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TheHan posted:Booster realizes that Wally's body is five days older than it should be through...RNA analysis? Implying that he's in some part involved in the mass slaughter of all these superheroes. Lol this rules
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I think my favorite thing is the backflips done to make zingers on the nine panel confessionals. Turns out the Commander Steel that was killed in Sanctuary was the one that died right before the Giffen/DeMatteis JLI started. And then last appeared during Blackest Night, which this posits was 'really' 'him'. And then he went away with the other zombies, but got resurrected off panel so that he's actually come back from the dead twice (as opposed to zero times as every pre-HiC comic would suggest) and therefore he's got a complex about dying and coming back over and over again, which Heroes in Crisis introduces as a character trait five issues after he's died. Also the Protector! The Protector was literally just a reskin of Robin because Batman (and related characters) were a licensing mess in the 1980s/early 1990s and Keebler wanted to do an anti-drug Teen Titans comic to give away so they swapped Robin out for Protector, whose tragic origin was his brother getting mixed up with drugs and being killed by drug dealers instead of trapeze artist parents and whatever. So he's back after literally not appearing in an "in-continuity" comic for thirty six years to make a 'lol I was actually on a lot of drugs, also I'm dead now' bit.
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ElNarez posted:Speaking of exactly that bullshit, today's Flash Annual #2 is really really good! Joshua Williamson is really great at mining that bit of superhero melodrama for all it's worth, while also doing some of the transition between Flash #50 and Young Justice #1, and also teasing the big bad things coming in 2019. Plus it's got Scott Kolins stretching himself and doing Mann and Gleason as well as himself in a way that's kinda nuts to look at. I get why people are pissed, really I do, but it's making for some pretty good comics. On the other hand, it was largely focused on Godspeed who is the worst Flash character ever.
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I'm way behind on The Flash (though read enough to know who Godspeed is, and I've seen Impulse in YJ) but would the issue work well just for a HiC tie-in? edit: Just read today's Heroes and I liked it quite a bit. The mystery is finally being propelled. Didn't mind the long speech since there was some pretty bangin' superhero poster art sprinkled in there. ee:  There’s a Space Cabbie story in Mysteries of Love in SpaceI liked the new Action Comics a lot, but it's funny how they're presenting secret societies being blown up as a mystery when the arc is literally called "Leviathan Rising." Not even a final page of Talia cackling. Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 20:59 on Jan 30, 2019 |
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Heroes confusion : Why does RNA measurement even apply to the Flashes I'm not really sure what there saying there.
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Jan 30, 2019 20:33
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Sinners Sandwich posted:Heroes confusion : Why does RNA measurement even apply to the Flashes I'm not really sure what there saying there. the molecules have decayed five days longer than they should have had that person died at the same as the others
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Jan 30, 2019 20:57
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ElNarez posted:the molecules have decayed five days longer than they should have had that person died at the same as the others
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Jan 30, 2019 21:15
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I mean it's carbon dating with more fancy bullshit science terms
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Jan 30, 2019 21:21
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Right, I was more pointing out that it's Fart Machine nonsense moreso than like "this body has been dead/decaying longer than the other ones", it's that the corpse literally comes from the future, which matters on a plot/mystery level but also is kind of hilarously nothing in terms of moving the mystery along five issues into a series.
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Jan 30, 2019 21:24
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I still don't know why DC greenlit the horrible trainwreck and awful idea that is Heroes in a Crisis.
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Jan 30, 2019 21:38
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When they first announced it none of this murder stuff was in it. They talked about it like an anthology.
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Jan 30, 2019 21:54
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Sinners Sandwich posted:When they first announced it none of this murder stuff was in it. They talked about it like an anthology. When they announced it they immediately drew Identity Crisis comparison, as if that was a favorable idea. They know what they're doing.
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Anyone been noticing how much James Tynion IV has been doing on Justice League? I think originally he was meant to be writing an issue every arc focusing on the bad guys, but with Drowned Earth, the Hawkworld storyline and the new Annual it seems like he’s doing the brunt of the writing work and Snyder’s just there as an overall plotter. Kind of like the Batman Eternal thing. I guess the arrangement is fine with Tynion, but I don’t think it’ll be remembered as a co-written series. E:The JL Annual has to be about the most impactful to it’s series of any Annual issue I can think of. Anyone who who assumed it skippable is gonna come back to the next numbered issue with the Source Wall destroyed, New Genesis and Apokolips vanished and DC’s new supreme being of creation chilling out in the Legion of Doom Darth Vader helmet base. Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 00:57 on Jan 31, 2019 |
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Jan 31, 2019 00:00
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ElNarez posted:the molecules have decayed five days longer than they should have had that person died at the same as the others How old is Wally supposed to be considering he was pulled forth out of the speed force?
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I'm at work rn and can't really yak but I just gotta say I'm real tickled that the cover of WW this week just flat-out depicts...well, "female-presenting nipples" pretty much just...right on there for all to see,  but I guess no one noticed because they were attached to a minotaur.
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Jan 31, 2019 00:49
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"Heroes with PTSD undergoing therapy" could have been a great series. "Convoluted, slow-moving murder mystery that takes place after all the therapy already happened" is not. Like, the whole "therapy retreat for superheroes" concept is nearly irrelevant to the end result, at least so far. It could have been Titans Tower or the Hall of Justice getting turned into a spree killing scene and most of the plot would flow exactly the same, with the exception of this weird false conflict of, "oh no, now the public will know that superheroes go to therapy". I feel like this being a PR crisis at all presumes a world of people who would be like, scandalised if they heard about a soldier or a cop in therapy, rather than shrugging and going, "yeah, that makes sense, seems like a stressful job".
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Android Blues posted:"Heroes with PTSD undergoing therapy" could have been a great series. "Convoluted, slow-moving murder mystery that takes place after all the therapy already happened" is not.
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Android Blues posted:"Heroes with PTSD undergoing therapy" could have been a great series. "Convoluted, slow-moving murder mystery that takes place after all the therapy already happened" is not. Yeah, that's a really weird and sort of disturbing undercurrent to this, that the world at large has a revulsion to therapy. Maybe that was true 25-30 years ago but now? What a bizarre supposition. It's really, I don't know... macho? It speaks to what feels like a real suspicion and skepticism of vulnerability-- or at least a belief that people's baseline reaction to vulnerability is suspicion and skepticism-- that is not flattering to King. Like-- I'd be more shocked and appalled to learn that superheoes didn't have therapists (and like, Doc Samson has been a concept-- and quite regularly presented as healthy and good-- for how long?). Superman's big stupid speech is only coherent in a world that's playing by an incoherent ruleset. It's a huge flaw in an already flaw-riddled story, but instead of being just dumb clunky plotting it misreads basic human empathy. It's a bad, bad look. I could extrapolate further based on his incoherent take on Arkham Asylum but I don't know, Arkham Asylum has always been a sloppy and deeply vexed concept imo. How Wonderful! fucked around with this message at 01:02 on Jan 31, 2019 |
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Nessus posted:Maybe that's gonna be the entire twist, a formal validation that It's Okay To Get Help. In which case I'm glad but how many stiffs do you need to communicate this concept? I mean, again, Superman has a 9-page speech in this issue that basically is just stating that outright.
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Nessus posted:Maybe that's gonna be the entire twist, a formal validation that It's Okay To Get Help. In which case I'm glad but how many stiffs do you need to communicate this concept? I feel like it'd be hard to stick that landing when some of the confessionals seem almost mocking and also everyone getting help was murdered.
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ElNarez posted:I mean, again, Superman has a 9-page speech in this issue that basically is just stating that outright.
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I think putting Batman in charge of an AI designed to help people get over trauma is a great idea because if there's anyone that's shown the ability to get over trauma it's good ol' Bats. Also E&C mentioning The Protector reminded me he existed so I wanted to see what he was talking about and searched out the panl on Twitter. https://twitter.com/Latin4Cookies/status/1090684150984704005 I know I rag on Tom King but that is some terrible writing right there. Just awful dialogue. X-O fucked around with this message at 01:15 on Jan 31, 2019 |
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But in the, like... in the real world, you see... people talk like, well, like that, or, um... they talk like this. In real life, I mean. You and me here in the real world and not, um... you know... in, like, a comic book... or something
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Android Blues posted:"Heroes with PTSD undergoing therapy" could have been a great series. "Convoluted, slow-moving murder mystery that takes place after all the therapy already happened" is not. I mean, given that, judging by previous posts, Tom King thinks that the height of insight into superhero trauma is "character that did PSAs against drugs... WAS SECRETLY DOING ALL THE DRUGS!", I doubt his version of the former would be very good either.
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Darth Nat posted:I mean, given that, judging by previous posts, Tom King thinks that the height of insight into superhero trauma is "character that did PSAs against drugs... WAS SECRETLY DOING ALL THE DRUGS!", I doubt his version of the former would be very good either. To be fair I sort of liked the bit with... Lagoon Lad or Lagunatic or whoever near the beginning of the series.
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He worked for the CIA, so he probably knows a thing or two about selling drugs
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white man signs up for the cia after brown people do 9/11, ends up droning a bunch of civilians, refuses to do actual therapy and instead attempts and fails to work it out through writing comics sounds about white
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Teenage Fansub posted:But in the, like... in the real world, you see... people talk like, well, like that, or, um... they talk like this. In real life, I mean. You and me here in the real world and not, um... you know... in, like, a comic book... or something You are right. Thank god Bendis isn't writing HiC.
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Teenage Fansub posted:But in the, like... in the real world, you see... people talk like, well, like that, or, um... they talk like this. In real life, I mean. You and me here in the real world and not, um... you know... in, like, a comic book... or something Okay now do a Bendis impression!  e: gently caress, beaten
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X-O posted:I think putting Batman in charge of an AI designed to help people get over trauma is a great idea because if there's anyone that's shown the ability to get over trauma it's good ol' Bats. It also seems to be, like many of the things in this comic series, just mean spirited.
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I think the new Valentine's Day special was probably the strongest one of these that DC has done, but I'm really not fond of the fact that the one queer romance in it ended up being a misdirection, and god am I sick of Superman stories in these things where a character just narrates about how great Superman is.
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The page with Solstice was actually kinda sad but, ultimately moot like the rest of the heroes they showed that died because anything emotional dramas they could've told with them are basically down the shitter because HiC is a bad murder mystery comic rather than an emotional drama anthology.
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X-O posted:I think putting Batman in charge of an AI designed to help people get over trauma is a great idea because if there's anyone that's shown the ability to get over trauma it's good ol' Bats. Combined with Batman's track record with AI I'm not sure what could have gone wrong.
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Present ---> Fall of America ----> Extinction of man -----> Sun goes supernova ----> heat death of the universe ----> Doomsday Clock #12
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When will Dream and the Endless show up in Doomsday Clock
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Sinners Sandwich posted:When will Dream and the Endless show up in Doomsday Clock I thought Daniel Dream already had, or was that one of the preamble thingies?
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That was in Metal. I'm guessing it was just to pre-empt the new Sandmanny comics. He was really inconsequential to the story. I can't remember if he was even mentioned in the final issues.
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I was a little disappointed that Metal, which was overall obsessed with connecting all of DC minutiae together into one giant continuity porn extravaganza that just so happened to feature Hawkman very prominently, never once leaned into the tidbit that the current Dream is literally Hawkman's grandson. Speaking of which, I got caught up with Hawkman recently and it's actually enjoyable enough to go on my pull list. It's a pretty introspective series that focuses on Carter Hall as an explorer and scholar instead of the weird annoying barbarian that he's usually typecast as. It's also basically using Hawkman's past lives to explore every fantastical element and setting of the DCU which is entirely my jam. It falls a...liiittle bit into doing the whole "Now here's Hawkman's real actual forreals truest most secret actual origin finally revealed, only it doesn't even end up being all that interesting anyway!" thing that a lot of books can't seem to help but fall into, but that's kind of a footnote and not the actual focus of the book. Bryan Hitch is also...like, good here and not doing the weird melty face thing he was doing in the N52 JL series. For anyone who's interested, I'd actually start with the most recent issue, #8, which is about Carter meeting a version of himself who was a professor on Krypton...while Krypton was about to explode.
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I always wanted a Hawkman series that just explored history of the world using a Hawkman stand in. Him and his wife are supposed to be repeatedly reincarnated so why not have some Hawkman stuff that takes place in Victorian England, or 17th Century China, or ancient Rome etc?
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BrianWilly posted:I was a little disappointed that Metal, which was overall obsessed with connecting all of DC minutiae together into one giant continuity porn extravaganza that just so happened to feature Hawkman very prominently, never once leaned into the tidbit that the current Dream is literally Hawkman's grandson. I was convinced that this was going to come up—I even tweeted something midway through the series along the lines of “I just figured out why Daniel is in Metal”—and I’m still a little surprised there was no payoff in that regard
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