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I know this has been hashed out here and elsewhere but man I hope this doesn't squeeze out 1-2 man shops or scare off fresh minds from jumping in. Just got the shipment notice on my new System80 880 which means I can't buy poo poo for a long rear end time and I'm not looking at NAMM coverage. Certainly didn't watch that Rossum Trident video or anything.
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toadee posted:Ok well, goondolances then to whoever joins me in module burial suicide. Someone needs to make a shirt with a coffin made of modules and the caption "Bury me 42U deep with my modules"
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ricecult posted:Great stuff! I'd love to get a Linn but 2018 was a giant gear binge for me, I gotta take some time before any more big purchases... What kind of looper is that? It's a standard Boss RC-505. I control it a lot using a Behringer FCB1010 floor pedal from my old violin looping days, but it needed an upgraded ROM (Uno 1.04) for it to talk to the looper... As for getting a Linn, everyone should get a Linn. I bought one on credit whilst pissed during the early hours. It was one of the best decisions of my life.
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fuctifino posted:It's a standard Boss RC-505. I control it a lot using a Behringer FCB1010 floor pedal from my old violin looping days, but it needed an upgraded ROM (Uno 1.04) for it to talk to the looper... I feel like “I bought one on credit whilst pissed” would be a good thread title.
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java posted:I feel like “I bought one on credit whilst pissed” would be a good thread title. Thats how I upgraded my minilogue to xd.
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Does anybody know if knobs are standardized, and or how to measure for a replacement? My Tanzbar 2 just arrived and it’s missing two of the knobs (don’t laugh). I’ve contacted the manufacturer but I want to stick something on in the meantime since the original replacements are going to have to come from Germany
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A MIRACLE posted:Does anybody know if knobs are standardized, and or how to measure for a replacement? My Tanzbar 2 just arrived and it’s missing two of the knobs (don’t laugh). I’ve contacted the manufacturer but I want to stick something on in the meantime since the original replacements are going to have to come from Germany Appearance-wise, knobs are very non-standard, and not something you can easily just replace yourself. Size-wise, there are a couple common sizes and shapes. Can you take a picture of the knob-less potentiometer shafts? That's easier than going through them all. The only measurement that really matters is the shaft diameter. And that's usually 1/4" (for metal shafts, at least).
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Jan 30, 2019 03:33
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Most knobs fit a 6.4mm shaft, though some are for round shafts and others are for "D" shaped shafts. Tbh I'd wait for the original knobs, but if you really can't wait you can find them lots of places by searching for "potentiometer knob".
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Jan 30, 2019 03:35
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will just leave this here: https://synth.seanpierce.us/
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Jan 30, 2019 21:50
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Could this be what's behind the microfreak's 'spice' control? http://www.normankoren.com/Audio/Tubemodspice_article.html
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snorch posted:Could this be what's behind the microfreak's 'spice' control? hooo boy I have wasted my life
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My rock band midi guitar came in and it's actually really fun to play though my volca keys, but the "one string" thing seriously sucks. Is there a converter box or something that let's you switch up midi channels and stuff like that? It also seems to just not work at all with the volca beats. Also I know there's a thing that let's you plug in a midi keyboard to control an OP1, that would be a different thing entirely, right? Midi standards seem weird and I don't understand them.
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Stan Taylor posted:My rock band midi guitar came in and it's actually really fun to play though my volca keys, but the "one string" thing seriously sucks. Is there a converter box or something that let's you switch up midi channels and stuff like that? It also seems to just not work at all with the volca beats. The midi channel the volca beats is listening on can be changed, check its manual. Most drum machines listen on channel 10 by default btw. And there’s definitely something for changing up the channel being transmitted. There’s a ton of cool devices for manipulating midi. But tbh I can’t think of one off hand. Also midi ain’t bad, you just gotta learn all the details.
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Drum machines usually receive MIDI on channel 10 with each sound triggered by a particular note, and the guitar sends on channels 1-6. I imagine that's why.
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vkeios posted:Also midi ain’t bad
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I love midi. I love din. I love my rats nest of cables. I love sending an all notes off cuz my S550 is being silly again. midi is the best.
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I'm going DAW free and frankly I am having a blast controlling my jury-rigged pile of cheap crap with a QY70 and a MicroKorg instead of dealing with Ableton. MIDI is cool and good!
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Feb 1, 2019 11:54
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Did you all see that MIDI 2.0 has entered prototyping stages?
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So Math posted:Did you all see that MIDI 2.0 has entered prototyping stages? Roger Linn was asked about this the other day for his thoughts about MIDI 2.0, thinking that he'd be included somehow considering his involvement with MPE. Not only was he not invited to the panel, all of the discussions and proposals are top secret, so there's no way to add any input unless you are part of the committee. It's all really weird tbh.
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I bought some Kickstarter plugin "Imitone" years ago that is supposed to output midi based on your singing. This kid got tons of money and then barely delivered anything for years and years other than long winded status updates. It took him like 3 years to even make it a VST instead of a standalone app. Somehow he got invited to th MIDI 2.0 panel. Now it's his latest excuse for why his plugin still barely works. Claims MIDI 2.0 will let one plugin scan all the activity in a song so the plugin can decide how to behave. 
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Feb 1, 2019 14:20
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Forgot to add that Roger Linn then said that he wasn't that interested in Midi 2.0 in any case, as he couldn't see it affecting the Linnstrument in any way, as the controller works fine with standard vanilla midi. So nobody really knows what MIDI 2.0 is, or why it's needed... or what it'll do?
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Apparently they just showed off some prototypes at NAMM but I'm not sure if anyone's actually wrote up any details about that yet. Here's what this kid mentioned:quote:Research work has slowed down temporarily as I prepare for The NAMM Show next week, where imitone will be part of the MIDI Manufacturers Association booth. My work there has been a big investment in the future of digital music-making, and I'm investing now more than ever: The Association is running a special event to test the first batch of MIDI 2.0 prototypes, and imitone will be one of them.
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Feb 1, 2019 14:40
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Hahahaha! WTF?
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Intelligent auto-portamento? All for it. My idea of the ultimate midi controller has a set of keys and a set of strings to be played with bow, pick or fingers, triggering the notes.
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That's a lot of semi snake oil waffle for: new device found > host app queries device capabilities > device reports capabilities > host app attempts to auto-configure against a set of pre-defined expectations > user fights against interaction edge cases and incomplete customization UI e: to be fair, they have correctly identified the core failing of OSC. ee: this should honestly be labelled "mLAN 2.0" ynohtna fucked around with this message at 16:01 on Feb 1, 2019 |
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vkeios posted:The midi channel the volca beats is listening on can be changed, check its manual. Most drum machines listen on channel 10 by default btw. Sweet, good to know it's doable. I'm gonna do some research and make a goofy rear end setup. barbecue at the folks posted:I'm going DAW free and frankly I am having a blast controlling my jury-rigged pile of cheap crap with a QY70 and a MicroKorg instead of dealing with Ableton. MIDI is cool and good! Yeah I'm slowly amassing cheep hardware and using it as a way to chill without looking at a screen or sitting at a desk. It whips.
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So I took the plunge and bought an Octatrack mk1 on Reverb, only $650 because of a hairline crack in the screen. Comes next week, but I've been watching tutorials/reading the manual in preparation. Other than it being notoriously hard to learn (although looking around, despite being complicated, doesn't seem as bad as it's reputation, but I guess I'll find out when I get my hands on it), anyone have any comments or advice here? The plan is to use it with an 0 Coast, Organelle, Koma Field Kit/Field Kit FX, and probably at points an Electribe 2 and a few other pieces of gear. My only disappointment at the moment is the lack of CV outs, or at least a sync out. There are definitely ways around it (midi to 0 Coast, click to CV on whatever else, or the sync out from the Electribe 2), but does anyone know of any tricks that would be more direct?
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Arguing that we don't need midi 2.0 is like arguing that we didn't need dvd or blue-ray when we are using VHS. Or that 640x480 is all the resolution we need. It's going to open up so many more avenues of creativity and technological innovation in instruments and music production.
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Hamelekim posted:Arguing that we don't need midi 2.0
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Oh yeah, we're definitely ready for something new and usable. Speccing the solution behind closed doors so a small cabal can collude on first-mover tight integration and coincidentally "forget" competitors' needs is just more of the same poo poo that has crippled previous ventures, though. e: vvvv So you know, I'm a miserable old git with decades of jadedness and cynicism over the industry part of the music tech industry, so it's probably best to just ignore me. 
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Oldstench posted:No one has done that ITT That's the tone I got from the discussion so far. A lot of negativity and not a lot of positive comments.
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ynohtna posted:Oh yeah, we're definitely ready for something new and usable. That's the way most of this stuff works though. You get the big players together because they honestly sell the most hardware and are in touch with the needs of the majority of musicians. Not sure how they are colluding as that would require intent to screw other people over.
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 I've been one of the people behind those closed doors on a number of the past next-gen MIDI projects.Maybe this time will be different! 
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MIDI 2.0 secret 440hz mind control ray https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIYC5Y-BVoc
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It might just be closed so progress can be made instead of a million internet users screaming out REEEEEEEEE Usually every time this happens certain features usually "innocently" cripple some random competitor of whatever main company was part of it. Then multiple standards come out and it's a shitshow for a few years.
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I don't know details about midi 2.0 obviously (mostly going on what Adam Neely says about it) but apparently it's mostly about increased resolution, so the benefit would be things like microtuning, or smoother CC control, surround sound for VR environments, speech synthesis, lighting control etc. I would be surprised if it truly "replaced" midi across the market, I think it's more likely going to be used for instruments/software that fulfill very specific functions.
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No sense borrowing trouble anyway. If it's in "discussions for prototype stage" and given the past history of any sort of standard releases (much less adoption) we won't see poo poo for another 10 years anyway.
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Midi is great because of its simplicity and reliability. It is easy for any developer to implement the parts they need while simply ignoring what they don't, with any hardware that will readily send/receive serial data (pretty much every microcontroller under the sun has a serial UART). Don't need to receive CCs, clock, NRPNs etc? Just don't implement them. Congrats, the job is done. Looking at the 2.0 spec, I would wager that many developers will forego it and simply stick with the tried and true 1.0 spec, because all the bells and whistles aren't necessary for most use cases, and simply add a source of complexity, and therefore potential trouble, to a product.
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I just can't see any added benefits that warrant a 2.0 spec. We have MPE now, and I can do polyphonic portamento slides within 24 semitones on the plugins that I have using vanilla MIDI 1.x on the Linnstrument. I'm pretty sure it sends xxx.xxx values for the CC messages, and a USB connection makes sure there is more bandwidth than you'll ever need. I'll be watching for updates though, as I'd like to be proven wrong.
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vkeios posted:I love midi. I love din. I love my rats nest of cables. I love sending an all notes off cuz my S550 is being silly again. midi is the best. you think midi a lotta cables try cv/gate  its fun to clock my tb-03 from the modular and send that out via midi but drat the machine gets so impatient! also apparently i need a mantis now for my vidsynth so lmk if any a yall got a spare 1✌️
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