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Lakedaimon
Jan 11, 2007

I remember reading about one two player game on the developer forums and the Japanese player beelined for the Ki-84 R model which I think had a supercharger and was surprisingly capable, and it became his default Army fighter.

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wedgekree
Feb 20, 2013
Is the Tojo that good where you have more than 600 of them in storage? Or are you upgrading them at any point? Or they a mainline fighter?

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets

wedgekree posted:

Is the Tojo that good where you have more than 600 of them in storage? Or are you upgrading them at any point? Or they a mainline fighter?

IIRC I overproduced at some point, and now just can't upgrade to many more units due to lack of supplies, or I've upgraded the Tojo's to something else.

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

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Accidental destroyer of planets






Another kill for the carriers.



These guys forget their escort.



Then again, so did these guys.






Saigon is hit by multiple waves of superfortresses.






The Allies declare they have taken Luganville. I then learn that all my men have been wiped out by attrition. Starvation after years of being cut off most likely.
Shame the same rules don't apply to the Allied troops in Truk and other places.






Could this be the start of an Allied offensive? Or blind luck with two units of base troops?

wedgekree
Feb 20, 2013
Any reason you didn't try and reinforce or evacuate Luganville? Or at least try and get some supply runs into it?

DarkParchment
Sep 23, 2016

A new power is rising! Its victory is at hand! This night, the land will be stained with the blood of Rohan!

Grey Hunter posted:

IIRC I overproduced at some point, and now just can't upgrade to many more units due to lack of supplies, or I've upgraded the Tojo's to something else.

To be fair, Tojos really ARE good planes. Not the best available to the IJA of course, but still much better than, say, the Oscars which are pretty worthless except for the very last versions.

Even if they aren't really made for fighting late-game Allied planes, Tojos are still reliable and not to be underestimated.

OpenlyEvilJello
Dec 28, 2009

2 February 1945

USS Besugo torpedoes Japanese escort No. 144 near Kuantan, Malaya.

CannonFodder
Jan 26, 2001

Passion’s Wrench

DarkParchment posted:

To be fair, Tojos really ARE good planes. Not the best available to the IJA of course, but still much better than, say, the Oscars which are pretty worthless except for the very last versions.

Even if they aren't really made for fighting late-game Allied planes, Tojos are still reliable and not to be underestimated.
When the allied bombers make a visit to Rabaul they are greeted with a dense cloud of Tojos and the end result is a few downed bombers and no damage to Rabaul, so evidently it works. Certain quality in quantity and all that.

And at this point those pilots are seasoned vets which is amazing for 1945 Japan.

CannonFodder fucked around with this message at 13:29 on Feb 3, 2019

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

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Accidental destroyer of planets






I think these are ground based.






That was a dull day with the normal bombardment of empty bases.

Mans
Sep 14, 2011

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
The support staff just started making hot food and blowing the air into the Japanese's trenches and an entire starving garrison surrendered.

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

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Accidental destroyer of planets






Night strikes are their most effective weapon at the moment.






On a normal day I skip through about 20 bombing runs like this. There is nothing there but a few troops and empty infrastructure.






The superforts continue to visit Hong Kong.






Our Flak gunners get lucky.



Twice!






Another day of random base bombing,but I got a few hits in!

Log082
Nov 8, 2008


Do flak gunners gain experience/accuracy? Because if so...

wedgekree
Feb 20, 2013
What type of flak guns can hit B-29's? Or are they flying low?

koolkevz666
Aug 22, 2015

wedgekree posted:

What type of flak guns can hit B-29's? Or are they flying low?

At 23,000 ft guns such as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_88_75_mm_AA_gun and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_99_88_mm_AA_gun could hit them. No idea if 23,000 feet is low for a superfortress.

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer
It is. They want to be up around 30. The whole point of them was to be up where the flak and fighters can barely reach.

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost
They dropped them down quite low during bombing runs because even with late-war bombsights their accuracy at 30,000 feet was dogshit.

MA-Horus
Dec 3, 2006

I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of how awesome I am.

My boy Curtis also figured out there was almost zero low altitude AA in Japanese cities.

zetamind2000
Nov 6, 2007

I'm an alien.

In this timeline the Japanese must have recovered proximity fuzed AA shells from the many shipwrecks outside Rabaul and reverse-engineered them, if the effectiveness of Grey's AA is anything to go by

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

Only the army bothered with salvaging since it seems that naval AA is not quite as murderous as the land forces'. :v:

zetamind2000
Nov 6, 2007

I'm an alien.

They don't need it when the invincible Zero still rules the skies

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

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Accidental destroyer of planets






Well, I was not expecting that to happen.






I wonder where their next target it?






These guys are doing their best.






Right, I'm sending some supplies south, backed by all my carriers! Lets see if we can catch a few unwary troop ships down there!

Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008

Outnumbered over 10:1 and still got a kill.

Ardeem
Sep 16, 2010

There is no problem that cannot be solved through sufficient application of lasers and friendship.

Ron Jeremy posted:

Outnumbered over 10:1 and still got a kill.

Target rich environment.

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets






The Sailfish really goes to town.






I sally the raiders, and bag a small troop convoy.



Then a larger one!



I hit the Jackpot of poorly defended ships here!



The carriers provide some air support.



This costs me some planes of course.



So many waves. These are normally uncontested.



Oh, they did have support. For all the good it did them.






Well, that was a day! 251 points gained on the Allies.



Some nice kills here.

DarkParchment
Sep 23, 2016

A new power is rising! Its victory is at hand! This night, the land will be stained with the blood of Rohan!
Poorly defended ships you say, Grey? Heh, two DEs are much better than what I've seen in my game, when they crammed about 6000 men, with vehicules and equipment, on a few APs, sailed towards one of my bases...escorted by a single Sub-chaser.

How do I know about them? Well seems like they forgot about all the planes based there, who promptly sunk them, just like the past 3 amphibious taskforces.

barman
Jan 29, 2013
Nice one grey....

Any plans for Rota, before a B29 called Enola Gay lands there ?

Flattening the airfield with some ca,s for some days (under aircover) could be beneficial..

McNally
Sep 13, 2007

Ask me about Proposition 305


Do you like muskets?
Watch out for capital ships. AI was probably using a troop convoy as ablative armor to run your task force out of ammo.

Again.

wiegieman
Apr 22, 2010

Royalty is a continuous cutting motion


Just putting a division on the bottom, nothing to see here. You're going to have long enough reequip with A7Ms at this rate.

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

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Accidental destroyer of planets
Yeah, I think the next interesting thing we'll see is the nukes and Soviets.

That reminds me, I need to stack the front lines in Manchuria.

Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008

How does your current air force stack up against what the soviets will throw at you? Will the Soviets perform strategic bombing of the home islands from China?

saintonan
Dec 7, 2009

Fields of glory shine eternal

The Americans are currently asking the Soviets to load up a few armored divisions and land them at Rabaul.

CannonFodder
Jan 26, 2001

Passion’s Wrench

saintonan posted:

The Americans are currently asking the Soviets to load up a few armored divisions and land them at Rabaul.

And the Soviets are drawing up invasion plans that head for Beijing and the Korean peninsula. If their tanks go on boats, those boats are heading to the Home Islands.


Grey, any ETA for when the force heading to India will start meeting heavy resistance?

Lord Koth
Jan 8, 2012

Ron Jeremy posted:

How does your current air force stack up against what the soviets will throw at you? Will the Soviets perform strategic bombing of the home islands from China?

In practical terms, the Soviet air forces are almost completely irrelevant. In terms of bombers the only heavy bombers the Soviets have are pre-war designs, and in terms of fighters none of them have much range. Soviet fighters also tend towards very few guns, which is something of a disadvantage against lightly armored but highly maneuverable fighters such as the Japanese used - something like a late-model Yak-9 only mounted three guns, as opposed to US fighters which tended to mount four to six. Basically, nothing in their war situation necessitated the development of long-range fighters or bombers, so they didn't get developed.

Japanese ground forces in Manchuria and China get crushed by tank divisions, but the Soviets have basically no impact on anything else other than islands right off the coast.

Mans
Sep 14, 2011

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
So basically Grey is safe on the Japanese Home Islands and only repeated Atomic showers will make him lose?

terrenblade
Oct 29, 2012
And every nuke after the second drives his score up.

Moon Slayer
Jun 19, 2007

How long ago was that force dispatched to India, anyway?

Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008

Moon Slayer posted:

How long ago was that force dispatched to India, anyway?

It’s taking the long road trough India, into Persia, and up into the Soviet Union to catch those tank divisions from behind. They’ll never see it coming!

Reuben Sandwich
Jan 27, 2007

It was put to a vote of whether to march to India or practice bayoneting tanks in Manchukuo.

Ron Jeremy posted:

It’s taking the long road trough India, into Persia, and up into the Soviet Union to catch those tank divisions from behind. They’ll never see it coming!
WitP: The Way Back Edition

wedgekree
Feb 20, 2013
So the Allies lost ~ 5000 men, 4 or so DE escorts..

Why are so many of the vehicles/squads disabled? Does that mean they can swim to shore or something?

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goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer
Some of them are on a different boat, in a different convoy, to a different island, because the AI does not understand.

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