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My Linux Rig
Mar 27, 2010
Probation
Can't post for 6 years!

Ha ha ha yes... yes!!

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Taerkar
Dec 7, 2002

kind of into it, really

TulliusCicero posted:

How often does that case even happen?

Approximately never.

Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007

Now they are just daring him

https://twitter.com/SenatorTomUdall/status/1092505237548683264

https://twitter.com/SenCortezMasto/status/1092508590013853697

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

that's a pretty smart idea in general.

Sanguinia
Jan 1, 2012

~Everybody wants to be a cat~
~Because a cat's the only cat~
~Who knows where its at~

Z. Autobahn posted:

One pro-tip before weighing in on the Fairfax thing is to ask yourself how you'd react if the identical accusations were being raised about a Republican

If the allegation came from a worthless ideological rag that exists only to fleece idiots and hurt vulnerable people? Probably laugh at it, like we have done many times in the past when left wing fringe "news" is beung stupid. Remember Banons Death Penalty?

The only reason I'm simmering instead of amused is how this has become serious before it had any right to be serious, almost certainly because the person on interest is a black progressive. Not to say he didn't do it, its entirely possible he did, but right now this should be a joke and people are already looking to let blood.

Mr. Fall Down Terror
Jan 24, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

Dapper_Swindler posted:

i thought that was already illegal? i mean thats why gossnell is in jail(plus the dead women)

it is, but "democrats want to murder babies" is the only emotional button they can push now that they're hammering on the race panic and icky gays buttons and aren't achieving popular support

they are specifically ignoring the fact that this only ever really happens in cases where the infant's survival is not viable after birth. these creep shows want to terri schiavo some newborns

negativeneil
Jul 8, 2000

"Personally, I think he's done a great job of being down to earth so far."

PhazonLink posted:

I want to see Romney run again so we get a minor repeat of "those weird Mormons" like we had in 2012 before he won the rpimary.

This is the best rmoney callback. Well done, sir.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

luxury handset posted:

it is, but "democrats want to murder babies" is the only emotional button they can push now that they're hammering on the race panic and icky gays buttons and aren't achieving popular support

they are specifically ignoring the fact that this only ever really happens in cases where the infant's survival is not viable after birth. these creep shows want to terri schiavo some newborns

well yeah, as someone with disibilities, i know how these fucks are, they are fine stripping healthcare from everyone but are fine with keeping the dead/brain dead hearts beating by any means necessary.

theblackw0lf
Apr 15, 2003

"...creating a vision of the sort of society you want to have in miniature"

Sanguinia posted:

If the allegation came from a worthless ideological rag that exists only to fleece idiots and hurt vulnerable people? Probably laugh at it, like we have done many times in the past when left wing fringe "news" is beung stupid. Remember Banons Death Penalty?

The only reason I'm simmering instead of amused is how this has become serious before it had any right to be serious, almost certainly because the person on interest is a black progressive. Not to say he didn't do it, its entirely possible he did, but right now this should be a joke and people are already looking to let blood.

Except this didn't first come from the rag. This came from a woman going to the Post to report on allegations of assault.

That should not be taken as a joke.

funeral home DJ
Apr 21, 2003


Pillbug

luxury handset posted:

it is, but "democrats want to murder babies" is the only emotional button they can push now that they're hammering on the race panic and icky gays buttons and aren't achieving popular support

It’s pretty amazing how they can effortlessly slam the gears between the non-issues with the culture wars. I wonder if we’re gonna see them cog back to first, which I think is “bussing” as best as I can tell. Maybe a panic about “them” coming to affluent white suburbs, another huge bout of anti-public infrastructure sentiment from the dying old whites, who knows.

Edit:

Dapper_Swindler posted:

well yeah, as someone with disibilities, i know how these fucks are, they are fine stripping healthcare from everyone but are fine with keeping the dead/brain dead hearts beating by any means necessary.

And, knowing the state of US social services, leaving the humongous, insurmountable bill at the feet of the families, I’m sure.

CuddleCryptid
Jan 11, 2013

Things could be going better

We are going to have some real stimulating conversations going on about this

https://twitter.com/MylesMill/status/1092405475939893250?s=19

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus

CuddleCryptid posted:

We are going to have some real stimulating conversations going on about this

https://twitter.com/MylesMill/status/1092405475939893250?s=19

Just glancing at the tweet it seems the common denominator here is actually numbers, specifically the numbers 7, 18, and 13. If we can get together as a society to outlaw these fiendish things, we may be able to curb this kind of violence.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

CuddleCryptid posted:

We are going to have some real stimulating conversations going on about this

https://twitter.com/MylesMill/status/1092405475939893250?s=19

nah, trump might tweet some poo poo but the body count is below double digits and to the media it was "thugs killing thugs" so they won't care.

Fritz Coldcockin
Nov 7, 2005

theblackw0lf posted:

Except this didn't first come from the rag. This came from a woman going to the Post to report on allegations of assault.

That should not be taken as a joke.

Without corroboration this remains a vicious rumor. If an accuser comes forth to tell her story, then I am more than happy to change my mind.

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
Fun Shoe
1https://twitter.com/existentialfish/status/1092446318679724034
2https://twitter.com/politico/status/1092452002590801921
3https://twitter.com/JamilSmith/status/1092549835838738432
4https://twitter.com/DevlinBarrett/status/1092506032214102016
5https://twitter.com/dsamuelsohn/status/1092552988445548544
6https://twitter.com/chrisgeidner/status/1092513061527789568
7https://twitter.com/julianzelizer/status/1092554696324251648
8https://twitter.com/rebeccaballhaus/status/1092555629124874242
9https://twitter.com/jefftayloredits/status/1092546843152695296
10https://twitter.com/colinwilhelm/status/1092559091317264384
11https://twitter.com/Charliemagne/status/1092475572280836097
12https://twitter.com/_waleedshahid/status/1092539361164476416
13https://twitter.com/jbarro/status/1092557940832325632
14https://twitter.com/yashar/status/1092554403653943296
15https://twitter.com/MichaelCBender/status/1092118061207961600
16https://twitter.com/_cingraham/status/1092536441819648000
17https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1092547282594156544
18https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1092548899896811520
19https://twitter.com/rachanadixit/status/1092549217124581376
20https://twitter.com/willsommer/status/1092479937238519808
https://i.imgur.com/fiOGjCs.gifv

Gaunab
Feb 13, 2012
LUFTHANSA YOU FUCKING DICKWEASEL
The best thing to do right now is wait for more details to surface regarding Fairfax.

Z. Autobahn
Jul 20, 2004

colonel tigh more like colonel high

Fritz Coldcockin posted:

Without corroboration this remains a vicious rumor. If an accuser comes forth to tell her story, then I am more than happy to change my mind.

Is that how you felt about the Kavanuagh allegations before Ford came forward?

CuddleCryptid posted:

Please elucidate, o balance-bringer, who hath put forth an idea that hath never crossed mine eyes before

"Treat sexual assault allegations credibly and believe women? Pffft both-sides centrism!" is a hot new take

Z. Autobahn fucked around with this message at 00:09 on Feb 5, 2019

mango sentinel
Jan 5, 2001

by sebmojo

🤔

Fritz Coldcockin
Nov 7, 2005

Z. Autobahn posted:

Is that how you felt about the Kavanuagh allegations before Ford came forward?


"Treat sexual assault allegations credibly and believe women? Pffft both-sides centrism!" is a hot new take

I'm not giving something sourced from a right wing rag the time of day until I see independent corroboration. Had DailyKOS been the only ones to report the Kavanaugh allegations and Ford not come forward, I probably wouldn't have believed them either.

citybeatnik
Mar 1, 2013

You Are All
WEIRDOS




The accusations are coming from Wapo i thought?

Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007

theblackw0lf
Apr 15, 2003

"...creating a vision of the sort of society you want to have in miniature"

Fritz Coldcockin posted:

Without corroboration this remains a vicious rumor. If an accuser comes forth to tell her story, then I am more than happy to change my mind.

She did come forth though, to the Post.

I'm just concerned about reacting to this story in a way that reinforces why woman don't report. Imagine that this story is true, and the woman is reading some of the comments about the story. What would she be thinking? Are people reacting in a way that would let a woman know that if she came forward, we would really listen to her story?

Fritz Coldcockin
Nov 7, 2005

citybeatnik posted:

The accusations are coming from Wapo i thought?

They're merely regurgitating the Big League Politics story and explaining why they chose not to run the story back when Fairfax won the Lt. Governorship. They have not corroborated anything; only disputed Fairfax's claim that they found inconsistencies in the story that was relayed to them.

citybeatnik
Mar 1, 2013

You Are All
WEIRDOS




Ah alright. Thanks for that.

Z. Autobahn
Jul 20, 2004

colonel tigh more like colonel high

Fritz Coldcockin posted:

They're merely regurgitating the Big League Politics story and explaining why they chose not to run the story back when Fairfax won the Lt. Governorship. They have not corroborated anything; only disputed Fairfax's claim that they found inconsistencies in the story that was relayed to them.

The Post is corroborating that the woman came to them with those same allegations. They felt like a single accusation from a source with no evidence was not credible enough to run with, which, incidentally, was how the Kavanaugh allegations were treated until they leaked.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Z. Autobahn posted:

The Post is corroborating that the woman came to them with those same allegations. They felt like a single accusation from a source with no evidence was not credible enough to run with, which, incidentally, was how the Kavanaugh allegations were treated until they leaked.

So it’s unlikely this was an attempt at planting a false story, like that conservative idiot who faked a story about Roy Moore under a false name to discredit the nyt?

Fritz Coldcockin
Nov 7, 2005

Z. Autobahn posted:

The Post is corroborating that the woman came to them with those same allegations. They felt like a single accusation from a source with no evidence was not credible enough to run with, which, incidentally, was how the Kavanaugh allegations were treated until they leaked.

And if this plays out like the Kavanaugh allegations did, I'm more than happy to admit I was wrong and call for Fairfax's ouster too.

Z. Autobahn
Jul 20, 2004

colonel tigh more like colonel high

Antifa Turkeesian posted:

So it’s unlikely this was an attempt at planting a false story, like that conservative idiot who faked a story about Roy Moore under a false name to discredit the nyt?

Given that the Post confirms the woman came to them during his confirmation, long before anyone imagined he'd be replacing Northam, I'd say it being a planted story is extremely unlikely. That's another similarity to Kavanuagh btw (the allegations coming in advance of the person being in a national position).

Telsa Cola
Aug 19, 2011

No... this is all wrong... this whole operation has just gone completely sidewaysface
I think the proper thing to do is wait and see how this develops without getting strong opinions on it until then because we are in a fun mess with a black male being accused of sexual assualt in an enviroment where womans testimony is flat out ignored.

But this is D&D so argue away.

Fritz Coldcockin
Nov 7, 2005

Telsa Cola posted:

I think the proper thing to do is wait and see how this develops without getting strong opinions on it until then because we are in a fun mess with a black male being accused of sexual assualt in an enviroment where womans testimony is flat out ignored.

But this is D&D so argue away.

Ultimately I think it will depend on Northam. If he steps down I would look for Fairfax's accuser to come forward and tell her story in person (assuming the story is real).

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

Telsa Cola posted:

I think the proper thing to do is wait and see how this develops without getting strong opinions on it until then because we are in a fun mess with a black male being accused of sexual assualt in an enviroment where womans testimony is flat out ignored.

But this is D&D so argue away.

my strong opinion is that if true it's fuckin depressing

but I otherwise agree

corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

Oh no oh god it's all true!
I believe it but I don't know where that leaves Virginia if they both end up resigning

Fritz Coldcockin
Nov 7, 2005

corn in the bible posted:

I believe it but I don't know where that leaves Virginia if they both end up resigning

Mark Herring, the AG, becomes governor.

friendbot2000
May 1, 2011

corn in the bible posted:

I believe it but I don't know where that leaves Virginia if they both end up resigning

AG becomes Governor

Edit:messed up the line of succession

theblackw0lf
Apr 15, 2003

"...creating a vision of the sort of society you want to have in miniature"

friendbot2000 posted:

Secretary of State becomes Governor and is a pretty progressive person too.

Who would become LG?

friendbot2000
May 1, 2011

theblackw0lf posted:

Who would become LG?

LG is selected by Herring and Senate approves IIRC

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.

Fritz Coldcockin posted:

Mark Herring, the AG, becomes governor.

And when it turns out he has a history of organizing Bum Fights who becomes governor after him?

Ice Phisherman
Apr 12, 2007

Swimming upstream
into the sunset



Telsa Cola posted:

But this is D&D so argue away.

Being a mother is the hardest job in the world.
Chicago deep dish pizza isn't a pizza, it's a casserole.
The name Jaime is not a real name, only an incorrect spelling of Jamie.
Anne Coulter is what happens when you give a flat seltzer water full of Virginia Slims cigarette butts to a gremlin.

mango sentinel
Jan 5, 2001

by sebmojo

Fritz Coldcockin posted:

Mark Herring, the AG, becomes governor.

This is correct

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Fritz Coldcockin
Nov 7, 2005
Herring will probably find himself running for governor or lieutenant governor in 2021 anyway.

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