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Gatts posted:I look at the Avengers/Captain Marvel trailer and I look at the Hobbs and Shaw trailer and I wonder how is this even the same industry? It's late night local cable TV vs full on Hollywood blockbuster level of different. they can cheap out on the trailers because the comic book nerds are going to shuffle in anyhow, can't they profit is revenue - spend friendoes
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How big of a demographic is comic book fans? I would be interested in seeing demographics for who is showing up the most to see these films in theaters. I've always been very interested in seeing what it is that brings people into the theater, but I don't know that such information exists. I know that deep down it probably has nothing to do with the quality of a film, because as we've seen, the MCU movies make an incredible amount of money.
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Actual people who buy comic books are a tiny group.
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I said come in! posted:How big of a demographic is comic book fans? I would be interested in seeing demographics for who is showing up the most to see these films in theaters. I've always been very interested in seeing what it is that brings people into the theater, but I don't know that such information exists. I know that deep down it probably has nothing to do with the quality of a film, because as we've seen, the MCU movies make an incredible amount of money. Agreed, I've come to the gradual realization that the correlation between financial success and quality is tenuous at best, because people go to movies to relax and be entertained, and for better or worse, MCU has perfected that kind of light and disposable entertainment. I think a big help is that bloggers and media are far more generous to to the MCU movies for some weird inexplicable reason. If people are told a movie is good then they're more likely to give it the benefit of the doubt I think.
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Dan Didio posted:Actual people who buy comic books are a tiny group. Yep, but the problem is that [original fans] of comics and cartoons and books are very vocal online and if there's no other newsworthy aspects about an upcoming adaptation then they can pretty easily hijack the discussion. There doesn't even need to be an actual discussion, they just need to be seen to be kicking up a stink and that'll make headlines all on its own, and even if the general public doesn't read the articles they'll still see the headlines in sidebars and assume the production is in trouble. The lead up to Ghostbusters 2016 was a great example of all that (irrespective of the actual quality of the film when it eventually came out) Related to that, I just heard that there's a Comicsgate movement that is a bunch of chuds fighting back against the "SJW invasion" of the medium 
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Yep, but the problem is that [original fans] of comics and cartoons and books are very vocal online and if there's no other newsworthy aspects about an upcoming adaptation then they can pretty easily hijack the discussion. There doesn't even need to be an actual discussion, they just need to be seen to be kicking up a stink and that'll make headlines all on its own, and even if the general public doesn't read the articles they'll still see the headlines in sidebars and assume the production is in trouble. Can you imagine the uproar if Superman fought against the nazi alt right movement today? Or if Captain America told the MCU president to gently caress off with his wall and caravan scaremongering?
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McCloud posted:Agreed, I've come to the gradual realization that the correlation between financial success and quality is tenuous at best, because people go to movies to relax and be entertained, and for better or worse, MCU has perfected that kind of light and disposable entertainment. I think a big help is that bloggers and media are far more generous to to the MCU movies for some weird inexplicable reason. If people are told a movie is good then they're more likely to give it the benefit of the doubt I think. Like... Just... Turn your brain off??!
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Gatts posted:I look at the Avengers/Captain Marvel trailer and I look at the Hobbs and Shaw trailer and I wonder how is this even the same industry? It's late night local cable TV vs full on Hollywood blockbuster level of different. Could be worse, the Birds of Prey trailer looks like public access TV
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Related to that, I just heard that there's a Comicsgate movement that is a bunch of chuds fighting back against the "SJW invasion" of the medium The latest genius to come from that group is Mike S Miller drew on an original Mike Weiringo cover breakdown and turned Spider-Man into his own lovely character, then forged Ringo’s signature. He tried showing it off to another chud, who told him he shoulda just left it alone. He handled the news like a true adult, setting the piece on fire on his lovely outdoor grill. Edit: Corrected. Thanks man! Retrowave Joe fucked around with this message at 14:55 on Feb 5, 2019 |
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Retardog posted:The latest genius to come from that group is Ethan Van Sciver drew on an original Mike Weiringo cover breakdown and turned Spider-Man into his own lovely character, then forged Ringo’s signature. He tried showing it off to another chud, who told him he shoulda just left it alone. Sciver is an absolute scumbag, but to give rear end in a top hat idiocy its due, it was Mike S. Miller that did that with the Spider-Man picture.
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Retardog posted:The latest genius to come from that group is Mike S Miller drew on an original Mike Weiringo cover breakdown and turned Spider-Man into his own lovely character, then forged Ringo’s signature. Dude folded like an accordion. Also that same line of idiot chud comics morons: Have an anti-circumscision hero book Reached out to Larry Hama to speak out against SJWs in books (lol)
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Feb 5, 2019 18:27
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These people running in the same circles as Diversity & Comics or is that a different thing
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Burkion posted:These people running in the same circles as Diversity & Comics or is that a different thing He's the mafia boss, apparently.
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Endgame is still currently sitting at around a 3 hour edit: http://collider.com/avengers-endgame-runtime-update/ For as long as Infinity War was, I thought it was paced fairly well. The Thor plot line in the mid-movie was a bit of a drag, but I still think overall it worked.
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I have zero problems with a three hour movie but i'm pretty sure i'm in the minority here.
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I said come in! posted:I have zero problems with a three hour movie but i'm pretty sure i'm in the minority here. I'm down for it and I'm sure I'll enjoy it at least for the first run through. I feel like Marvel and especially Avengers stuff tends to diminish for me on repeated views as the novelty wears off and I can see the seams on the action, I don't think a 3 hour cut would help with that.
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I have no problem with a three hour movie if the content demands it. But I agree with the concept of diminishing returns. When Infinity War popped up on Netflix I had to break it up into three viewings on a rewatch, and never had any interest in dedicating that time to it again in theatres.
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Feb 6, 2019 18:00
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You get your money's worth as well.
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Three hours isn't much compared to a 24 hour marathon of all the movies
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Bedshaped posted:You get your money's worth as well. If the movie is long enough it's like they're paying you, really.
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id be worried theyll linger for the first hour where they show the aftereffects of The Snap, kinda boring with nothing happening
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I rewatched Infinity War the other other night and it works for me because its so dense. No, there's not some great narrative in there but its just scene after scene of teamups and meetups and fights. So it never really stops to lose momentum (except maybe with that Peter Dinklage subplot or the Thanos/Gamora stuff, but I was cool with both). So like, if Endgame does that same sort of thing it can work even at 3 hours. And its interesting because we know Ant-Man, Hawkeye, and Captain Marvel all got held back but show up in Endgame so they theoretically left themselves room to keep running on the "teamups and meetups" thing even without any other surprises to keep the "finger snap fallout" first act moving.
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Ammanas posted:id be worried theyll linger for the first hour where they show the aftereffects of The Snap, kinda boring with nothing happening I don't want anything to linger but there's a LOT of ways this can be interesting. Show the immediate effects (planes falling out of the sky, ships running aground, meltdowns, blackouts, ...) and longer term global impacts. Does society break down? Villains take over? Personally I hope they don't just gloss over the impact and consequences.
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935 posted:I don't want anything to linger but there's a LOT of ways this can be interesting. Show the immediate effects (planes falling out of the sky, ships running aground, meltdowns, blackouts, ...) and longer term global impacts. Does society break down? Villains take over? Personally I hope they don't just gloss over the impact and consequences. They won't say poo poo - at best: 
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Killing half of all life would do wonders for the climate change situation
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Retardog posted:Killing half of all life would do wonders for the climate change situation TL;DR Colonization of the Americas at the end of the 15th Century killed so many people, it cooled the Earth enough to create a “mini ice age”.
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Lol, Ike sucks
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I said come in! posted:I have zero problems with a three hour movie but i'm pretty sure i'm in the minority here. Bring back Intermission
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Mr. Apollo posted:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-47063973 Ghengis Khan's conquests did something similar, if memory serves.
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Mr. Apollo posted:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-47063973 If the snap actually happened for real that would leave the earth with 3.76 billion people, which probably would not have the impact that this mass genocide had because when it occurred the earth didn't even have 1 billion people yet. I don't think realistically halving the worlds population in 2019 would do any good, the damage has already been done and according to pretty much all environmental scientists can't be reversed at this point.
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I find it fascinating that people are hypervigilant about all the people Superman callously does not save in a fight to the death, but are now having casual conversations about how genocide may heal the Earth.
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Vintersorg posted:They won't say poo poo - at best: wasn't this retconned in civil war, with only like 70 people dying in that battle?
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Equeen posted:wasn't this retconned in civil war, with only like 70 people dying in that battle? I believe the reasoning was that “hundreds” were killed total while 70-something were killed indirectly through the Avengers’ own actions. It’s still pretty funny that a massive alien armada turning all of NYC into a war zone is less lethal than nineteen people on a few planes.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:I find it fascinating that people are hypervigilant about all the people Superman callously does not save in a fight to the death, but are now having casual conversations about how genocide may heal the Earth. We could save a large number of citizens, down some of our deeper mine-shafts!
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That's a good shot though, right? I'd dare say that's a great shot.
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SolidSnakesBandana posted:That's a good shot though, right? I'd dare say that's a great shot. Well, it accomplishes the goal of showing us the characters that's for sure.
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Ragnarok is full of shots like that and I cannot bring myself to watch it again. It looks awful. What the hell!
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