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CommissarMega
Nov 18, 2008

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Snipee
Mar 27, 2010

QuoProQuid posted:

[*]Francia: If Francia's goal is to unify Europe by restoring the Carolingian Empire, then clearly the Commandant needs to conquer Rome. Papal coronation optional.

[*]People's Republic of Ibriz: The combination of a decade-long occupation, forced partition, and communist revolution has probably been rough on Ibriz's finances and military capacity. Luckily, there are some relatively defenseless capitalist dogs hiding out in the Caribbean that it can test its military power on before moving north. The obvious question is whether New England would allow aggression in its backyard.

[*]Sardinia: Not really sure what to do here but, iirc, the island had a lot going on in terms of cultural and religious diversity at the start of Victoria II and I think it would be cool to have some recognition of that. [/list]

I’m in favor of these ideas.

I haven’t thought of anything yet, but I would love to see some things happening with Egypt, Vali, and the Middle East in general. Obviously, there could be interesting event chains pushing the Great Powers to intervene and possibly start a military conflict there to secure oil resources, but we could also emphasize the existing religious/ethnic divisions in the region. We don’t need to involve the global juggernauts in order to make things exciting.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe
The only thing I want is for the Iberian Union to get a national focus that can be taken if it conquers all of the Moroccan land in the Maghreb called "gently caress Morocco" that just balkanizes the gently caress out of them.

hashashash
Nov 2, 2016

Cure for cancer discovered!
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QuoProQuid posted:

i have no idea how ho14 events work, but here's some suggestions based on the state of the world:
  • Russia: Given its truly expansive overseas territories, I think there's a lot of potential fun to be wrung out of Russia. One obvious possibility entails Constantinople, a weird mishmash of different cultures of traditions that has been traded between various powers. If Francia wanted to recruit the Anatolian Republic, fascist Greece, or, God forbid, the Balkan Federation as a partner/distraction, it could promise to support their claims to the territory in any post-war settlement. You could also have Francia and the other aforementioned powers try to exploit local anti-Russian sentiment and try to stir up separatist movements, as I imagine there are no shortage of those. To a lesser extent, a similar dynamic could work for the Gulf of Aden and Suez if Francia wanted to get Egypt on its side. Per your update, both Russia and Francia have been playing for Egypt's support;

  • Francia: If Francia's goal is to unify Europe by restoring the Carolingian Empire, then clearly the Commandant needs to conquer Rome. Papal coronation optional.

  • People's Republic of Ibriz: The combination of a decade-long occupation, forced partition, and communist revolution has probably been rough on Ibriz's finances and military capacity. Luckily, there are some relatively defenseless capitalist dogs hiding out in the Caribbean that it can test its military power on before moving north. The obvious question is whether New England would allow aggression in its backyard.

  • Sardinia: Not really sure what to do here but, iirc, the island had a lot going on in terms of cultural and religious diversity at the start of Victoria II and I think it would be cool to have some recognition of that.

Definitely gonna add a bunch of these. But yeah, Francia are going to try and build a widespread alliance of fascists, and Egypt will be at the top of their list, especially since they're more likely to lean towards Francia at this point (being effectively surrounded by Morocco and Russia), all whilst Egypt are tackling the inevitable Middle Eastern crises.

Both Ibriz's top priority is going to be reunification, but once that war is over, they're gonna have the chance to test their mettle against smaller powers - starting with Panama, which I imagine the New English won't be too happy about.

Regarding the whole pope thing, I've got something small planned for that, but I like the idea of the Commandant publicly making the pope legitimise his regime, so I'll probably add a flavour event for that.

As for Sardinia, yeah I agree, I'll try and think something up (maybe an event where we force Provence to cede the island in return for a guarantee or something).

hashashash
Nov 2, 2016

Cure for cancer discovered!
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Snipee posted:

I’m in favor of these ideas.

I haven’t thought of anything yet, but I would love to see some things happening with Egypt, Vali, and the Middle East in general. Obviously, there could be interesting event chains pushing the Great Powers to intervene and possibly start a military conflict there to secure oil resources, but we could also emphasize the existing religious/ethnic divisions in the region. We don’t need to involve the global juggernauts in order to make things exciting.

Yeah I've done something similar, I won't spoil it but I will say that the Vali are very ambitious, so they're gonna have designs on neighbouring powers for sure.

Cerebral Bore posted:

The only thing I want is for the Iberian Union to get a national focus that can be taken if it conquers all of the Moroccan land in the Maghreb called "gently caress Morocco" that just balkanizes the gently caress out of them.

We'll have a mutually-exclusive pathway where we can possibly try to make peace with Morocco, but if the thread decides against that then we'll 100% end up at war eventually, and this time there won't be any half-measures or white peaces, so I wouldn't worry about that.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe

Hashim posted:

We'll have a mutually-exclusive pathway where we can possibly try to make peace with Morocco, but if the thread decides against that then we'll 100% end up at war eventually, and this time there won't be any half-measures or white peaces, so I wouldn't worry about that.

"If", he says.

Lynneth
Sep 13, 2011
I'd like to be a General for Germany, socialist-leaning. Lysander Weuste.

Freudian
Mar 23, 2011

I'd like to be a Frankish officer - Gabriel-Jacques de Salignac de La Motte.

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER

sign me up for some role either in iberia or the balkans

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER

calling it: we're gonna end up at war with francia, russia and morocco simultaneously. again

Talas
Aug 27, 2005

A descendant of Al-Thalassi would be a nice admiral or captain in our rising armada.

QuoProQuid
Jan 12, 2012

Tr*ckin' and F*ckin' all the way to tha
T O P

V. Illych L. posted:

calling it: we're gonna end up at war with francia, russia and morocco simultaneously. again

maybe give the iberian union an early-game decision of moving their capital from the frontlines to somewhere a little more defensible (and less associated with monarchy and the fascists)?

habeasdorkus
Nov 3, 2013

Royalty is a continuous shitposting motion.

QuoProQuid posted:

maybe give the iberian union an early-game decision of moving their capital from the frontlines to somewhere a little more defensible (and less associated with monarchy and the fascists)?

Piffle and bosh. If we move from Qadis, how will we have our own rendition of Lubyanka?

orangelex44
Oct 11, 2012

Definition of orange:

Any of a group of colors that are between red and yellow in hue. Middle English, from Anglo-French, from Old Occitan, from Arabic, from Persian, from Sanskrit.

Definition of lex:

Law. Latin.
Assuming the Franks are the Nazis of this setting, and will kick off the big one, they should have a similar buildup. It won't quite map out that well since they technically won, I suppose, but none of the losers are really in a similar position (unless Germany goes communist and aggressively builds itself back up, or maybe even if they go counter-fascist against the Franks?). Probably some combination of (mostly peacefully) annexing the fascist Provence, threatening the Scots for annexation, then attacking the Celts as the Poland analogue?

Benin needs all the blitzkreig tech boosts. And something diplomatic to help out with the fact that they're going to be locked into a two-front war a million miles away from their allies. None of which will have a good enough navy to get past Morocco.

Honesty, I want to see what Russia's tree looks like. They'll have to make some tough decisions to counter the Fascists. Scandinavia is an immediate threat even if the German warzone blocks off the French, and their overseas territories are looking very vulnerable. Can they afford to piss off their most likely allies in the communists by playing hardball with the Balkan Fed? Albionoria and the French territories can shut down their Pacific access even if they aren't a threat to the heartland.

AJ_Impy
Jun 17, 2007

SWORD OF SMATTAS. CAN YOU NOT HEAR A WORLD CRY OUT FOR JUSTICE? WHEN WILL YOU DELIVER IT?
Yam Slacker
Al-rusim khataan taht-Impy or one of his line promoting unity and Andalusi values.

WereVolvo
Jan 12, 2011
"Fun" is not a design goal.
This continuing clusterfuck of an LP is by far the best megacampaign thread I've read, surpassing even the Battlepope thread. Hats off to Hashim and your special brand of madness/masochism needed to power through all those years of goon self-sabotage and jackassery while still managing to write a hellishly entertaining yarn. Sign me up for whatever role if there's room.

Pacho
Jun 9, 2010
Maybe the Ibrizi Civil War should be handled like the German Civil War? to give Gharbian countries something to meddle in before the big global showdown

hashashash
Nov 2, 2016

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Pacho posted:

Maybe the Ibrizi Civil War should be handled like the German Civil War? to give Gharbian countries something to meddle in before the big global showdown

Yep, that's how I'm treating it. The Ibrizi and German civil wars will both erupt within the first six months, so they'll be the most important part of the early game, since they'll basically determine just how strong the communist bloc will be at the outset of the war, so I imagine we'll be investing heavily in both (but then again, so will the other Great Powers).

New England won't care who emerges victorious though, they want to take back North Ibriz and all its resources. The Berber Union is no longer in isolation though, so they'll probably pick a side and back it up against the inevitable English invasion.

hashashash fucked around with this message at 20:57 on Feb 6, 2019

hashashash
Nov 2, 2016

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orangelex44 posted:

Assuming the Franks are the Nazis of this setting, and will kick off the big one, they should have a similar buildup. It won't quite map out that well since they technically won, I suppose, but none of the losers are really in a similar position (unless Germany goes communist and aggressively builds itself back up, or maybe even if they go counter-fascist against the Franks?). Probably some combination of (mostly peacefully) annexing the fascist Provence, threatening the Scots for annexation, then attacking the Celts as the Poland analogue?

Benin needs all the blitzkreig tech boosts. And something diplomatic to help out with the fact that they're going to be locked into a two-front war a million miles away from their allies. None of which will have a good enough navy to get past Morocco.

Honesty, I want to see what Russia's tree looks like. They'll have to make some tough decisions to counter the Fascists. Scandinavia is an immediate threat even if the German warzone blocks off the French, and their overseas territories are looking very vulnerable. Can they afford to piss off their most likely allies in the communists by playing hardball with the Balkan Fed? Albionoria and the French territories can shut down their Pacific access even if they aren't a threat to the heartland.

Already done, Francia have focuses to annex a couple smaller countries quite early on, progressively raising world tension with every act of aggression. We'll might have the option to intervene if we so choose, like Provence requesting our aid if they suffer an invasion, and the same goes for a few other great powers.

Still not sure about Benin, they'll definitely be rapidly expanding their war arsenal, but they probably wouldn't be too willing to join forces with us again. The most likely option would be them teaming up with Francia, I feel like, especially if Egypt end up joining their faction, since that would basically surround Morocco in Africa. But we'll see.

Russia's primary focus early-game will be installing liberal regimes in neighbouring powers, but that could obviously lead to war with Francia (like if they try to invade Scandinavia, which has a fascist regime inclined towards Paris). They'll also have the option to join the League of Monarchies, but the chances won't be very high, unless they're already at war and have no real allies.

Red John
Jul 12, 2018
I, too, apply to be a part of the vanguard as a general in the people’s union.

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy
Can I be a New England General?

hashashash
Nov 2, 2016

Cure for cancer discovered!
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Crowsbeak posted:

Can I be a New England General?

Sure, I'll be adding everyone who wants in, just let me know what you wanna be called.

oystertoadfish
Jun 17, 2003

Hashim posted:

Sure, I'll be adding everyone who wants in, just let me know what you wanna be called.

i haven't joined in yet i dont think, but oyster toad fish in google translate turns into 'asmak almahari (أسماك المحار) - however you like to transliterate our fake Arabic 'names', Asmak Al-Mahari, whatever, might work. i wonder if the initial apostrophe would work in-game?

no idea what arabic people would actually call Opsanus tau, which is actually an oyster toadfish to be specific, but no point in worrying about it

oh yeah, i've been saying that Berber Rio de Janeiro would be the place to go, and now they're gearing up for some real poo poo so could you put me in Gharbia in a research position - perhaps one involving recently discovered uses for uranium (idk if you want to give away your approach to that aspect of the game, but i bet they'll be contenders in that race) - or if that's not possible, a general?

also, how does HOI simulate chemical warfare? it wasn't a big feature of wwii but reading about the sino-japanese conflict it seems like the japanese busted them out from time to time, and monsieur adolphe hitlere in paris may not have gotten gassed in person last war

oystertoadfish fucked around with this message at 00:50 on Feb 7, 2019

Technowolf
Nov 4, 2009




Hashim posted:

Sure, I'll be adding everyone who wants in, just let me know what you wanna be called.

Tiqnu al-Dhib stands ready to defend the revolution!

wiegieman
Apr 22, 2010

Royalty is a continuous cutting motion


oystertoadfish posted:

also, how does HOI simulate chemical warfare? it wasn't a big feature of wwii but reading about the sino-japanese conflict it seems like the japanese busted them out from time to time, and monsieur adolphe hitlere in paris may not have gotten gassed in person last war

It doesn't, but if it did it would probably be as a soft attack bonus.

GSD
May 10, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo
Admiral Ghalib Sabah al-Daniyyah reporting for service in the Ibrizian People's Navy.

Captain Rehab
Jul 8, 2005

I just read through this LP while off sick from work and... woah, gently caress.

Put me down for being some guy somewhere.

Reza Habib would be a good name, I reckon.

Snipee
Mar 27, 2010
I am slightly disappointed that Japan remains the only Great Power in Asia. Since all of the other Great Powers are likely going to be distracted elsewhere, they have the absolute best position to decide their own fate. Neither China nor Mongolia ended up being viable rivals.

Perhaps the Japanese could be given potential events to opportunistically declare war to snatch colonies from the French/Moroccans if one of them loses too many ships or otherwise appear vulnerable? India and SE Asia are both prime targets. I mostly just want to see them involved in the next world war.

Fizzil
Aug 24, 2005

There are five fucks at the edge of a cliff...



oystertoadfish posted:

i haven't joined in yet i dont think, but oyster toad fish in google translate turns into 'asmak almahari (أسماك المحار) - however you like to transliterate our fake Arabic 'names', Asmak Al-Mahari, whatever, might work. i wonder if the initial apostrophe would work in-game?

no idea what arabic people would actually call Opsanus tau, which is actually an oyster toadfish to be specific, but no point in worrying about it

oh yeah, i've been saying that Berber Rio de Janeiro would be the place to go, and now they're gearing up for some real poo poo so could you put me in Gharbia in a research position - perhaps one involving recently discovered uses for uranium (idk if you want to give away your approach to that aspect of the game, but i bet they'll be contenders in that race) - or if that's not possible, a general?

also, how does HOI simulate chemical warfare? it wasn't a big feature of wwii but reading about the sino-japanese conflict it seems like the japanese busted them out from time to time, and monsieur adolphe hitlere in paris may not have gotten gassed in person last war

I can help with arabic names, though if things exist in arabic for it, toadfish doesnt atm but google translate is pretty decent but i can correct it since it gave you the plural of the word. it should be سمك المحار (samak al mahar) for oyster toadfish.

Fizzil fucked around with this message at 07:35 on Feb 7, 2019

oystertoadfish
Jun 17, 2003

Fizzil posted:

I can help with arabic names, though if things exist in arabic for it, toadfish doesnt atm but google translate is pretty decent but i can correct it since it gave you the plural of the word. it should be سمك المحار (samak al mahar) for oyster toadfish.

holy poo poo thanks! i really value getting things right as long as it costs me zero (0) effort so i really appreciate this. samak al mahar. awesome

i guess the resplendent toadfish doesn't inhabit arabic-speaking parts of the world. your loss really

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmEPGnsJngI

edit: here's some dude actually catching, cleaning, and eating me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vygXrrAAIH4

oystertoadfish fucked around with this message at 07:52 on Feb 7, 2019

frankenfreak
Feb 16, 2007

I SCORED 85% ON A QUIZ ABOUT MONDAY NIGHT RAW AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS LOUSY TEXT

#bastionboogerbrigade
Franz von Frick meldet sich zum Dienst, mein Herr!

MinistryofLard
Mar 22, 2013


Goblin babies did nothing wrong.


Sign me up as Iberian Minister Shahm Alkhinzir which Google reliably tells me is Arabic for lard.

Danny Glands
Jan 26, 2013

Possible thermal failure (CPU on fire?)
Make me a member of the New England Government, but call me Daniel Glands.

hashashash
Nov 2, 2016

Cure for cancer discovered!
Court physicians hate him!

Snipee posted:

I am slightly disappointed that Japan remains the only Great Power in Asia. Since all of the other Great Powers are likely going to be distracted elsewhere, they have the absolute best position to decide their own fate. Neither China nor Mongolia ended up being viable rivals.

Perhaps the Japanese could be given potential events to opportunistically declare war to snatch colonies from the French/Moroccans if one of them loses too many ships or otherwise appear vulnerable? India and SE Asia are both prime targets. I mostly just want to see them involved in the next world war.

Japan will have a mini-crisis to deal with early on, stemming from the years of poor government under their dictator and the harsh terms of the Treaty of Edo, when they were forced to dismantle their empire. So I'm hoping that will give some time for one or two challengers to arise on the mainland.

Once they get over that hill though, they can start expanding again, and yes they've got focuses to eventually launch invasions into Frankish Indochina and Moroccan Usturaliya. A couple great powers can even try forming alliances with them or China, so there's a very good chance they'll end up in the world war regardless.

oystertoadfish posted:

oh yeah, i've been saying that Berber Rio de Janeiro would be the place to go, and now they're gearing up for some real poo poo so could you put me in Gharbia in a research position - perhaps one involving recently discovered uses for uranium (idk if you want to give away your approach to that aspect of the game, but i bet they'll be contenders in that race) - or if that's not possible, a general?

also, how does HOI simulate chemical warfare? it wasn't a big feature of wwii but reading about the sino-japanese conflict it seems like the japanese busted them out from time to time, and monsieur adolphe hitlere in paris may not have gotten gassed in person last war

All the Great Powers have a 'secret weapons' branch of their focus tree giving them some headway into nuclear technology, so sure, I can put you down as a nuclear scientist for the Berber Union.

Slaan
Mar 16, 2009



ASHERAH DEMANDS I FEAST, I VOTE FOR A FEAST OF FLESH

Slaan posted:

I'll be an Andalusi expat in any relevant anti-Commie/Morrocco/Andalus nation. We must restore the true monarchs of Al Andalus and also destroy Morrocco!

You wanted named suggestions to go with it, so Ill be Habib al-Salaan

Zikan
Feb 29, 2004

Can’t wait for the fascists to win all of the civil wars and Iberia to end up at war with them all at once along with the bourgeois democracies and the leftist splitters in the Balkans.

Morrow
Oct 31, 2010

Zikan posted:

Can’t wait for the fascists to win all of the civil wars and Iberia to end up at war with them all at once along with the bourgeois democracies and the leftist splitters in the Balkans.

No we will ally with the fascists against the liberals and leftists.

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy
I'll be Peter Irving

habeasdorkus
Nov 3, 2013

Royalty is a continuous shitposting motion.

Hashim posted:

Still not sure about Benin, they'll definitely be rapidly expanding their war arsenal, but they probably wouldn't be too willing to join forces with us again. The most likely option would be them teaming up with Francia, I feel like, especially if Egypt end up joining their faction, since that would basically surround Morocco in Africa. But we'll see.

I dunno, they seemed like they had a pretty stable constitutional govn't before getting whacked about in the great war. It would be a little odd to sign on with the UNFflies without themselves being turned to the hard right. Especially if there's a racial superiority aspect to the fascists in France. And double especially if Morocco sides with France because hey they're both totalitarian states and what's really the difference except for the title of the dude at the top?

Likewise, the socialist government under the constitutional monarchy of Russia probably doesn't love our glorious communist dictatorship and we think they're sellouts who are just as bad as the bourgeoisie, but we'd have a lot more in common with them than either of us would with the French and would probably support the same side in the German civil war. It at least seems more likely than social democratic Russia signing on with absolute monarchists.

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Soup du Jour
Sep 8, 2011

I always knew I'd die with a headache.

While I kinda doubt any members of the Al-Yawm family made it through the revolution in Iberia, there’s probably some out in Ibriz still considering my votes and goals back in EU4. So Hasa Al-Yawm for either Ibrizi state would be cool!

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