Milotic posted:

Battleforged requirements: For matched play In each Detachment your army must share at least two faction keywords. It used to be one, but then they changed it. Different detachments require different number of unit types. The rule book is well worth having, but BattleScribe is free if not.

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BATTLE BROTHERS
All of the units in each Detachment in your Battle-forged army must have at least one Faction keyword in common. In addition, this keyword cannot be Chaos, Imperium, Aeldari, Ynnari or Tyranids, unless the Detachment in question is a Fortification Network. This has no effect on your Army Faction

Cooked Auto posted:

There is indeed a 40k RPG thread.

Zark the Damned posted:

This is wrong. The actual rule as per the big FAQ is:


The way you describe it makes it impossible for some armies to be battleforged as they only have a single 'overall' Faction keyword (i.e. one not specific to a chapter / regiment / clan / dynasty / etc.)

It should also be noted that the rule only affects Matched Play, in Narrative and Open play you can ignore the additional requirements above and still be Battleforged.

Lincoln posted:

Pre-8th Ork Big Gunz (Lobba, Zzap Gun, etc) are listed in the Ranged Weapon tables, but aren't mentioned anywhere else in the codex, as far as I can see. Are they considered to be "Mek Gunz", alongside the Bubblechukka, etc?

Bucnasti posted:

"We hate money, let's turn down a chance to make lots for zero effort." Said no corporation ever.

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Cult of the Four-Armed Emperor: Subterranean Ambushers (+1 to advance and charge in first battle round or on first turn they appear)
Pauper Princes: Devoted Zealots (re-roll hits for attacks made with melee weapons when they charge, are charged or HI)
The Hivecult: Disciplined Militants (half models that flee morale, can shoot when they fall back but at -1 to hit)
The Bladed Cog: Cyborgised Hybrids (6++ or improve ++ by 1. Infantry don't suffer penalty to hit when moving and firing Heavy)
The Rusted Claw: Nomadic Survivalists (+1 to save if AP is 0 or -1. Biker models don't suffer penalty for moving and shooting Heavy or for advancing and shooting Assault)
The Twisted Helix: Experimental Subjects (+1 strength and +2 to advance)

Acolytes, neophytes and brood brothers are troops
Bikes are T4 2Wwith autopistol and blasting charges. 1 quad for every 4 bikes, Quad also has heavy stubber. They're -1 to hit in shooting phase.
Quad can change for mining laser
The bikers have to take two weapons from the atalan weapons list, can't take same weapon twice
(Autogun, autopistol, bolt pistol, cultist knife, demo charge, grenade launcher (1 in 4), improvised weapon, power axe (leader only), power hammer (leader only), power pick, shotgun)
Btw bikes are 10pts base + weapons (quad is 15)

Cult ambush is....
During deployment, set up a unit in CA. If Infantry or Biker you can set up in ambush OR underground. When underground, it can emerge at the end of any of your Movement phases. Set up a la DS. When set up in Ambush place a marker anywhere in your deployment zone. If you set up a Transport in ambush you must still say what's in it - one marker for transport and unit inside. Markers cant be shot etc. Measure from centre of the marker.
Now this is where it gets interesting
If you have 1st turn, you reveal all of your ambush markers at the start of your movement phase, one at a time, before moving units. Set model down within 1" of the marker, remove marker, place rest of unit wholly within 6" of that model and more than 9" from enemy models. Unit can move and shoot normally. but if it was a Transport, models that disembark cannot be set up within 9" of enemy. They don't count as moving when coming in from ambush, only if they move after.
If your opponent has the first turn, none of their units can be set up or end a move within 9" of a marker. At the end of your opponent's first movement phase, after they have set up all their unit from reinforcements, reveal all your ambush markers as described above before continuing the turn

For 1CP you can select 3 units that would be deployed via CA and instead put them underground (so basically you can set up units in your deployment zone and then say "feth this" and DS them anywhere if it suits)
for 1CP you can make your objectives secret, revealed only when you score them. That's cool
Nexos (map guy?) lets you select an ambush token you've deployed and move it anywhere in your deployment zone (12" away from enemy models). It's also got some CP regen ability
Roll a D6 when a CP is spent. If you spent it and there's a Primus and Nexos on the board, add 1. If your opponent spent it and there's a Clamavus and Nexos on the board, add 1. In either case, you get a CP on a 6+

Psychic.powers!
Mass Hypnosis - CV7 - Visible enemy unit within 18" can't fire overwatch, fights last in fight phase even if it charged and -1 to hit until your next psychic phase.
Mind Control - CV7 - Enemy model within 12" of psyker. Roll 3D6. If equal to or over Ld it can immediately shoot another enemy unit or make a single close combat attack against it. Can't attack self but can attack its own unit.
Psionic Blast - CV5 - Visible enemy unit within 18". 2D6 vs Ld. Lower = 1 MW, equal of higher = D3
Mental Onslaught - CV6 - Visible enemy within 18". Both players roll D6 and add Ld. If you score higher, model suffers 1 MW. Repeat this process until model is dead or you fail to wound it.
Psychic Stimulus - CV6 - Friendly unit within 18". Charge after advancing (though not after falling back) and always hit first even if they didn't charge.
Might From Beyond - CV7 - Friendly infantry or biker unit within 18". +1 S and A until next psychic phase.

CC points: Heavy improvised: 10, heavy power hammer: 16, Heavy rock drill: 17, power hammer: 4, power pick: 9, power sledgehammer: 0, power axe: 5, power maul: 4
Ridgerunner is M 14" T5 W8 Sv 4+ and comes with 2 heavy stubbers, heavy mining laser (can swap for missile launcher or heavy mortar) and flare launcher (can swap for survey augur or a spotter)
Gets a free 9" move at start of the game
Spotter increases range of its weapons by 6", augur ignores cover, flare launcher does the FNP and make bikers move faster thing
Default is 50 base + HML (25) + flares (5) so 80
Wow the locus is crazy (the bodyguard character)
2+ 2+ S4 T3 W4 A4 5+ with hypermorph tail (AP-1 D1 additional attack) and locus blades (Ap -3 D1 increase to D2 if it charged, was charged or performed HI). Does the usual bodyguard 'Absorb wound on 2+' thing. Subtracts enemy Ld by 1 within 6". Can HI 6" and can choose to move towards nearest enemy character rather than nearest enemy model, has 5++ and always fights first
Locus is 40pt elite
The Sanctus' sniper rifle causes a Perils if it wounds a psyker
Bike alphus
Alphus is 5W T4 5+ with -1 to hit in shooting, has a 36" heavy 1 S4 AP-2 D3 sniper rifle (additional MW on 6+ to wound). She selects a visible unit within 36" . Add +1 to hit rolls for friendly <Cult> units while they're within 6" of this model (or 12" if they're bikers).
Basically she markerlights gak
She picks a unit, everything cult nearby gets +1 to hit
Drill is interesting
Oh btw, to be clear, blips do not count as reserves
One per turn in their movement phase an infantry or biker unit with CA can move off the table if all models are on ground level and can move within 1" of the drill (can't do it the same turn it arrives as reinforcements). If a unit does this, remove them from the battlefield. At the end of the next movement phase, deep strike them
So basically, move up to within 1" of it and feth off for a turn, then pop up
And you can activate it if a model is on the piece at the end of your movement phase (and no enemy models are on it). D6 for every unit on ground level within 3" of the drill
D6 mortal wounds on a 6
Then roll a D6 again, adding 1 for every time the drill has been activated during the battle. <6 = Seismic Tremors (subtract 2" from charge rolls made within 12" of the model. Doesn't affect Fly. Not cumulative) 6+ = Seismic Quake (straight imaginary line 1mm in thickness from one battlefield edge to another that crosses the model. D6 for unit that the line crosses on ground level (not Fly). D3 MW on 4+ and movement is halved until next Movement phase.
Lol, the drill is 75pts

No Baneblade, etcs
Cult russ is standard BC, can be replaced
nova cannon, exterminator auto or vanquisher
without wargear which I cba to add up, acolytes 7pts (5-20), BB infantry squad 4pts (10), neophytes 5pts (10-20)
Heavy weapon teams in

xtothez posted:

Time to break out the Acolytes guys...

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Mind Control - CV7 - Enemy model within 12" of psyker. Roll 3D6. If equal to or over Ld it can immediately shoot another enemy unit or make a single close combat attack against it. Can't attack self but can attack its own unit.

xtothez posted:

Time to break out the Acolytes guys...

Mass Hypnosis - CV7 - Visible enemy unit within 18" can't fire overwatch, fights last in fight phase even if it charged and -1 to hit until your next psychic phase.

Maneck posted:

Designed just for the Tau.

PierreTheMime posted:

FtGG can still trigger for other nearby units; this power already existed in the Index. The only time FtGG can't work is if the assaulting unit has an ability that no unit can overwatch them, such as the Aeldari Banshee mask. It's still good though.

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Mass Hypnosis
Mass Hypnosis has a warp charge value of 7. If manifested, select a visible enemy
unit within 18" of the psyker. Until the start of your next Psychic phase, the target
cannot fire Overwatch, fights last in the Fight phase even if it charged, and must
subtract 1 from its hit rolls

food court bailiff posted:

...Does the new AdMech box require the Commanders KT expansion? It looks like it does but I'm having trouble finding confirmation.

Maneck posted:

The index version of the rule was:


I read the leaked text as working on each visible unit within 18". We'll have to see the actual wording - but you're probably right that it only works on a single targeted unit.

Maneck posted:

I read the leaked text as working on each visible unit within 18". We'll have to see the actual wording - but you're probably right that it only works on a single targeted unit.

Inspector_666 posted:

It comes with a commander, but you don't necessarily have to use him. You don't necessarily need the book, either, since his rules will be in the box rather than the book and I'm sure you can find the Commander specialism trees online.

food court bailiff posted:

Ehhh it's more a problem of nobody else in my local store really using Commanders (yet?). Plus that box doesn't even have any Skitarii Rangers, aka the Best AdMechs.

Inspector_666 posted:

Where'd this come from?

Failson posted:

Real stupid question: Do the Admech not have any transport options at all? ... I probably should have bought their book at some point.

Inspector_666 posted:

The only transport option is the Termite from Forge World. The rules for it are available on the store page, too.

Revelation 2-13 posted:

If the alphus +1 to hit markerlight also helps in melee (probably not?), that's real good news for aberrants standing next to a abominant.

Corrode posted:

Wait, why do people think GSC can deep strike on turn 1? Cult ambush from the blips isn't the same as deep strike.

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Cult ambush is....
During deployment, set up a unit in CA. If Infantry or Biker you can set up in ambush OR underground. When underground, it can emerge at the end of any of your Movement phases.

PierreTheMime posted:

PierreTheMime posted:

it can emerge at the end of any of your Movement phases.

Lizard Combatant posted:

Haven't tried it, but it looks like a pretty good suicide ram too.

Naramyth posted:

The thing is, all deep strikes are worded that way. Why wouldnt the FAQ not apply?

Inspector_666 posted:

Yeah, the actual Termite seems very good, it just comes with all of the usual FW caveats.

JIZZ DENOUEMENT posted:

A lot of those cult/chapter traits seem really good as do the T1 deep striking.

Are the guns for bikes good? Because T4 2W bikes for 10 pts seems good at first blush. Dark eldar reavers are like 17ish and Ork bikes are 14ish.

PierreTheMime posted:

It definitely depends on the wording. It would be in the theme of GSC if they could, but if not, okay.

Lizard Combatant posted:

Lack of canticles is a slight bummer, but not too bad. Pair of melta cutters seems to be the way to go yeah?