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pseudanonymous posted:Is Brandon Sanderson really worth critiquing? I only ever read him in the last few WoT books, because I needed some kind of closure, and he was just bad. It seems like he's just real bad, and he writes a lot, I mean nobody is breaking down exactly why Xanth novels are bad, because you know, who cares? For me, it's also personal. I used to really like Sanderson. I read Elantris when I was pretty young, and loved it. I read Mistborn in college because some of my friends pushed them on me and thought they were pretty drat good. I read Arcanum Unbounded, his big short story collection, just a couple years ago, and actually quite enjoyed it (honestly, my bet is that shorter formats would suit him better, forcing him to get to the point.) But my tastes have changed a lot in the last couple years, and even just thinking back on what little I remember I'm not that impressed. I'm really interested to take a critical look at how dumb I used to be. "When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I grew up, I TheGreatEvilKing posted:As way of kings is spoken for...I could do Mistborn? Please do an in-depth analysis of how metal engravings are the only trustworthy source of knowledge.
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Karia posted:honestly, my bet is that shorter formats would suit him better, forcing him to get to the point. Probably, hence my suggestion of Emperor's Soul instead of Way of Kings.
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Feb 5, 2019 03:20
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Karia posted:Please do an in-depth analysis of how metal engravings are the only trustworthy source of knowledge. The loving angels' name is Moroni. That seems like it's beyond parody.
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Feb 5, 2019 03:22
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That is one of the least crazy things about Mormonism.
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Feb 5, 2019 03:33
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pseudanonymous posted:The loving angels' name is Moroni. That seems like it's beyond parody. what a jabroni
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Feb 5, 2019 03:37
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moroni is an actual apocryphal angel iirc
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Feb 5, 2019 03:45
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Amethyst posted:This is incredibly stupid. All of the mods should be banned.
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Feb 5, 2019 03:48
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hieronymous fears botl because he knows in his heart that he'll be mod of this subforum one day
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Feb 5, 2019 03:49
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chernobyl kinsman posted:hieronymous fears botl because he knows in his heart that he'll be mod of this subforum one day Well, there's no doubt that Botl is the supreme booklord spoken of in the sacred texts.
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Feb 5, 2019 04:02
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BotL's takedowns are good. But serially probating BotL for months and giving him a mod challenge is also good. That is the riddle of steel. In actually good genre trash, anyone ever read Fritze Leiber's Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser? It's got that weirdness that early fantasy has, which modern stuff just lacks entirely. Like there's one where a weird guy chants at them and it compels them to just set sail across an ocean. Or one of them pledges service to a guy who's all eyeballs.
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Critiquing Sanderson is more useful because he’s tremendously productive in both his own writing and in his teaching others how to write. There’s an entire generation of upcoming fantasy writers listening to the Writing Excuses podcast or going on the writers cruise that Sanderson & co organize. His style and the way he thinks about writing has made an indelible impression on the genre. Way of Kings is also the culmination of a decade or more of work at his craft, as opposed to being the one hit wonder that Rothfuss, etc are. So critiques of his current writing will really get at what the problems are with modern fantasy.
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Feb 5, 2019 05:11
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poisonpill posted:BotL's takedowns are good. But serially probating BotL for months and giving him a mod challenge is also good. That is the riddle of steel. Yeah, they're pretty great. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOpRcRYKWH0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_cuT6EmQHw
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Feb 5, 2019 05:13
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Just to be clear about this: it is a major plot point in the second Mistborn book that anything not engraved in metal is suspect. I bring this up not to mock Mormonism (well, not entirely) but because you can draw one hell of a parallel between the golden plates and Mistborn 2. Look at the quote for Chapter 1 at the below link. Death of the author and all, but it would be drat interesting to get a real analysis of the parallels between the LDS and Sanderson's work. https://coppermind.net/wiki/Summary:The_Well_of_Ascension The more I remember about these books the weirder they get.
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Ccs posted:or going on the writers cruise that Sanderson & co organize. lmao are you serious?
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Zoracle Zed posted:lmao are you serious? It's not that weird, there are a bunch of smaller cruise ships where people give talks as part of the ticket.
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sebmojo posted:It's not that weird, there are a bunch of smaller cruise ships where people give talks as part of the ticket. Hey moron, RESCIND THE STUPID CONDITIONS YOUR IDIOT MOD COLLEGUE HAS PLACED ON BOTL. it sucks and you should be ashamed.
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Feb 5, 2019 05:47
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i personally despise Content and think the best posters to probate are the ones who produce it consistently. that is cool, to me
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Feb 5, 2019 05:53
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Amethyst posted:Hey moron, RESCIND THE STUPID CONDITIONS YOUR IDIOT MOD COLLEGUE HAS PLACED ON BOTL. it sucks and you should be ashamed. Lol
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Feb 5, 2019 05:54
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sebmojo posted:Lol hahah lol. Everyone's laughing. Great joke. Mods rule!!!! Just kidding. You are actively fostering a lovely culture.
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Feb 5, 2019 05:55
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sebmojo posted:It's not that weird, there are a bunch of smaller cruise ships where people give talks as part of the ticket. it's actually extremely weird hth
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Feb 5, 2019 05:58
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Amethyst posted:hahah lol. Everyone's laughing. Great joke. Mods rule!!!! Ty amethyst
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death of the author does not mean that you cant e.g. look for ways in which the authors religion has shaped a given text also Amethyst posted:Hey moron, RESCIND THE STUPID CONDITIONS YOUR IDIOT MOD COLLEGUE HAS PLACED ON BOTL. it sucks and you should be ashamed.
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Feb 5, 2019 06:03
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*godawful fantasy author charges $10k to get secluded with him on a floating norovirus barge* uhhh ever heard of Sea Org?? idiot?? it's actually very popular
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Honestly, sebmojo, at least relax the challenge to threads where he isn't the OP. The Rothfuss thread is extremely impoverished by this stipulation.
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Sham bam bamina! posted:Honestly, sebmojo, at least relax the challenge to threads where he isn't the OP. The Rothfuss thread is extremely impoverished by this stipulation. I mod CC so i have no sway on this at all.
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Feb 5, 2019 07:01
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sebmojo posted:I mod CC so i have no sway on this at all.
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Feb 5, 2019 07:07
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Honestly,
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What made me finally put down way of kings was, right on the heels of one character doing the stupidest possible thing in response to seeing creepy shadow monsters, which was I think to sever all ties to anyone who could help her and run away, learning that the other main character turned down a magical suit of armour because it would instantly turn him in to a nobleman and he couldn't abide it because of how badly they had treated him growing up. It was just too stupid. Also tedious.
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Feb 5, 2019 07:40
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hieronymous doesnt come into this thread because he is a coward
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chernobyl kinsman posted:hieronymous doesnt come into this thread because he is a coward all mods are cowards. especially the dweeb who thinks its cool to pay five figures to sail into international waters with a mormon robot only to be advised "just type more words faster"
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i am still mourning the fact that this book won an award
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I mean, it won the shittiest fantasy prize that was essentially created just to give Sanderson a pat on the back because all the other ones don't give a poo poo about him
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Feb 5, 2019 13:46
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitney_Awards I thought he’d won a Hugo or something.
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Feb 5, 2019 13:49
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more like Blandon Blanderson
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Lol a mormon literary prize
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Feb 5, 2019 14:06
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Then again mormons do have a proud legacy of fantasy
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Then again mormons do have a proud legacy of fantasy Real hot take bruv
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Ras Het posted:Real hot take bruv Look sometimes you gotta take the easy joke
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i present to you my rear end in a top hat. dare you gaze upon the treasures inside?
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deep within the dark and cartilaginous shaft, you glimpse the shine of a jewelled hilt. could it be one of the assblades spoken of in ancient legend?
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