I'm trying to find an answer but there's too much noise, but did anyone from Harris truancy thing ever actually go to jail? People keep calling it a school to prison pipeline but I'm having trouble finding someone who actually was imprisoned (it do know people were charged with crimes which is bad enough even if those charges were dropped, I don't believe intimidation is an ethical enforcement tool for School attendance). Am I correct that no one ever actually went to jail?
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Jan 30, 2019 14:37
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Tab8715 posted:EDIT It's way too subjective to have something like that. Just look at how much mine differs from yours.
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Jan 30, 2019 14:43
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AlBorlantern Corps posted:So I'm trying to find an answer but there's too much noise, but did anyone from Harris truancy thing ever actually go to jail? People keep calling it a school to prison pipeline but I'm having trouble finding someone who actually was imprisoned (it do know people were charged with crimes which is bad enough even if those charges were dropped, I don't believe intimidation is an ethical enforcement tool for School attendance). Am I correct that no one ever actually went to jail? 180 loving days. https://youtu.be/p7eg8AhRSgU gohmak fucked around with this message at 14:49 on Jan 30, 2019 |
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Jan 30, 2019 14:45
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AlBorlantern Corps posted:So I'm trying to find an answer but there's too much noise, but did anyone from Harris truancy thing ever actually go to jail? People keep calling it a school to prison pipeline but I'm having trouble finding someone who actually was imprisoned (it do know people were charged with crimes which is bad enough even if those charges were dropped, I don't believe intimidation is an ethical enforcement tool for School attendance). Am I correct that no one ever actually went to jail? Not that I've been able to find. Kings county is in the south valley between LA and SF, so this would have been under the Kings County district attorney, not Kamala Harris, who was the DA for San Francisco. It might be getting glossed over here, but this is California law, not something Kamala Harris was doing as some personal crusade. Again, I've not found a case where a San Francisco parent served jail time. I don't think she was pursuing truancy cases as the AG of California. Chilichimp fucked around with this message at 14:52 on Jan 30, 2019 |
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Jan 30, 2019 14:45
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Chilichimp posted:2 people went to jail after she had moved on to state AG. How many poor people were hit with fines? How many poor people were coerced to pay for doctors notes to justify common illness?
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Jan 30, 2019 14:50
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gohmak posted:How many poor people were hit with fines? How many poor people were coerced to pay for doctors notes to justify common illness? Across California or the entire country? poo poo like that is ~the norm~ and we should be trying to change that... by passing M4A, doing away with private insurance, and increasing school district engagement with parents. edit: also, I changed my post, because that video still doesn't show Kamala Harris locked anyone up for Truancy.
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Jan 30, 2019 14:56
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In the particular case the prosecutor was a republican.
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Jan 30, 2019 15:04
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The way the police state works is that you make so much poo poo that poor and/or minority people are likely forced to do at some point illegal that you can always get them for something. The truancy thing is just one especially hosed up piece of the puzzle, and all this just asking questions about whether somebody was thrown in the slammer for this particular crime is missing the point by a country mile. What's important is that Harris gleefully supported this system, and that should be enough to disqualify anyone from holding office.
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Jan 30, 2019 15:04
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Chilichimp posted:oh man. gently caress.... she uh... said some things about Uber and Airbnb in a speech anecdote. SHE'S SO BAD YOU GUYS... Your stanning for a cop is the comedy, friend
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Jan 30, 2019 15:11
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So gleefully supporting this system because a county level elected Republican DA that she had no control over charged someone who was already going to jail for 2 years for theft with a concurrent sentence. She had very little to do with this particular case in any form.
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