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Hey, watch this *throws an ice cube in*
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KoRMaK posted:Hey, watch this Well, i watched it and it went way better than I thought. Apparently ice manages to not flash over instantaneously in a deep frier. vvvvvvvv Still not something i wish to ever experience, mind you. Tafferling fucked around with this message at 13:14 on Feb 2, 2019 |
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Feb 2, 2019 12:41
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I assume it's something similar to the leidenfrost effect, where the outside of the ice cube melting and then boiling insulates the ice in the middle, so it boils off comparatively slowly. Whereas if you throw liquid water in it mixes with the hot oil and all boils at once.
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Feb 2, 2019 13:06
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FuturePastNow posted:My grandpa was a boilermaker for decades. He was also missing his ring finger past the second knuckle. I never asked the story but, based on this thread, I suspect they're connected. "were connected"
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Feb 2, 2019 14:05
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I had an ancestor who was a boilermaker. His listed occupation was corrupted to “boilet maker” and then “toilet maker”.
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Feb 2, 2019 15:08
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Safety aside, having to clean all those greasy metal bowls every day would have to be a nightmare.
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I guess maybe what I mean is if they were doing everything by the book, noticed the manifest was wrong, discussed it and came to a clear understanding about the way that would affect braking, but decided to sort out the paperwork later, I don't necessarily think that's unsafe or unprofessional. Corner cutting on forms where there is a clear understanding between the relevant parties about the key information doesn't have to mean there is a problem. A form being filled out incorrectly might mean something, or it might not, in my opinion.
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Feb 2, 2019 15:33
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a wise man once told me, "it don't take much longer to do it right" but I do see your point
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Megillah Gorilla posted:Safety aside, having to clean all those greasy metal bowls every day would have to be a nightmare. Doing what every day?
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OrthoTrot posted:I guess maybe what I mean is if they were doing everything by the book, noticed the manifest was wrong, discussed it and came to a clear understanding about the way that would affect braking, but decided to sort out the paperwork later, I don't necessarily think that's unsafe or unprofessional. Paper record is only a step above that but since investigators had to question the entire process that informs the drivers how to manage brakes on inclines because the books were off compared to reality means at least this form is important administratively in post hoc safety assessments. If nothing else if you're being asked to document the inputs that affect how you are operating equipment its because your employers want evidence that you didn't consciously gently caress up so its in your best interest to only touch 100% accurate paperwork.
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Feb 2, 2019 19:45
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zedprime posted:... its because your employers want evidence that you didn't consciously gently caress up so its in your best interest to only touch 100% accurate paperwork. This is OSHA thread. Lots of employers actually want the job done extremely fast, with a paper trail they can use to avoid management responsibility and dump it on the lowest level employee involved in case anything goes wrong. If you don't play along, good luck in your future job hunt.
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zedprime posted:Paperwork isn't intrinsic to safe operation in the moment but can be a cornerstone to continuous improvement. All the understanding in the world won't survive a blow to the head, and even less dramatically memory is fungible by what you want to believe in a way you don't even realize you're being inaccurate after the fact. Might just be an investigator passive aggressively bringing up they might not have known about the weight if there was a derailment and the load and driver were now thoroughly mixed into the ground and the guard who signed off the weight is halfway across the continent. That's all completely true but it doesn't necessarily mean it's a causal factor. I'm concerned that stuff like this can be an easy win for an investigator, in the manner that long classic post about a derailment caricatures. They filled out the form wrong, open and shut. It's important but did it actually cause what happened here to happen? Like, in all of our day jobs I'm sure we cut the occasional corner without being unsafe or incompetent. A completely formal examination of what happened vs what should have happened on paper might not necessarily tell you what went wrong. Therefore is it actually making anything safer? Not trying to contradict you, just explain where I'm coming from.
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Megillah Gorilla posted:Safety aside, having to clean all those greasy metal bowls every day would have to be a nightmare. I imagine those bowls never leave the fryer for long and just get topped up periodically. Platystemon posted:I had an ancestor who was a boilermaker. The 'boilet' or 'boiled toilet' was a Victorian invention that never really took off
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Feb 2, 2019 20:26
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big dyke energy posted:I imagine those bowls never leave the fryer for long and just get topped up periodically. The Boiled Toilet Boilet is one of the seven Forbidden Sex Positions
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Feb 2, 2019 20:32
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OrthoTrot posted:That's all completely true but it doesn't necessarily mean it's a causal factor. I'm concerned that stuff like this can be an easy win for an investigator, in the manner that long classic post about a derailment caricatures. They filled out the form wrong, open and shut. Sure, but if I cut corners it’s a minor clerical error that has relatively few consequences and is easily fixed. If the guys calculating load weight cut corners, stuff explodes and people die.
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Feb 2, 2019 22:25
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Feb 2, 2019 22:39
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I just love that magazine he pulls out. "We need him to be reading something that's smutty, but also science fictiony."
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Feb 2, 2019 22:54
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OrthoTrot posted:They were obviously supposed to follow some pretty stringent procedures before operating the ersatzsignal, as those procedures are effectively the only safety systems in place. There is no engineered fail safe here, just a human one. And in this case the human one failed spectacularly as it was engaged in playing Dungeon Hunter 5 on its mobile. 
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Feb 2, 2019 22:56
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NoneMoreNegative posted:
 Reminds me of a 3D art class I took in college. Guy across the table from me was using a Dremel with a cutting disc, and the disc exploded. I took two disc chunks to the face, one scorching my cheekbone, the other pinging off my glasses hard enough to leave a dent. Same class, dude nearly gassed himself to death with spray adhesive. At least we had a sort of fume room for that poo poo, but if you didn't turn on the fan, all it did was isolate the fumes. Actually, I think that was the same dude with the exploding Dremel. PROTIP, art classes are hazardous to your health.
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Platystemon posted:I had an ancestor who was a boilermaker. Hard to write with fingats.
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Dirt Road Junglist posted:
https://torontolife.com/city/life/my-beautiful-death/ sad osha story, woman spends 15 years making natural-material sculptures, including using mussel shells. Problem is: quote:In 2015, I was diagnosed with heavy-metal poisoning. Doctors found high levels of arsenic and lead in my blood, the result of chronic exposure. The water where the mussels grew was likely contaminated from industrial waste, and the mussel shells I’d been working with for decades were toxic. Metals can be absorbed through consumption, air or skin. I’d been exposed in every way.
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 Won't some of the neurological symptoms go away as she undergoes chilation therapy for some of the heavy metal poisoning?
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I think so, she doesn't sound as bad off as part of what she described her health as before finally being diagnosed. But the length and severity of the exposure might be such there are still severe permanent effects is my guess.
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Feb 3, 2019 06:38
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Bumming out in the osha thread.
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Burt Sexual posted:Bumming out in the osha thread. 
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SLOSifl posted:As a teacher’s assistant in middle-school metal shop I had to deal with at least ten cases where someone got their hair caught in a drill. All of them died. Did you kill these people? I've never heard of anyone dying in a middle school metal-shop accident, and you've dealt with ten of them alone. The connecting factor between these deaths isn't the metal shop, it's you.
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Feb 3, 2019 08:11
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this reminds me of some horror stories of large batches of plaster and burns, and maybe some grade school loosing a hand?
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SLOSifl posted:As a teacher’s assistant in middle-school metal shop I had to deal with at least ten cases where someone got their hair caught in a drill. All of them died. What the gently caress kind of drills you using.
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Like you’d have to work hard to intentionally kill someone with a drill. Wait gently caress it’s the drills that died gently caress you! 
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Bloody Hedgehog posted:Did you kill these people?
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Dirt Road Junglist posted:
When I was taking model making (think rapid prototyping) classes in college we had a group of British exchange students. They apparently they weren't taught safety at their school. We had to get them to start wearing safety glasses, gloves, respirators, and to turn the negative pressure fan on in the spray booth. I'm not sure why their school was so lax, but that's how it was. I found one of the guys working in the spray booth with the fan off, no gloves, and no mask. He was using a touch up gun with green automotive paint. His hands and face were green. He was breathing paint. Breathing automotive paint! They would also wash their bare hands in the gun cleaner like it was nothing. The gun cleaner is like a sink but instead of water it uses MEK. All four of the Brits were good friends of ours but, apparently, their University was super lazy about safety training so it kind of put us all on edge.
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It's a British thing - if you lived there, you'd want it to be over as soon as possible as well.
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It's the "make do and mend" attitude but they leave the last part out which is "and lose your hand"
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spankmeister posted:It's the "make do and mend" attitude but they leave the last part out which is "and lose your hand" Use it up. Wear it out. Make it do or do without.
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PhazonLink posted:this reminds me of some horror stories of large batches of plaster and burns, and maybe some grade school loosing a hand? https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uk...art-lesson.html I went through the british educational system, and it mostly depends on the teachers whether or not you get out intact. My CDT (woodwork/metal work) teacher was always good on some things, and yet completely blase about others. No long hair/loose clothing on the pillar drill? Check. No unattended use of the forge? check. using the bench grinder un supervised? yeah whatever. using the trike bath to degrease parts? go right ahead making your own PCBs, then soldering them? well the extractor fans are busted, but sure, crack on!
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/7172075/ Wow, apparently losing fingers while attempting to make hand moulds is a regular thing.
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Halfway through a 4-day observation in the neurology dept. Between not bathing, pissing in a bottle, and coming down off of Benzos it's basically become a Truckfuckling vision quest.
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which superpowers are you expecting to get as a result of this?
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