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Based on the alt-text of page 5-97 I believe that Alison is at one point going to die and then not die a la Koss.
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There Bias Two posted:Are there other things that have been edited in addition to this page? Yeah, I'm pretty sure almost every drawing of Alison in the vault fight has at least 200% more tanktop in tact than it used to be.
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Comrade Gorbash posted:OG bondage nun for comparison OC Bondage Nun Do Not Steel
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M_Gargantua posted:Yeah, I'm pretty sure almost every drawing of Alison in the vault fight has at least 200% more tanktop in tact than it used to be. Huh, yeah, the nip slip on page 114 is gone. Shrug
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Looks like there's some dialog changes sprinkled about too. https://killsixbilliondemons.com/comic/seeker-of-thrones-9-117/ Panel six is different and way better now imo.
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Rotten Red Rod posted:Although the new art hits a little less hard because it's less clear those are all nails in her skin and could just be studs in the leather, but there's only so much you can do without actually redrawing it. I kinda prefer the old one just because of this, but eh, no biggie.
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CAR CRASH CRACKERS posted:Looks like there's some dialog changes sprinkled about too. Aw I kind of liked "Let's try to kill each other again sometime." But it did feel weird when Allison clearly didn't have the capacity to say something that clever at that moment (at that amount of blood loss). MikeJF posted:I kinda prefer the old one just because of this, but eh, no biggie. Yeah, like I said, the old one was more effective at showing the extent of her self-mutilation but was incongruous with the previously established theme of the guild. But coming up with a new design that just could do that without looking like fetish gear (and still being a very mobile battle outfit) would require a lot more than a recolor which Abaddon clearly doesn't have time to do with so much on his plate. So the new one is fine. Honestly... Maybe LESS clothes would have worked. Just, like, a bra that looks even more damaging (without being sexy) and an even more heavy-duty chastity belt that's practically a diaper, and nothing else other than scars and nails.
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I cant believe that people read that entire sequence in the vault then wondered where this week came from
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Synthbuttrange posted:I cant believe that people read that entire sequence in the vault then wondered where this week came from no way it it was totally out of left field https://twitter.com/Orbitaldropkick/status/967261202865885184 KEEP YOUR GAY ROMANCES OUT OF MY uh, very gay-romance heavy COMIC Also, if the complaints are about the way she asks for it, they have a whole conversation about doing that: https://twitter.com/Orbitaldropkick/status/1026985825626730502 This sequence in particular is probably my favorite in all of KSBD. I love the way all 3 characters are drawn (Allison in particular), and there's a lot of not-previously-seen humanity (heh) from all 3 characters... Even White Chain!
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Those changes are good. In fact there was s only one change he’s ever made that I don’t like, and it’s removing “it’s hilarious” from Juggy’s dialogue when talking about a man spending his fleeting life on tea cups.
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Synthbuttrange posted:I love that first panel reaction to Cio's proposition. Haha yes, her proposition is the kind of dramatic moment that we see in media but never really see a realistic response to... Which turns out to be slightly shocked (and very charming) awkwardness.
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ConfusedUs posted:Those changes are good. I just posted about that on the last page, it's back.
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Speaking of tea, that tea set White Chain has had looks a lot like one from Mottom's big ol' tea storage room. Wonder if she nicked it from the flying palace while she was infiltrating it with Juggernaut Star. Well, maybe not nicked. Knowing White Chain, she probably left behind a bunch of coins as "payment" for it. Stealing is illegal after all.
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ConfusedUs posted:Those changes are good. If he moves Salomon David's nipples though I swear I'll
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The only moving Solomon David's nipples do is when he flexes his pecs.
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ok folks heres the new scripture: nobody is allowed to talk about this comic except the rhyming wax head
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Solomon David's nipples do not move through the world, the world moves around Solomon David's nipples. They are a fixed point in space, two tan holes pierced through the veil of ignorance. They speak of another universe, a brighter universe, one will will never see with our own eyes, for they would be poked out in an instant by the one hundred and eight sets of erect nipples that guard those yawning portals. And despite the risks, some day, I hope to assemble a contraption. Armor, sturdy enough to withstand their onslaught for even just a split-second, so that I can catch the slightest glimpse of the legendary place before I am impaled through my dick two-hundred and sixteen times for my insolence. Then, and only then, can I die happy.
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PMush Perfect posted:Solomon David's nipples do not move through the world, the world moves around Solomon David's nipples. They are a fixed point in space, two tan holes pierced through the veil of ignorance. They speak of another universe, a brighter universe, one will will never see with our own eyes, for they would be poked out in an instant by the one hundred and eight sets of erect nipples that guard those yawning portals. And despite the risks, some day, I hope to assemble a contraption. Armor, sturdy enough to withstand their onslaught for even just a split-second, so that I can catch the slightest glimpse of the legendary place before I am impaled through my dick two-hundred and sixteen times for my insolence. Then, and only then, can I die happy. 
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soldave wasnt the first bearer of the nipples, but jadis was stripped of her privilege and duty and also mobility after she attempted to enter the nipple dimension herself
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Solomon David is the only one allowed nipples in his realm. All men and women alike must go without. Infants are exclusively fed goat milk.
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Royalty is a continuous milking motion.
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Poor abbadon https://twitter.com/Orbitaldropkick/status/1090466451377541120
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He's stealing posts from here to post to Twitter. 
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It's not stealing if they're your own posts.
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You say that like we don't all take our best jokes and shitposts and retell them in new contexts.
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So I have no problem with Abaddon going back and polishing old pages. Arguably in favor of it - taking advantage of the nature of the medium, etc. But I'm curious what people think of it vis-à-vis the Star Wars Special Editions. Cloud City windows are just palette changes, etc.
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I just wish he kept links to the originals in the blurb below the comic for the ones he changes. Other than that, it's his story, he can do whatever he wants with it.
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let the man post his jokes. they're his jokes. I don't mind the changes, i can see why he made them and i'm cool with it. The nun one is a real improvement even if the original one wasn't bad. It just fits better with the tone and is less distracting from the scene, imho. I just hopes he doesn't edit it too much, because that's a great way to start second guessing yourself and that's not a good thing.
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Benson Cunningham posted:I just wish he kept links to the originals in the blurb below the comic for the ones he changes. Other than that, it's his story, he can do whatever he wants with it. John Egbert is out of control!
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CitizenKeen posted:So I have no problem with Abaddon going back and polishing old pages. Arguably in favor of it - taking advantage of the nature of the medium, etc. But I'm curious what people think of it vis-à-vis the Star Wars Special Editions. Cloud City windows are just palette changes, etc. The original Star Wars movies were very much a group effort - a lot of people other than Lucas were responsible for most of the story, characterization, direction, look, etc. He only directed the first one, and by all accounts his original script was pretty trash and needed a lot of reworking. So the changes made by Lucas are, in fact, flying in the face of the original art - the actual original creators are not involved, it's just Lucas unilaterally deciding what HE thinks it should have been, which, it can be argued (and shown with evidence, via the prequels) is a worse vision than the original. Not to mention the CG updates are jarring and clash with the original effects, and were quickly dated within a few years. KSBD is a singular persons' vision - it's his ideas, his work, etc. to the very core, and the changes are done in the same style and medium so they don't clash. In that respect, his changes to fit what he was originally going for - or to change the vision if he decides he didn't like the old one - are up to him. It's not without precedent either. Tolkien wrote The Hobbit before coming up with Lord of the Rings, and then completely rewrote sections of The Hobbit to make the ring's new context make sense. But no one thinks The Hobbit was compromised because of those changes (at least I hope not...). In contrast, many fans argue that things like Han shooting first and Jedi Rocks very much compromise the original work. As for the minor changes that Lucas made that arguably improve the Special Editions (or are at most benign), no one would probably care if it wasn't for the other egregious changes. It happens all the time and people barely notice. Benson Cunningham posted:I just wish he kept links to the originals in the blurb below the comic for the ones he changes. Other than that, it's his story, he can do whatever he wants with it. I agree, but gently caress, man, he's one person. Even a little thing like that can take a lot of time to do and it really has no benefit to him. They're all on Twitter if you want to archive them, thankfully.
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I am fine with changes getting made. The thing with a webcomic is that it doesn't pass through most typical editing processes, it goes straight from him to us whenever he blacks out coloring teacups and keels over. So what we see with him going back over to make minor changes is stuff that would have happened to most work during the normal publication or review process. It's only notable because we get to actually see it happening. I do think it would be neat to keep the original posted panels somewhere as kind of a behind-the-scenes experience, so that you could see what had originally happened and know why it was changed, but agreed that is it's own task and I'd rather he keeps making new pages than curating the presentation of the archive.
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Artists should have full control over their work. This is true regardless if the "fans" personally approve of these changes.
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Rotten Red Rod posted:The original Star Wars movies were very much a group effort - a lot of people other than Lucas were responsible for most of the story, characterization, direction, look, etc. He only directed the first one, and by all accounts his original script was pretty trash and needed a lot of reworking. So the changes made by Lucas are, in fact, flying in the face of the original art - the actual original creators are not involved, it's just Lucas unilaterally deciding what HE thinks it should have been, which, it can be argued (and shown with evidence, via the prequels) is a worse vision than the original. Not to mention the CG updates are jarring and clash with the original effects, and were quickly dated within a few years. This is a fun narrative that helps people rationalize their personal dislike of George Lucas but it has basically no bearing on reality or the mechanisms of how making a movie actually works, and largely derives from poo poo said by Gary Kurtz, a producer on the original star wars who got fired for nearly getting Empire Strikes Back canceled through mismanagement and more or less quit being a movie producer after he hosed up Thief and the Cobbler so badly.
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Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:This is a fun narrative that helps people rationalize their personal dislike of George Lucas but it has basically no bearing on reality or the mechanisms of how making a movie actually works, and largely derives from poo poo said by Gary Kurtz, a producer on the original star wars who got fired for nearly getting Empire Strikes Back canceled through mismanagement and more or less quit being a movie producer after he hosed up Thief and the Cobbler so badly. If you say so - I'm basing these conclusions mostly on the fact that the prequels, where Lucas had no one to tell him no, are total trash, as well as practically everything he's made that isn't non-prequel Star Wars since, well, Star Wars. I don't hate Lucas, I just pity him. (As much as I can pity a billionaire, anyway.) He's clearly lost his artistic touch and doesn't know how to get it back.
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I view what’s happening here sort of like the trend in anime where they release a watchable but perhaps not completely polished version for airing on tv, then fix it up for the dvd/Blu-ray release. He’s polishing it for the print release.
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Gunjin posted:I view what’s happening here sort of like the trend in anime where they release a watchable but perhaps not completely polished version for airing on tv, then fix it up for the dvd/Blu-ray release. He’s polishing it for the print release. Yeah this. It's really common for webcomics - in many where the art substantially improved since the comic's inception, they'll completely redraw the early chapters just for print, too. What's unique is that he's updating the online version with the changes as well.
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Shaddap and gawp your starepoppers at tha latesyest page tha lackwits
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Ahhh my Twitter alerts failed me! https://twitter.com/Orbitaldropkick/status/1090732597850845185 I'm kinda wondering about Devil sexual anatomy since we can clearly see Cio doesn't have nipples, but... Maybe I'm just better off not knowing. Rotten Red Rod fucked around with this message at 23:27 on Jan 30, 2019 |
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