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STAC Goat posted:Yeah, but that trailer literally opens with Idris Elba saying he's the next stage of human evolution and punching through steel doors. Well holy poo poo then haha I guess they have gone full super powers, my bad
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This was the first movie: Then they moved up to international men of mystery flying cars thru the air.
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wyoming posted:I'd love to see Ayer's cut of Suicide Squad, like, it's a fun and awesome movie despite being butchered, however it'd be nice to see the proper version, Steppenwolf or no. The version with no non-diegetic soundtrack would've ripped.
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Yeah, seeing an Ayers cut would be cool, and sadly even less likely than the fabled Snyder cut.Guy A. Person posted:Well holy poo poo then haha I guess they have gone full super powers, my bad In fairness, this is the first one with explicit superpowers, rather than them implicitly being muscle car wizards.
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Sir Kodiak posted:In fairness, this is the first one with explicit superpowers, rather than them implicitly being muscle car wizards. Yeah the latter is the impression I got from this forum, friends who've seen it, and the rare bits I've caught on premium TV. I admittedly didn't watch the trailer, but that's wild that they've decided to go in that direction.
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I mean, I understand what you guys are saying because i was watching the Rock jump out of a skyscraper and then kill a bunch of guys in free fall while running on the side of the skyscraper and I thought to myself "I guess that's not technically a super power."
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STAC Goat posted:Yeah, but that trailer literally opens with Idris Elba saying he's the next stage of human evolution and punching through steel doors. There's insane escalation between every movie and it somehow works. This feels like a natural continuation after seeing them all.
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STAC Goat posted:Sadly those words mean nothing to me. Are you familiar with Final Fantasy 1 at all? How thieves because ninjas. White mages become white wizards? Fast and Furious is kind of like that. In F&F 1-4, they are all mostly normal people. In F&F 5, Ludacris goes from being a guy that supes up cars to one of the world’s best computer hackers. Vin Diesel goes from being a leader of a street gang to basically a Captain America super soldier leading the Avengers. That sort of thing. Also, for those that are unfamiliar with the series as a whole, the movies have a release order and a chronological order. Movie 3, Tokyo Drift, actually takes place between movies 6 & 7. The movies are loving fascinating and amazing and I could talk about them for loving ages. F&F1 is exactly what it is. It’s a street racing and thieving movie. F&F2 is a loving terrible movie and doesn’t even have Vin Diesel in it because he was off making the xXx movies because he thought that would be more successful. Despite being the worst film in the series, 2 is important for introducing a gently caress ton of characters that are important later. Though, when they were making this movie, they weren’t making it with the long term arc in mind. F&F3 (Tokyo Drift) almost feels like a straight-to-dvd sequel. Not in quality, but because it doesn’t have any of the cast of the previous films. F&F4 is the second worst film in the series. But it is still important because it is when you see the foundations of the transition to modern F&F films. F&F5 is where poo poo gets WILD. Generally considered the best in the series. This was the film that made canon that Tokyo Drift is a future film because a character that died in Tokyo Drift is part of the crew here. F&F6-8 all continue the tone of 5, but continue to ramp up the insanity. If you’ve never watched the series, you’re doing yourself a loving disservice and missing out on one of the best modern film series.
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STAC Goat posted:I mean, Quill clearly has daddy issues with Yondu in 1 too. It wasn't as overt as the movie literally about daddy issues but it was there. Pete was always going to forgive Yondu. Yeah, even at the beginning of the first movie you got the feeling of Quill stretching his wings and testing his limits and Yondu taking it. Yondu's crew basically expects him to react to insubordination and failure like Darth Vader, but with Quill he just doesn't, and that goes to bite him in the rear end in the second movie. Unrelated, but I'm happy to live in a world where I can't say whether people talk about the Fast and Furious franchise or the Final Fantasy games, the last few posts could have been about either one or both. Also unrelated, I've seen Venom. Venom is sick.
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Never seen any of the Fast and Furious movies. All I know about them is that the one with Ludacris starring in it, has a Ludacris song featured during a sequence in the film.
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Feb 1, 2019 22:54
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Sir Kodiak posted:In fairness, this is the first one with explicit superpowers, rather than them implicitly being muscle car wizards. I don't think this one has out and out super powers either though. The trailer looks like Idris is acting post super science surgery. Which seems in like with the general level of super abilities already established by things like flexing out of abroken arm so you can rip a chain gun off a helecopter and fire it.
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I said come in! posted:Never seen any of the Fast and Furious movies. All I know about them is that the one with Ludacris starring in it, has a Ludacris song featured during a sequence in the film. They do the Avengers-style crossover better than Avengers in Fast Five. Tokyo Drift is my favorite.
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teagone posted:They do the Avengers-style crossover better than Avengers in Fast Five. Tokyo Drift is my favorite. There is something funny in here about calling it a crossover instead of just a sequel and how that reflects on the MCU, but I can't quite put it into words because I'm not SMG.
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teagone posted:They do the Avengers-style crossover better than Avengers in Fast Five. Tokyo Drift is my favorite. Let's be fair though, is there anything avengers does well? (Aside from making money lol)
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Grendels Dad posted:There is something funny in here about calling it a crossover instead of just a sequel and how that reflects on the MCU, but I can't quite put it into words because I'm not SMG. Fast Five is the culmination of all Fast films in the Fast & Furious Cinematic Universe that came before it, bringing in the other superheroes from The Fast and Furious, 2 Fast 2 Furious, Tokyo Drift and Fast & Furious to join Dom and Brian, forming a superteam to take on Hobbs.
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Feb 1, 2019 23:33
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Instead of Shaw they should have Statham play Chelios
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Gyges posted:I don't think this one has out and out super powers either though. The trailer looks like Idris is acting post super science surgery. Which seems in like with the general level of super abilities already established by things like flexing out of abroken arm so you can rip a chain gun off a helecopter and fire it. The distinction I'm drawing is between Dwayne Johnson flexing out of his cast reflecting a wild exaggeration of peak human performance—a la Batman—and Idris Elba's super-science surgery being diegetically superhuman. Even though, yeah, in terms of what they do it's just different degrees of the impossible, with a bulletproof villain the next step beyond rubber bullets bouncing off Hobbs during the jailbreak in FF7. Within the movie itself, Idris Elba is presented as doing the impossible, while The Rock simply does what would actually be impossible, but is treated as merely incredibly badass.
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In the last one a swat officer came at Hobbs, wearing a helmet. Hobbs just headbutted him, knocking out the behelmeted guard without a scratch to himself
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Is this where we talk about Glass? Neat that the trilogy starts and finishes with a Train wreck
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I like that the (technically) regular dudes of F&F are taking on a literal superhero this summer. Dumb metafiction like that gives me a kick.
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:Is this where we talk about Glass? It ends perfectly mother fucker
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Ghost Leviathan posted:F&F needs to start a car superhero cinematic universe with Drive Angry and Baby Driver. They already are doing that, subtly. They brought in The Transporter/Death Race driver and Stuntman Mike from Death Proof already. Not an accident, either. Edit: Furiosa as well. Darko fucked around with this message at 11:57 on Feb 2, 2019 |
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Detective No. 27 posted:https://youtu.be/rOSpsN5yEnc This was posted in the jl thread, but it's really good and worth watching
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I said come in! posted:Never seen any of the Fast and Furious movies. All I know about them is that the one with Ludacris starring in it, has a Ludacris song featured during a sequence in the film. They’re dreadful.
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I haven't watched it in a while but holy poo poo the opening of Ang Lee's Hulk is so good and like seriously the way things transition into each other. It's so interesting. Just the different way scene's transition is really interesting.
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Just watched Venom,what the gently caress were people complaining about? It was great hope they make a sequel.
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Brazilianpeanutwar posted:Just watched Venom,what the gently caress were people complaining about? The vast majority of film critics have terrible taste, and fandom is a mental disorder. Most people complaining hadn't even seen the movie. They just assumed that it must be bad because 'only marvel studios can make good movies with marvel characters in them' is the monoculture, now. They are trying to wish into fulfillment marvel studios/disney owning everything so that their brand loyalty can be made stronger and more unified. It's really quite sad, because then when the prophecy fails and Sony actually ends up doing perfectly fine for themselves, it's like Satan has won. It's not enough to say that Venom is a mediocre movie. It has to be awful, because the people who made it are the devil.
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Hollismason posted:I haven't watched it in a while but holy poo poo the opening of Ang Lee's Hulk is so good and like seriously the way things transition into each other. It's so interesting. Just the different way scene's transition is really interesting. it's absolutely lovely 
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Brazilianpeanutwar posted:Just watched Venom,what the gently caress were people complaining about? It was great hope they make a sequel. It was too by-the-numbers for me. It's your bog-standard origin story with no real variation to speak of. 1) Show main character on top of the world 2) He fucks up his life through his own hubris 3) He stumbles upon powers that fix his life. The action scenes felt like they were cut for a trailer, its hard to explain what I mean by that. I didn't watch the trailers but I got the distinct impression when I was watching the action that I was watching a trailer. I thought Tom Hardy's performance was a little weird in a way I can't really put my finger on. That said I've seen it twice and I wouldn't mind seeing it again. It crosses my mind every now and then. I'm not sure why. I'm super excited for the sequel because it looks like Woody Harrelson will be in it and he has a tendency to be in movies that I enjoy.
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SleepCousinDeath posted:it's absolutely lovely There's one specific scene where he shoots the rocket and it blows up and then the camera pulls back and you see all the different cuts of the movie and its insane  Like it is so crazy good. And honestly it's a legit good movie. Like I really like it alot. Hollismason fucked around with this message at 19:37 on Feb 2, 2019 |
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K. Waste posted:The vast majority of film critics have terrible taste, and fandom is a mental disorder. Most people complaining hadn't even seen the movie. They just assumed that it must be bad because 'only marvel studios can make good movies with marvel characters in them' is the monoculture, now. They are trying to wish into fulfillment marvel studios/disney owning everything so that their brand loyalty can be made stronger and more unified. SolidSnakesBandana posted:It was too by-the-numbers for me. It's your bog-standard origin story with no real variation to speak of. 1) Show main character on top of the world 2) He fucks up his life through his own hubris 3) He stumbles upon powers that fix his life. The action scenes felt like they were cut for a trailer, its hard to explain what I mean by that. I didn't watch the trailers but I got the distinct impression when I was watching the action that I was watching a trailer. I thought Tom Hardy's performance was a little weird in a way I can't really put my finger on. see i was ok with the movie being simple,Venom's not exactly superman so i'm totally ok with explaining how he works to the audience and i thought it was a nice change of pace to just have a bad guy be a bad guy an amoral self obsessed dickhead without any boo hoo i'm really just a conflicted wah wah. The only thing i didn't like in terms of action was how the symbiote just sort of appears on eddies skin,i would have preferred it coming straight out of his mouth or from between his eyes and ears,just a small thing. I remember people saying the final fight was hard to understand,bullshit, i thought it was great and it didn't outstay its welcome,which goes for the whole movie really,it's pretty fast. I'd heard woody harrelson was in the stinger and his wig was bad....and it was....but hey you can't fault woody harrleson,guy's a legend.
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I'd be happy with a sequel of Venom just killing bad guys in inventive violent ways because that's what "good guys" do. Throws a bad guy off roof,bad guy lands in front of orphanage sending blood spray and body parts all over,bad guy is dead,venom did "good". see,the kids are shouting and screaming,they must be so happy. Onto the next one....
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That's kind of how Venom was in the comics as "Lethal Protector" actually.
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Yeah i remember the bit from "maximum carnage" (the only venom comic i've read" where he's eating bad guys in an alley and he's like "kids these days play too many violent videogames,we didn't have videogames and look how well we turned out!"
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Hollismason posted:Like it is so crazy good. And honestly it's a legit good movie. Like I really like it alot. I haven't seen it in years, but I agree that it is good. It just wasn't the kind of Hulk movie that people expected or wanted.
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Brother Entropy posted:outside of some fun tom hardy acting and the people who are horny for the symbiote it's hard for me to picture any extreme feelings about that movie, either positive or negative The issue isn't so much that Venom is actually great and nobody understands it. It's that it is, for all intents and purposes, mediocre if ambitious - and yet the initial reception of it was predominately, "LOL Sony shits the bed again can't wait for Disney to buy these fuckers out too."
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K. Waste posted:The issue isn't so much that Venom is actually great and nobody understands it. It's that it is, for all intents and purposes, mediocre if ambitious - and yet the initial reception of it was predominately, "LOL Sony shits the bed again can't wait for Disney to buy these fuckers out too." oh yeah, i agree with you absolutely there. it got really blatant with some of the weirder critic takes of 'i laughed at the jokes and had a fun time but don't worry, i still know that It Was Bad'
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